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Charismatic Bible Studies - 1 Peter 3:1-7

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Operating In The Prophetic, While Still Honoring God's Line Of Authority

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Joel prophesied that when the army God arose in the end-times, both men and woman would prophesy, for as He stated,"Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy... and upon My menservants and maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days." This means both will be recruited as soldiers in the end-time army of God, but should they still take literally the command to maintain the Biblical line of authority in the marriage, or should that now be regarded as an outdated product of ancient culture? If they are still applicable, what is the role of the Christian wife in the spiritual war? I believe God calls a Christian wife to be a prophetic voice to her husband, through visions, dreams and direct utterance, and as we shall see I believe this is supported by scripture.

The apostle Peter's teachings in our next passage apply today in my opinion, and for one simple reason: The Christian marriage is intended to reflect the relationship between Christ and His bride, the church.

1 Wives, likewise, be submissive to your own husbands, that even if some do not obey the word, they, without a word, may be won by the conduct of their wives, 2 when they observe your chaste conduct accompanied by fear. 3 Do not let your adornment be merely outward — arranging the hair, wearing gold, or putting on fine apparel — 4 rather let it be the hidden woman of the heart, with the incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God. 5 For in this manner, in former times, the holy women who trusted in God also adorned themselves, being submissive to their own husbands, 6 as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord, whose daughters you are if you do good and are not afraid with any terror. 7 Husbands, likewise, dwell with them with understanding, giving honor to the wife, as to the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered. (1 Peter 3:1-7)

A wife calling her husband "Lord" is almost abhorrent to 21st century ears. It seems so far removed from the way we conduct ourselves today that this passage simply gets discarded for seeming abusive on its face. But is it? If God created the husband and wife relationship to reflect our relationship with Jesus Christ, does the church still honor Him as Lord today? Do we still submit to Him as Lord in our daily lives? Maybe most relevant, do we still allow Him to teach us the things of God?

Peter taught that husbands were to "dwell with them with understanding," meaning they were to spend time teaching their wives everything God was showing them (see Ephesians 5:24-27), that both might arrive at full knowledge and full sanctification, and their prayers ascend to God in unity and love as if praying as one. But there was clearly a line of authority. The husband reflected Christ, so his wife was not to usurp authority over him during a church service by standing up and becoming his teacher. Paul added that even "the law" said wives should submit to their husbands.

11 Let a wife learn in silence with all submission. 12 But I do not permit a wife to teach nor usurp authority over her husband, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but his wife being deceived fell into transgression. 15 Nevertheless she will be saved in childbearing if they continue in faith, love and holiness, with self-control. (1 Timothy 2:11-15)

34 Let your wives keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak, but are to be submissive, even as the law also says. 35 And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church. (1 Corinthians 14:34-35)


What law was Paul referring to here? He was likely referring to the judgement God pronounced in Genesis 3:

13 And the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?” The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.” 14 So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this... 15 I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed. He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel.” 16 To the woman He said, “I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception. In pain you shall bring forth children. Your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you.” (Genesis 3:13-16)

Women still experience pain during childbirth, so there seems little to suggest that a husband's headship over the wife in marriage has been done away with, especially given that Paul reiterated Genesis as the justification for why husbands should continue leading in the marriage. But what then was the role of the Christian wife? Simply to listen and submit, or to contribute supernaturally? Eve was Adam's helpmate, so how were Christian wives to be helpmates to their husbands in fulfilling the work of Christ, and the calling of God upon their marriages?


The Wife As A Prophetess

A husband and wife can be compared to two soldiers in the field. One is in charge by virtue of rank, but prophecy is like receiving communiques from headquarters, and though coming through the wife constitute orders they will act upon as a unit. In spiritual terms, should they be in combat in the field where decisions have to be made, he is the officer in charge and God's will is he be able to lead so they can act on his authority. But they are both to be receiving instructions from higher up, so as to know the Lord's command in any given situation. And in receiving such instruction, the wife was obviously intended function in it with him, given that wives were indeed prophesying during services during New Testament times, as well as in the home.

1 Now I praise you, brethren, that you remember me in all things and keep the traditions just as I delivered them to you. 3 But I want you to know that the head of every husband is Christ, the head of the wife is the husband, and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every husband praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonors his head. 5 But every wife who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, for that is one and the same as if her head were shaved. (1 Corinthians 11:1-5)

The head covering Paul spoke of here served as a public declaration that she was submitted to her husband's authority in the marriage. Yet while she was not permitted to usurp authority over her husband in church, she WAS nevertheless permitted to prophesy both to and over him, as well as over other men in the congregation. She was to keep silent and ask her husband at home regarding Christian teaching, but during church she could prophesy as the Spirit alone led her.

29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others judge. 30 But if anything is revealed to another who sits by, let the first keep silent. 31 For you can all prophesy one by one, that all may learn and all may be encouraged. 32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33 For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints. 34 Let your wives keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak, but are to be submissive, as the law also says. 35 And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church. (1 Corinthians 14:29-35)

Not only could wives prophesy in church, but Paul went on to describe prophecy as one of the greater gifts (1 Corinthians 14:1); one that should be prayed for earnestly (1 Corinthians 12:31). And there were clearly women prophetesses in the early church, for they are mentioned several times. One was Anna, who prophesied to men and women alike that the Christ child had finally come. She was led by the Holy Spirit to speak about Jesus “to all who were looking for the redemption of Jerusalem” (Luke 2:38). The masculine gender of the signifiers that described her intended audience suggest that Anna prophesied to both men and women.
 
The Power Inherent In A Wife

What happens when a Christian wife prophesies over her husband? Like soldiers in the field, prophetic dreams and other forms of utterance protect him from harm, for starters. Pilate's wife was an unsaved woman, and she nevertheless received a dream which had he listened might have protected him from making a terrible mistake, and crucifying the Lord Jesus Christ, the eternal Son of God.

11 Now Jesus stood before the governor. And the governor asked Him, saying, “Are You the King of the Jews?” Jesus said to him, “It is as you say.” 12 And while He was being accused by the chief priests and elders, He answered nothing. 13 Then Pilate said to Him, “Do You not hear how many things they testify against You?” 14 But He answered him not one word, so that the governor marveled greatly... 19 and while [Pilate] was sitting on the judgment seat, his wife sent to him, saying, “Have nothing to do with that just Man, for I have suffered many things today in a dream because of Him.” 20 But the chief priests and elders persuaded the multitudes that they should ask for Barabbas and destroy Jesus. (Acts 27:11-14, 19-20)

It is also clear that the Lord could give directives through both woman and wives when prophesying by the Spirit of God, and even command the leaders of Israel through them. As a result were sometimes on the front lines leading Israel into war, and in celebration of God's victories over their enemies.

20 Then Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took the timbrel in her hand; and all the women went out after her with timbrels and with dances. 21 And Miriam answered them, “Sing to the Lord, for He has triumphed gloriously! The horse and its rider He has thrown into the sea!” (Exodus 15:20-21)

Jewish tradition holds that Miriam played no mere insignificant role in helping lead Israel out of Egypt. As one source on the Madras states:

Although, unlike her brothers, she did not have any formal position, the Rabbis assert that she contributed greatly to the redemption of Israel from Egypt. She is mentioned as the one who prophesied the birth of Moses and his being the deliverer who would redeem Israel from the Egyptians, a task in which she would also assist him. In addition, Miriam acted as a leader during the wanderings in the wilderness; by her merit the Israelites were accompanied on their journeys by the well that bears her name: “Miriam’s Well.” (Miriam: Midrash and Aggadah, Jewish Women's Archive).

Through prophecy, women could also accurately act as judges, discern right judgment by knowing hidden matters of the heart, and likewise remind Israel's leaders of what the Lord had commanded them. In Deborah's case she could hear from God so accurately that Barak would not go to war without her.

4 Now Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, was judging Israel at that time. 5 And she would sit under the palm tree of Deborah between Ramah and Bethel in the mountains of Ephraim. And the children of Israel came up to her for judgment. 6 Then she sent and called for Barak the son of Abinoam from Kedesh in Naphtali, and said to him, “Has not the Lord God of Israel commanded, ‘Go and deploy troops at Mount Tabor. Take with you ten thousand men of the sons of Naphtali and of the sons of Zebulun; 7 and against you I will deploy Sisera, the commander of Jabin’s army, with his chariots and his multitude at the River Kishon, and I will deliver him into your hand’?” 8 And Barak said to her, “If you will go with me, then I will go. But if you will not go with me, I will not go!” (Judges 4:4-8)

Other Israelite leaders came to Huldah as well, asking for a clear word from the Lord.

14 So Hilkiah the priest, Ahikam, Achbor, Shaphan, and Asaiah went to Huldah the prophetess, the wife of Shallum the son of Tikvah, the son of Harhas, keeper of the wardrobe. (She dwelt in Jerusalem in the Second Quarter.) And they spoke with her. 15 Then she said to them, “Thus says the Lord God of Israel, ‘Tell the man who sent you to Me, 16 “Thus says the Lord: ‘Behold, I will bring calamity on this place and on its inhabitants—all the words of the book which the king of Judah has read— 17 because they have forsaken Me and burned incense to other gods, that they might provoke Me to anger with all the works of their hands. Therefore My wrath shall be aroused against this place and shall not be quenched.’”’ 18 But as for the king of Judah, who sent you to inquire of the Lord, in this manner you shall speak to him, ‘Thus says the Lord God of Israel: “Concerning the words which you have heard— 19 because your heart was tender, and you humbled yourself before the Lord when you heard what I spoke against this place and against its inhabitants, that they would become a desolation and a curse, and you tore your clothes and wept before Me, I also have heard you,” says the Lord. 20 “Surely, therefore, I will gather you to your fathers, and you shall be gathered to your grave in peace; and your eyes shall not see all the calamity which I will bring on this place.”’” So they brought back word to the king. (2 Kings 22:14-20)

They also sometimes served as wives of male prophets, greatly strengthening their husband's prophetic gift. Isaiah and his wife, whom he referred to simply as "the prophetess," raised no less than two sons according to scripture, and they were undoubtably raised up in how to operate in the prophetic as a result.

Moreover the Lord said to me, “Take a large scroll, and write on it with a man’s pen concerning Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz... Then I went in (i.e. made love) to the prophetess, and she conceived and gave birth to a son. And the Lord said to me, ‘Name him Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz. (destruction is imminent)’” (Isaiah 8:1, 3)

These women all served as examples of what a Christian wife can and should be, and how they are especially helpful to powerful men of God and those in authority. Those who claim that they have no place of importance in the leadership of Christianity are mistaken. Their role is usually a supporting one, but they are no less warriors and leaders in their own right, and true soldiers of the Lord Jesus Christ.


Questions & Applications

1. Do you think the role of the prophetess was intended to be rare or more common? Keep in mind what was promised in Joel 2:28, and what Paul said to the Corinthians, telling them that the wives were to prophesy with their heads covered, and adding, "For you may all prophesy one but one" in 1 Corinthians 14:31.

2. What is it that you believe helps develop the prophetic gifts?

3. If you are a husband and have an example, name a time when your wife spoke to you about a dream she had that protected you or guided you on the right path to take from God. If you are a wife and have an example, describe an instance when God used you to do something similar for your husband.
 
1. Do you think the role of the prophetess was intended to be rare or more common? Keep in mind what was promised in Joel 2:28, and what Paul said to the Corinthians, telling them that the wives were to prophesy with their heads covered, and adding, "For you may all prophesy one but one" in 1 Corinthians 14:31.
There is a difference between being "prophetic" and being a "prophet." Some women are "prophets," but all women can be "prophetic" in the way they serve others.
2. What is it that you believe helps develop the prophetic gifts?
1st, a true gift of prophecy comes by choice of the Holy Spirit. Pretending this gift will lead to error.

2nd, if a person is to use and develop his or her gift properly, it's important to not be like Balaam, who put his own interests ahead of God's interests. Saying what God wants to say, instead of what is popular, is essential.
3. If you are a husband and have an example, name a time when your wife spoke to you about a dream she had that protected you or guided you on the right path to take from God. If you are a wife and have an example, describe an instance when God used you to do something similar for your husband.
Like all circumstances that guide my life, my wife gets fixated on certain things that orient me in God's direction. Her interests are important, as are her concerns about God's will. Listening to counselors is wise. Listening to a wife it important not just for the marriage, but also in serving God.

God fuses the interests of 2 people in a marriage. The product will work out well if both give up some things to make the other happy. If both give up some of their interests to do what pleases God, God will enter more deeply into the family, and make it happiest of all.
 
If they are still applicable, what is the role of the Christian wife in the spiritual war?
The wife has the same calling as the husband, to be "soldiers" in God's war, as you suggest. We resist carnal impulses, apologize when we get rude, and display a loving relationship in the family and elsewhere. This "testimony" in the world is what God seeks.
The apostle Peter's teachings in our next passage apply today in my opinion, and for one simple reason: The Christian marriage is intended to reflect the relationship between Christ and His bride, the church.
Absolutely. Though both members of the marriage have different roles, in terms of bearing children, and in terms of representing Christ and the Church, both are displaying Christ in these different roles. Though the husband presents himself as 1st in leading the family, he does not pretend superiority.
A wife calling her husband "Lord" is almost abhorrent to 21st century ears.
This is why we don't use terms that would be misconstrued in our time as an expression of "superiority." The one who plants seeds may seem inferior to the one who harvests the crop, but both are actually equal. One simply goes 1st.

If we are to properly witness to our culture, repugnant though it be, we need to use terms that help it understand as best they can. We should not demand that our wives call us "lord!" ;) I think wives would do well to support their husbands even in their weaknesses, just as I think husbands would do well to run to help their wives in anything they may need.
... that both might arrive at full knowledge and full sanctification, and their prayers ascend to God in unity and love as if praying as one. But there was clearly a line of authority.
We shouldn't expect to work as a team if we don't pray together. If we're hostile to one another we shouldn't expect success or fulfillment either.
34 Let your wives keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak, but are to be submissive, even as the law also says.
I find this difficult, perhaps because it reflects something historical that I'm not familiar with. The order of early church meetings may have been formal, dominated by men, with less formal ministry following, allowing women to speak?

If women spoke with authority during the formal part, it may be an insult when a woman made demands of another woman's husband? For someone else's wife to exercise some kind of discipline or strict exhortation over another woman's husband might be insulting to that other woman?
What law was Paul referring to here? He was likely referring to the judgement God pronounced in Genesis 3:
I agree. The excessive "rule" God gave Adam over Eve seemed to be a punishment, indicating that there is a spiritual DNA imparted to women, due to Eve's capitulation to Satan's deceptions. Women can be helped by their husbands if they are aware of their weaknesses, though similar things can happen to men, just as they originally happened to Eve.
Women still experience pain during childbirth, so there seems little to suggest that a husband's headship over the wife in marriage has been done away with...
Yes, but I think that the association of women with "childbirth" is only stating the difference between men and women generally--not that women have to give birth to children to be saved! ;) I know you're not even suggesting this, but the verse can certainly sound strange.

If women carry out their role as *women,* and not merely as those given to bear children, they will be saved when they do so, single or married, in a godly way.
The Wife As A Prophetess
My wife certainly has some kind of prophetic gift. Numerous times she has noticed problems with our houses or cars when it just seemed she was "paranoid." In the end, she was proven right, and they became emergencies I had to deal with, even if I didn't want to hear it! ;)

She also has a bent towards the mystical and supernatural, as I do. We are always wanting to hear from God's prophetic word, whether to us or from others.

Thank you for dealing with a big and important subject, even though there will be those who argue every little point. I may seem to do that at times, but certainly not here. I have loads of agreement with you, brother. And your words are indeed prophetic quite often.
 
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