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charlesj
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I believe, as many do, that the Book of Revelation has been fulfilled. The beginning of the Revelation and the ending of the vision (chapter 22) start and end with a warning, that is:
In Rev 1:1 John tells his audience that this vision MUST take place shortly and at the end of the book he reminds them that it MUST take place shortly. Also, in the beginning (Rev 1:3) and at the end (Rev 22:16) he tells them that the time is NEAR! THAT WAS OVER 2000 years ago.
With this in mind, take a look at the kings during this period of time that fulfilled this prophecy.
Have you ever thought of or compared Daniel 7 with John’s writing in Revelation 13 & 17 and noticed the similarity?
Daniel 7:1-8 NIV Daniel 7:1 In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon, Daniel had a dream, and visions passed through his mind as he was lying on his bed. He wrote down the substance of his dream. 2 Daniel said: "In my vision at night I looked, and there before me were the four winds of heaven churning up the great sea. 3 Four great beasts, each different from the others, came up out of the sea. 4 "The first was like a lion, and it had the wings of an eagle. I watched until its wings were torn off and it was lifted from the ground so that it stood on two feet like a man, and the heart of a man was given to it. 5 "And there before me was a second beast, which looked like a bear. It was raised up on one of its sides, and it had three ribs in its mouth between its teeth. It was told, 'Get up and eat your fill of flesh!' 6 "After that, I looked, and there before me was another beast, one that looked like a leopard. And on its back it had four wings like those of a bird. This beast had four heads, and it was given authority to rule. 7 "After that, in my vision at night I looked, and there before me was a fourth beast-- terrifying and frightening and very powerful. It had large iron teeth; it crushed and devoured its victims and trampled underfoot whatever was left. It was different from all the former beasts, and it had ten horns. 8 "While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn, a little one, which came up among them; and three of the first horns were uprooted before it. This horn had eyes like the eyes of a man and a mouth that spoke boastfully.
Here Daniel portrays a vision with the animals, a lion, bear, and leopard. But in Revelation 13:2, it is a leopard, bear and lion. John in the Revelation, is looking “backwards†in time, while with Daniel’s vision he is looking to the future. (But, it's the same vision)
Daniel 7:24 24 The ten horns are ten kings who will come from this kingdom. After them another king will arise, different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings.
Daniel 7:24 speaks of ten horns which represents ten kings. Then another king arises (11th king) and “uproots†three of the earlier kings and the 11th king becomes the eighth.
In the Revelation, John doesn’t mention the three kings that are uprooted, he just passes over them and are completely ignored. John takes the vision from Daniel as he finds it – with three missing. But does John speak of eight heads? Yes, Revelaiton 17:11
Revelation 17:9-12 9 "This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. 10 They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for a little while. 11 The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction. 12 "The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast.
The seven heads (kings) are seven hills on which the woman sits.(Rome). Five of the kings have already fallen Augustus, Tiberius, Caligula, Claudius & Nero. One is, (Vespasian) while John is writing this book and one is to come (Domitian).
You’ll note that the persecution of which John speaks is going to come on the saints (11:7; 17:8). You also must note that John says twice (17:8,11) that the beast “is not.†That is, “he isn’t here yet†(speaking of Domitian).
So, here is what you have:
In Daniel............ In Revelation
1. Augustus............ 1. Augustus
2. Tiberius ............ 2. Tiberius
3. Caligula ............ 3. Caligula
4. Claudius ............ 4. Claudius
5. Nero..................... 5. Nero
6. Galba ............ (Kings 6,7,8 were “uprooted†and not ........................
7. Otho............. mentioned in the Book of Rev.)
8. Vitellius
9. Vespanian........... 6. Vespasian
10. Titus.............. 7. Titus
11. Domitian........... 8. Domitian
Who is the fourth beast of Daniel? Everyone agrees it is Rome and so is the beast of Revelation 13. The beast of Revelation 13 is a composite creature, made up of elements which composed Babylon, Medo-persia, and Greece.
Your servant in Messiah,
charlesj
In Rev 1:1 John tells his audience that this vision MUST take place shortly and at the end of the book he reminds them that it MUST take place shortly. Also, in the beginning (Rev 1:3) and at the end (Rev 22:16) he tells them that the time is NEAR! THAT WAS OVER 2000 years ago.
With this in mind, take a look at the kings during this period of time that fulfilled this prophecy.
Have you ever thought of or compared Daniel 7 with John’s writing in Revelation 13 & 17 and noticed the similarity?
Daniel 7:1-8 NIV Daniel 7:1 In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon, Daniel had a dream, and visions passed through his mind as he was lying on his bed. He wrote down the substance of his dream. 2 Daniel said: "In my vision at night I looked, and there before me were the four winds of heaven churning up the great sea. 3 Four great beasts, each different from the others, came up out of the sea. 4 "The first was like a lion, and it had the wings of an eagle. I watched until its wings were torn off and it was lifted from the ground so that it stood on two feet like a man, and the heart of a man was given to it. 5 "And there before me was a second beast, which looked like a bear. It was raised up on one of its sides, and it had three ribs in its mouth between its teeth. It was told, 'Get up and eat your fill of flesh!' 6 "After that, I looked, and there before me was another beast, one that looked like a leopard. And on its back it had four wings like those of a bird. This beast had four heads, and it was given authority to rule. 7 "After that, in my vision at night I looked, and there before me was a fourth beast-- terrifying and frightening and very powerful. It had large iron teeth; it crushed and devoured its victims and trampled underfoot whatever was left. It was different from all the former beasts, and it had ten horns. 8 "While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn, a little one, which came up among them; and three of the first horns were uprooted before it. This horn had eyes like the eyes of a man and a mouth that spoke boastfully.
Here Daniel portrays a vision with the animals, a lion, bear, and leopard. But in Revelation 13:2, it is a leopard, bear and lion. John in the Revelation, is looking “backwards†in time, while with Daniel’s vision he is looking to the future. (But, it's the same vision)
Daniel 7:24 24 The ten horns are ten kings who will come from this kingdom. After them another king will arise, different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings.
Daniel 7:24 speaks of ten horns which represents ten kings. Then another king arises (11th king) and “uproots†three of the earlier kings and the 11th king becomes the eighth.
In the Revelation, John doesn’t mention the three kings that are uprooted, he just passes over them and are completely ignored. John takes the vision from Daniel as he finds it – with three missing. But does John speak of eight heads? Yes, Revelaiton 17:11
Revelation 17:9-12 9 "This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. 10 They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for a little while. 11 The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction. 12 "The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast.
The seven heads (kings) are seven hills on which the woman sits.(Rome). Five of the kings have already fallen Augustus, Tiberius, Caligula, Claudius & Nero. One is, (Vespasian) while John is writing this book and one is to come (Domitian).
You’ll note that the persecution of which John speaks is going to come on the saints (11:7; 17:8). You also must note that John says twice (17:8,11) that the beast “is not.†That is, “he isn’t here yet†(speaking of Domitian).
So, here is what you have:
In Daniel............ In Revelation
1. Augustus............ 1. Augustus
2. Tiberius ............ 2. Tiberius
3. Caligula ............ 3. Caligula
4. Claudius ............ 4. Claudius
5. Nero..................... 5. Nero
6. Galba ............ (Kings 6,7,8 were “uprooted†and not ........................
7. Otho............. mentioned in the Book of Rev.)
8. Vitellius
9. Vespanian........... 6. Vespasian
10. Titus.............. 7. Titus
11. Domitian........... 8. Domitian
Who is the fourth beast of Daniel? Everyone agrees it is Rome and so is the beast of Revelation 13. The beast of Revelation 13 is a composite creature, made up of elements which composed Babylon, Medo-persia, and Greece.
Your servant in Messiah,
charlesj