Day of Atonement

[Donovb]

Hey guys, Im a new Christian and. I really want to know the story of the Day of Atonement and how I can celebrate the Jewish holiday. Also other feast and the meaning behind them. Thanks God Bless

 

[jasonc]

Hey guys, Im a new Christian and. I really want to know the story of the Day of Atonement and how I can celebrate the Jewish holiday. Also other feast and the meaning behind them. Thanks God Bless

yom kippur? I know of no messianic temple that does that feast. ask TOG. I haven't read up on it and I might go to chabad to read what jews do.

 

[TOG]

Hey guys, Im a new Christian and. I really want to know the story of the Day of Atonement and how I can celebrate the Jewish holiday. Also other feast and the meaning behind them. Thanks God Bless

It's not really a day to celebrate. The 10 days from Yom Teruah (the Feast of Trumpets) to Yom Kipur are called the Days of Awe. During that time, people reflect on the past year and repent of their sins. On Yom Kipur (the Day of Atonement) people do no work and fast completely - no food or water - for 24 hours. Allowances are made for children, the sick and others who cannot or should not fast, but most people are encouraged to have a complete fast. Orthodox Jews also forbid using anything that can be remotely seen as a luxury on Yom Kipur, such as leather shoes or skin cream. I've gone "all the way" once on Yom Kipur. I didn't eat or drink anything from sundown to sundown. It wasn't easy, but it was easier than I thought it would be. It helped that I had fasted partially during the 10 previous days (just fruits and vegetables and fruit juice or water). But whether you fast or not or to what extent you fast, the main emphasis of the day is repentance.

The TOG​

 

[stovebolts]

Your a bit late considering yom Kippur is 26 hours and it started yesterday and ends this evening.
Part of preparation would have been 2 feasts yesterday ending with honey cakes to represent the sweetness of Gods forgiveness which was to come. Also, you ate to forgive anyone who has done you wrong in the past year.

This holiday comes back to the golden calf which happened on the 40th day after they left Egypt. Isreal had violated the covenant and God had the right to divorce them. Moses intercedes and goes back up on the mountain. 80 days later he comes down the mountain with the new tablets.
This teaces us that God is willing to mend relationships and as long as there is willingness, any relationship can be mended. However, it took 40 days for that relationship to form (40 days), an instant to break it and twice as long (80 days) to mend it.

 

[TOG]

Your a bit late considering yom Kippur is 26 hours and it started yesterday and ends this evening.

That depends on whom you ask. The Hebrew calendar is a lunar calendar. Originally, the beginning of each month was based on the sighting of the new moon and the beginning of the year was determined by the ripeness of the barley crop. But in the 4th century, a calculated calendar was introduced, that did not depend o actual observation of the new moon or the barley, and it is that calculated calendar that is in use by most Jews today. Some Jews and Messianic Christians, however, use the actual sighting of the new moon to determine the timing of the festivals. Some who use the new moon base their calculations on it's sighting from Jerusalem, others consider it sufficient that it be sighted somewhere in Israel, and still others consider the first day of the month to be the day the moon is sighted from their location, wherever in the world that might be.

According to the calculated calendar used by most Jews today, Yom Kippur this year started at sunset yesterday and ends at nightfall tonight. But the new moon was seen from Jerusalem on Friday evening, Sept. 26th. Those who base their calendar on the actual sighting of the moon from Jerusalem will be keeping Yom Kippur starting tomorrow night and ending on Monday night. For those who base the calendar on the sighting of the new moon from their location, it will vary when exactly they will keep Yom Kippur.

The TOG​

 

[Jethro Bodine]

But we can be sure Christ came at the exact right time to be the sacrifice that satisfies God's requirement for a Day of Atonement and what he sought to do through that observance.

TOG, perhaps the OP would be interested in seeing the exact scriptures that explain what was to happen in regard to the Day of Atonement. I think he'll gain the most insight that way.

 

[stovebolts]

That depends on whom you ask. The Hebrew calendar is a lunar calendar. Originally, the beginning of each month was based on the sighting of the new moon and the beginning of the year was determined by the ripeness of the barley crop. But in the 4th century, a calculated calendar was introduced, that did not depend o actual observation of the new moon or the barley, and it is that calculated calendar that is in use by most Jews today. Some Jews and Messianic Christians, however, use the actual sighting of the new moon to determine the timing of the festivals. Some who use the new moon base their calculations on it's sighting from Jerusalem, others consider it sufficient that it be sighted somewhere in Israel, and still others consider the first day of the month to be the day the moon is sighted from their location, wherever in the world that might be.

According to the calculated calendar used by most Jews today, Yom Kippur this year started at sunset yesterday and ends at nightfall tonight. But the new moon was seen from Jerusalem on Friday evening, Sept. 26th. Those who base their calendar on the actual sighting of the moon from Jerusalem will be keeping Yom Kippur starting tomorrow night and ending on Monday night. For those who base the calendar on the sighting of the new moon from their location, it will vary when exactly they will keep Yom Kippur.

The TOG​

Good to know I suppose. But better even yet to understand the depths and riches contained within. Its a beautiful picture, and even a greater challenge to reconcile the broken world in which we live.

 

[reba]

I find it really cool that the actual days get confused ( as in what TOG said) ... Seeing that the idea/meaning of the celebrations are what is important not the day.

 

[TOG]

I find it really cool that the actual days get confused ( as in what TOG said) ... Seeing that the idea/meaning of the celebrations are what is important not the day.

But dates are important. If they weren't, people wouldn't be debating them. All major prophecies have been fulfilled on feast days. Christ was crucified on Passover, the resurrection was on the Feast of First Fruits, the outpouring of the Holy Spirit was on the Feast of Weeks and the founding of Israel was on the eve of the Feast of Weeks. That last one emphasizes the importance of getting the days right since, according to the calculated calendar used by most Jews, it was on an ordinary Sabbath, but according to the calendar kept by Karaites, who base it on the actual sighting of the New Moon, it was the 7th Sabbath after the Feast of First Fruits.

And speaking of the importance of dates, how would you feel if a law was passed moving Christmas from December 25th to the 2nd Tuesday in May?

The TOG​

 

[Jethro Bodine]

But dates are important. If they weren't, people wouldn't be debating them. All major prophecies have been fulfilled on feast days. Christ was crucified on Passover, the resurrection was on the Feast of First Fruits, the outpouring of the Holy Spirit was on the Feast of Weeks and the founding of Israel was on the eve of the Feast of Weeks. That last one emphasizes the importance of getting the days right since, according to the calculated calendar used by most Jews, it was on an ordinary Sabbath, but according to the calendar kept by Karaites, who base it on the actual sighting of the New Moon, it was the 7th Sabbath after the Feast of First Fruits.

And speaking of the importance of dates, how would you feel if a law was passed moving Christmas from December 25th to the 2nd Tuesday in May?

The TOG​

The interesting thing being that even though Christ is a fulfillment of the Day of Atonement, he did not do that on the Day of Atonement but in accordance with the early Feasts. But I'm confident there is some other prophecy that will be fulfilled according to the later Feasts.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

I find it really cool that the actual days get confused ( as in what TOG said) ... Seeing that the idea/meaning of the celebrations are what is important not the day.

I honestly think that God has allowed confusion concerning the times to send the message that the Festival schedule itself is not what it's all about, but rather what they point us to--Christ and his work on the cross and the sending of the Holy Spirit into all the world.

 

[reba]

yeah that is what i said... :tongue

 

[jasonc]

But dates are important. If they weren't, people wouldn't be debating them. All major prophecies have been fulfilled on feast days. Christ was crucified on Passover, the resurrection was on the Feast of First Fruits, the outpouring of the Holy Spirit was on the Feast of Weeks and the founding of Israel was on the eve of the Feast of Weeks. That last one emphasizes the importance of getting the days right since, according to the calculated calendar used by most Jews, it was on an ordinary Sabbath, but according to the calendar kept by Karaites, who base it on the actual sighting of the New Moon, it was the 7th Sabbath after the Feast of First Fruits.

And speaking of the importance of dates, how would you feel if a law was passed moving Christmas from December 25th to the 2nd Tuesday in May?

The TOG​

I could care less , its not his birthday in the first place, but aside from that the GOVERMENT has no place dicacting when any person can celebrate any holiday.