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Does God Make Personal Visits

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This is a two part question?

1.Does Jesus still make personal visits to people in manner that He made to the Apostles Paul and John?

Acts 9:3-6 (Paul)
3As he journeyed he came near Damascus, and suddenly a light shone around him from heaven. 4Then he fell to the ground, and heard a voice saying to him, "Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?"
5And he said, "Who are You, Lord?"
Then the Lord said, "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. F41 It is hard for you to kick against the goads."
6So he, trembling and astonished, said, "Lord, what do You want me to do?"
Then the Lord said to him, "Arise and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do."

Rev 1:10-13 (John)
10I was in the Spirit on the Lord's Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet, 11saying, "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last," F6 and, "What you see, write in a book and send it to the seven churches which are in Asia: F7 to Ephesus, to Smyrna, to Pergamos, to Thyatira, to Sardis, to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea."
12Then I turned to see the voice that spoke with me. And having turned I saw seven golden lampstands, 13and in the midst of the seven lampstands One like the Son of Man, clothed with a garment down to the feet and girded about the chest with a golden band.



2.Does God still make personal promises to individual people? I not talking about Scriptural promises found in the Bible. I am talking along the line of a prophetic word from a Prophet or visitation from God the Spirit or Son.


I believe the answer to both questions is yes. However, I would like to know the thoughts of others on these matters.



I personaly have seen visions while awake, receive prophetic messages, been touched by an angel to comfort me (I did not see it, but felt it as the Holy Spoke told me unadibly that it was an angel touching me). I have also been visited by demons in my sleep and witnessed demonic attacks upon others. However, I have never a personal visitation from Jesus.

The only supernatural visitation I had came from a demon. I was having a normal dream. I was sitting in a church listening to a sermon from a preacher I did not know. I got up to leave the church. Then all of a sudden I heard a deep voice call me by name, Ryan Matthews sit down. I turned around in the dream and saw that the preacher did not look like himself anymore. His eyes had turned red, his vains where budging out, and he had gained a lot of weigh. I was overcome by fear, so I sat down. GO ahead call me a chump.

This demon straight gave me his full name in a language I could not understand. He then gave me his rank and name of the place he ruled. He called himself prince something and threaten to kill my family if I did not stop a local Bible study that a friend and me had just started. He said that he did not like the fuss I was causing in his domain and that I would have to stop. He actually held a conversation with me in English of about five sentences, but I said nothing return. The funny part was that he was disquise as a preacher in a robe that some pastors wear and standing behind a pulpit while he spoke to me in my sleep. The dream was confirmed by my roommate who had a visitation by the same demon on the same night. Another funny thing was that my roommate was not saved. He told me that night that his wife called herself a grey witch and practiced witchcraft. I actually confronted her about a few days because my wife had been hanging with her off post. Needless to say, I eventually had to change my barrack's roommate and kept the Bible Study going after a one week pause out of fear. I had to seek a lot of mature counsel and prayer to get past it, but I did. Can't nobody ever convince me that this event was not real and did not take place.



Anyway back to the point, what do you guys say about the two questions?
 
Absolutely - YES!

There have been times when I have been visited with dreams, visions, knowledge of certain things beyond my natural understanding. I would say though that on most ocassions they have been for my personal edification rather than for the 'benefit' of others.
 
There is a reason we are not adding more books to the NT. Think about it just a little. If Paul was inspired by God to write his epistles, and Mr. X is inspired as Paul, then Mr. X should write down the words God gave him and claim equality with the scriptures. Such a claim would stand in a long list of people who claim to receive special revelations from God.... Mahamud, Joseph Smith, etc.

Again, let me ask for an exegesis of Jude 3. I did not get it in the other thread. I will post it in this thread.

Jud 1:3 Beloved, while I was giving all diligence to write unto you of our common salvation, I was constrained to write unto you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered unto the saints.

What do the words "Jud 1:3 Beloved, while I was giving all diligence to write unto you of our common salvation, I was constrained to write unto you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered unto the saints" mean? Especially the word once.

As for me, my authority for doctrine and practice is the written scriptures. 2 Tim 3:16-17 tells me that it is sufficient to equip the man of God. I need no more. This is not to say that God has not given us teachers of the word of God, but the NT does not claim inspiration for those teachers. They are fallible.

In fact, your claims of inspiration are denotative of one claiming infallibility. Such a claim is grandeous and not of God.
 
mondar said:
There is a reason we are not adding more books to the NT. Think about it just a little. If Paul was inspired by God to write his epistles, and Mr. X is inspired as Paul, then Mr. X should write down the words God gave him and claim equality with the scriptures. Such a claim would stand in a long list of people who claim to receive special revelations from God.... Mahamud, Joseph Smith, etc.
I agree in principle, but no one here is wishing to add anything to the Bible. No one has claimed inspiration or revelation for the purpose of superseding doctrine. Maybe I missed it; I don't read every thread.
We reject the writings of those people (and others) because they make claims and statements that do not agree with the Bible.

mondar said:
Again, let me ask for an exegesis of Jude 3. I did not get it in the other thread. I will post it in this thread.

Jud 1:3 Beloved, while I was giving all diligence to write unto you of our common salvation, I was constrained to write unto you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered unto the saints.

What do the words "Jud 1:3 Beloved, while I was giving all diligence to write unto you of our common salvation, I was constrained to write unto you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered unto the saints" mean? Especially the word once.
Jude is not referring to the New Testament in his epistle, he is referring to our faith. He is exhorting us to "contend earnestly for the faith". What faith? The faith delivered in it's entirety. There is nothing to be added to our faith (Jesus did it all), but to our instruction and our correction. John wrote his epistles as well as Revelation twenty or thirty years after Jude wrote his letter. Should we exclude those?

A great many things have been written for our instruction. Should we ignore them all because they are not canonized? I don't give them any more weight than what you have written. Does that mean there is no truth in what you write? No. It does not.

mondar said:
As for me, my authority for doctrine and practice is the written scriptures. 2 Tim 3:16-17 tells me that it is sufficient to equip the man of God. I need no more. This is not to say that God has not given us teachers of the word of God, but the NT does not claim inspiration for those teachers. They are fallible.
I agree. Paul even says as much when he writes that he delivered his gospel to the other apostles to see if he had labored in vain.
Paul said:
“I submitted to them the gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but I did so in private to those who were of reputation, for fear that I might be running, or had run, in vain.â€Â
(Galatians 2:2 NASB)
By the way, Paul is referring to the Old Testament when he wrote to Timothy.
Are you saying the Holy Spirit has never inspired you to do something or say something?
Does the Spirit empower us in silence? Not in my case. I certainly do not claim to be infallible, but I hear His voice (in a manner of speaking, not an audible voice).

mondar said:
In fact, your claims of inspiration are denotative of one claiming infallibility. Such a claim is grandeous and not of God.
Maybe I missed these claims, but if someone says God told them anything that is counter to scripture it is a lie.
 
manichunter said:
....1.Does Jesus still make personal visits to people in manner that He made to the Apostles Paul and John?....
Yes. Read about Saint Faustina. On October 5, 1938, a young religious by the name Sister Faustina (Helen Kowalska) died in a convent of the Congregation of Sisters of Our Lady of Mercy in Cracow, Poland. She came from a very poor family that had struggled hard on their little farm during the terrible years of WWI. Sister had had only three years of very simple education. Hers were the humblest of tasks in the convent, usually in the kitchen or the vegetable garden, or as a porter.

On February 22, 1931, Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ appeared to this simple nun, bringing with Him a wonderful message of Mercy for all mankind. Saint Faustina tells us in her diary under this date:

"In the evening, when I was in my cell, I became aware of the Lord
Jesus clothed in a white garment. One hand was raised in blessing,
the other was touching the garment at the breast. From the opening
of the garment at the breast there came forth two large rays, one
red and the other pale. In silence I gazed intently at the Lord;
my soul was overwhelmed with fear, but also with great joy. After
a while Jesus said to me, 'paint an image according to the pattern
you see, with the inscription: Jesus, I trust in You.'"


Some time later, Our Lord again spoke to her:

"The pale ray stands for the Water which makes souls righteous;
the red ray stands for the Blood which is the life of souls. These
two rays issued forth from the depths of My most tender Mercy at
that time when My agonizing Heart was opened by a lance on the
Cross....Fortunate is the one who will dwell in their shelter, for
the just hand of God shall not lay hold of him."


source: http://www.ewtn.com/Devotionals/mercy/stfaust.htm

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He is God, He can do what He wants. He did it in the Old Testament, and came to earth in teh form of Jesus in the New Testament. If he wants to make a visit he will. We do have the Holy Spirit in us every day so He is there personally with you at every moment, maybe we should stop ignoring him.
 
KenEOTE said:
He is God, He can do what He wants. He did it in the Old Testament, and came to earth in teh form of Jesus in the New Testament. If he wants to make a visit he will. We do have the Holy Spirit in us every day so He is there personally with you at every moment, maybe we should stop ignoring him.
No response, just worth reposting. :angel:
 
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