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[_ Old Earth _] Dr. Carl Baugh and the Math "Professor"

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Many years ago, I was watching Dr. Carl Baugh one night on TBN. He had invited a "professor" of mathematics onto his show. The "professor" presented some interesting statistical arguments, so I decided to search out more information on the "professor." I was really curious about if the "professor" had published this work anywhere through which I could obtain a copy. As I was searching, I discovered this "professor" taught mathematics at a high school. It turns out this "professor" was merely a high school mathematics teacher.

What do you think about this practice? Honest? Deceptive?
 
Would this be the same 'professor' who, before Baugh's admiring gaze, demonstrates the 'soundness' of population growth figures based on a post-Noachian flood population of eight people and, by contrast, how absurdly nonsensical 'evolutionary' population growth figures are?
 
lordkalvan said:
Would this be the same 'professor' who, before Baugh's admiring gaze, demonstrates the 'soundness' of population growth figures based on a post-Noachian flood population of eight people and, by contrast, how absurdly nonsensical 'evolutionary' population growth figures are?
Indeed, that would be the "professor."
 
What is with the "" Are you questioning his credentials because he adheres to something you do not? Heck even i recognize Dawkins as professor and he stands for everything i am against.
 
John said:
What is with the "" Are you questioning his credentials because he adheres to something you do not? Heck even i recognize Dawkins as professor and he stands for everything i am against.
I am using the quotations to denote a special usage of the term professor. The common usage of professor refers to an instructor at an institute of higher learning (i.e., college or university), and as such carries the connotation of someone with advanced degrees in the field (i.e., an expert in the field). The less common usage refers to merely an instructor. Hence, a teacher in an elementary school could be considered a professor under these circumstances.

Though Dr. Baugh has correctly applied the term to the "professor" of mathematics (i.e., a math teacher at a high school, not a university professor), the application is problematic. The average person would assume the "professor" is a university professor with advanced degrees in the field, and is therefore an expert on the subject. This provides a greater "authority" element to the argument presented by the individual.

Therefore, my question is, was Dr. Baugh purposely applying the term professor to this teacher to give added authoritative weight to the teacher's argument? That is, was Dr. Baugh attempting to present this individual as an "expert in the field" to make the person's argument more convincing? And if so, are such tactics honest or dishonest?

And, as a secondary note, I found the arguments by the "professor" to be interesting at the time. I do not recall them enough detail to critique them. Thus, I cannot say whether or not I agree with them. (Though, given that I have serious caveats with Young Earth Creationism because of the dishonest tactics of many of its proponents, I am inclined to guess that would probably be a no. I do remain open-minded though.)
 
I would have to see the man's credentials before I made a judgement. He may be a highschool math teacher, but does that mean he is not an "expert in his field"? What if he felt he wanted to teach highschoolers instead of college students, that doesn't mean he hadn't completed a master's degree. And besides, isn't one only considered an "expert" once they earn a doctorate? He wasn't called "doctor" was he? I prefer to not make assumptions without learning the facts :shrug
 
caromurp said:
I would have to see the man's credentials before I made a judgement. He may be a highschool math teacher, but does that mean he is not an "expert in his field"? What if he felt he wanted to teach highschoolers instead of college students, that doesn't mean he hadn't completed a master's degree. And besides, isn't one only considered an "expert" once they earn a doctorate? He wasn't called "doctor" was he? I prefer to not make assumptions without learning the facts
I appreciate your skepticism.

I am confident the individual did not hold a doctorate degree. My experience with Young Earth Creationism suggests many of their arguments are rooted in or have a strong component of authority to them. (I am inclined to believe this is because of the authoritative nature of their world view, but I digress.) Thus, had the individual held a doctorate degree, I would expect Dr. Baugh to make note of it.

I am not sure if the individual held a master's degree, and the application of the term expert can be varied. However, it is not generally customary to call a teacher at an elementary or secondary school, even when they hold a master's degree.
 
At the universities where I have studied the term 'Professor' is reserved for tenured professors. This is the accepted practise in the scientific community. A PhD in your field results in you being addressed as Doctor, not Professor. A PhD AND an active professorship is the only way to be called Professor. At large research universities it is not uncommon for some of the people who lecture undergraduates to have PhDs, but not formally be professors. There is always much angst when an undergraduate needs to contact an instructor they don't know very well, as if you call someone who is only a Doctor, 'Professor' they will have to admit they are not a professor and may be embarassed, but if you call a Professor 'Doctor', they can feel slighted. There is certainly an amount of prestige that goes with the title.

Within this community, presenting someone as 'Professor' who does not hold the post is at best an embarassing blunder, and at worst intentionally deceptive.
 
atheiststudent,

You are correct "Professor" is a formal title within academia, and is generally reserved for tenure-track instructors with a Ph.D. This is not always the case, though.

That said, the issue being raised is not focused on the formal title but the general usage. After all, Dr. Baugh's audience is not academics but a general audience. And it is within this sense which I believe Dr. Baugh is still inappropriately applying the term.
 
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