[_ Old Earth _] Evidence of After-life via Phenomena

[Ephesians 6:12]

Not all documentation of phenomena is scientific, but some is. psiberific.com & psifactor.tvheaven.com are related to the old tv series "PSI Factor-Chronicles of the Paranormal", which claimed to be based on true case files of the Office of Scientific Investigation & Research...................................................................................................The real OSIR has a contact address at one of the sites posted, but they aren't open to the public, and investigate internationally at the request of govs, who determine if the phenomena warrants investigating..............................................................................................There is an amateur group of investigators with the same OSIR initials that are the "Organization of Scientific Investigation & Research" at OSIRonline.org. They are not near as scientific, but do investigate paranormal phenomena..................................................................................................Ghostresearch.org & ghostpix.com are 2 of many haunted sites investigators, documenting undeniable evidence like temperature fluxuations and anomalously high EMF readings at haunted sites, besides objects moving, spontaneous fires, ghost scratches (really burns), and EVPs....................................................................Electronic Voice Phenomena is evolving better ways of filtering out sounds other than ghosts, using modulation techniques.................................................................................................At ghostpix.com are thousands of DIGITAL photos of faint floating glowing orbs, and smokelike plasm, and human ghost images, from haunted sites...................................................................Science has a rule of "energy conversion" that doesn't apply to the electro-static field of living things in the death process. I speculate the 4 inch glowing orbs are captured energy signatures of the departed, as with the "plasm" (for lack of a better term)....................................................................Other sites of interest are; paranormal.org, Bellwitchfansite.com, paranormalnews.com, Forteantimes.com, & unexplainable.net...........................................................................................Documentations of other phenomena are related, and can be Googled, such as; seances (1 Samuel 28:3-16-old KJV), possession or dispossession (1 Samuel 16:13-23 old KJV), and oracles via automatic writing/Ouija (Habakkuk 2:2, 2 Chronicles 18:19-22 old KJV).....................................................................Sand table oracles were used by various religions before Christ, and in the age of Zarathustra, thus the reference of Habakkuk 2:2. When Jesus stooped to write on the ground, he needed a wise answer fast, lest the bloodthirsty crowd stone him also for contradicting the law of Moses (John 8:6-11). He was doing a variation of sand table oracles, or "automatic writing"...................................................................................................There is much documentation of the validity of oracles, from Spurrina warning of Greeks bearing gifts (Trojan horse), to Julius Ceasar told "Beware the ides of March", to the Oracle of Delphi put to the test by Lydian king Croesus....................................................................................................Historic documentation of curse powers are also worth mentioning. The "evil eye" and defenses are famed around the Mediterranean. Deuteronomy 30:7 & 2 Samuel 16:12 KJV, and 1 Timothy 1:20, 1 Corinthians 5:5 are not all the Biblical references to curse powers. Google curses for many modern curse stories that defy scientific explanation also.....................................................................Good or evil is not the issue, but the validity of the phenomena, where science is concerned................................................................Fatima, Garabandal, and similar stories fit the definition of paranormal also, as does the story of Jeshua (Jesus). The comatose woman of Conyers Georgia at the heart of miraculous or paranormal phenomena there shows God has a problem with representatives being discredited by lies, so she was chosen, I assume..................................................................Telepathy and prophecy by dreams and visions are validated in the Bible also. But consider that info is transferred to the past from the future by whatever means or Force, for an entanglement regarding linear time, and our time/space continuum breached somehow..................................................................Science doesn't have all the answers, but the concept of a universal spirit explains alot that science won't touch. The common denominator of intelligent life lives through all life. How could Jesus command demons into swine, or God command the animals onto Noahs' ark? God is within animals also.....................................................................I post this article for the reinforcement of faith, too often under attack by those who refuse to recognize such evidences...from the twilight zone....................................................................This is too hostile an environment to testify to my personal experiences, but, I was dead 3 hours in 1971, and supernaturally kept alive through another 7 hangings, and attempts on my life with guns. (Revelations 9:6, Ephesians 6:16). Keep the faith, true Christians! God is a scientific fact, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[ThinkerMan]

Just a tip....if you look to the right-hand side of your keyboard you will see this...

If you use it from time to time (especially to seperate topics and paragraphs) it will make it easier for others to read your post and respond.

 

[Ephesians 6:12]

Sorry, critic. There's no such designation on the keyboard of this MSN webtv rig. Don't read my posts then, if it's so abominable to you.

 

[SyntaxVorlon]

See this? Now look at that button directly above the shift and up arrow keys. It may say enter or return on it. USE IT.

 

[Sara929]

Sorry, critic. There's no such designation on the keyboard of this MSN webtv rig. Don't read my posts then, if it's so abominable to you.

Hun,

Please don't be offended. With how much is posted on the web, particularly message boards, any message that isn't spaced well. Or broken up into clear concise sections is typically ignored.

Their posts and pics are in jest, but also in aggrivation. As its considered very impolite or against net-etiquette to not spend the time to space things out. If the articles means much to you, try reposting it with better structure. You can do that even with a web-tv rig ;)

With luv,
-Sara

 

[serapha]

HI there!

:smt039

Let me help you...

Not all documentation of phenomena is scientific, but some is. psiberific.com & psifactor.tvheaven.com are related to the old tv series "PSI Factor-Chronicles of the Paranormal", which claimed to be based on true case files of the Office of Scientific Investigation & Research


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The real OSIR has a contact address at one of the sites posted, but they aren't open to the public, and investigate internationally at the request of govs, who determine if the phenomena warrants investigating

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There is an amateur group of investigators with the same OSIR initials that are the "Organization of Scientific Investigation & Research" at OSIRonline.org. They are not near as scientific, but do investigate paranormal phenomena

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Ghostresearch.org & ghostpix.com are 2 of many haunted sites investigators, documenting undeniable evidence like temperature fluxuations and anomalously high EMF readings at haunted sites, besides objects moving, spontaneous fires, ghost scratches (really burns), and EVPs

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Electronic Voice Phenomena is evolving better ways of filtering out sounds other than ghosts, using modulation techniques

.................................................................................................

At ghostpix.com are thousands of DIGITAL photos of faint floating glowing orbs, and smokelike plasm, and human ghost images, from haunted sites

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Science has a rule of "energy conversion" that doesn't apply to the electro-static field of living things in the death process. I speculate the 4 inch glowing orbs are captured energy signatures of the departed, as with the "plasm" (for lack of a better term)

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Other sites of interest are; paranormal.org, Bellwitchfansite.com, paranormalnews.com, Forteantimes.com, & unexplainable.net


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Documentations of other phenomena are related, and can be Googled, such as; seances (1 Samuel 28:3-16-old KJV), possession or dispossession (1 Samuel 16:13-23 old KJV), and oracles via automatic writing/Ouija (Habakkuk 2:2, 2 Chronicles 18:19-22 old KJV)


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Sand table oracles were used by various religions before Christ, and in the age of Zarathustra, thus the reference of Habakkuk 2:2. When Jesus stooped to write on the ground, he needed a wise answer fast, lest the bloodthirsty crowd stone him also for contradicting the law of Moses (John 8:6-11). He was doing a variation of sand table oracles, or "automatic writing"


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There is much documentation of the validity of oracles, from Spurrina warning of Greeks bearing gifts (Trojan horse), to Julius Ceasar told "Beware the ides of March", to the Oracle of Delphi put to the test by Lydian king Croesus


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Historic documentation of curse powers are also worth mentioning. The "evil eye" and defenses are famed around the Mediterranean. Deuteronomy 30:7 & 2 Samuel 16:12 KJV, and 1 Timothy 1:20, 1 Corinthians 5:5 are not all the Biblical references to curse powers. Google curses for many modern curse stories that defy scientific explanation also


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Good or evil is not the issue, but the validity of the phenomena, where science is concerned


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Fatima, Garabandal, and similar stories fit the definition of paranormal also, as does the story of Jeshua (Jesus). The comatose woman of Conyers Georgia at the heart of miraculous or paranormal phenomena there shows God has a problem with representatives being discredited by lies, so she was chosen, I assume


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Telepathy and prophecy by dreams and visions are validated in the Bible also. But consider that info is transferred to the past from the future by whatever means or Force, for an entanglement regarding linear time, and our time/space continuum breached somehow



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Science doesn't have all the answers, but the concept of a universal spirit explains alot that science won't touch. The common denominator of intelligent life lives through all life. How could Jesus command demons into swine, or God command the animals onto Noahs' ark? God is within animals also

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I post this article for the reinforcement of faith, too often under attack by those who refuse to recognize such evidences...from the twilight zone

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This is too hostile an environment to testify to my personal experiences, but, I was dead 3 hours in 1971, and supernaturally kept alive through another 7 hangings, and attempts on my life with guns. (Revelations 9:6, Ephesians 6:16). Keep the faith, true Christians! God is a scientific fact, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[serapha]

Well, helllooo...

:-D

After separating it out and being able to read it better, I am almost at a loss of words.


There is a big distinction between what is from God and what isn't from God... and if it isn't from God... I personally would advise you not to be relating to it.


I find the "orbs" interesting... and I don't know that they aren't God's guardian angels here on earth. You don't see orbs doing any bad things. They just sit there and "shine".

Good or evil is not the issue, but the validity of the phenomena, where science is concerned

Ah, but good or evil is the issue. If the phenomena is not "Godly" then assuredly it is evil. Satan comes as an "angel of light"... that in itself should concern people who look at the scientific for answers.

This is too hostile an environment to testify to my personal experiences, but, I was dead 3 hours in 1971, and supernaturally kept alive through another 7 hangings, and attempts on my life with guns.

My friend, Is there a moment in time when you know without a doubt that God saved you and changed you into a new creation? You know.... picked you up out of the muck and mire of sin and set your feet on the solid rock that's named "Jesus"????

After being dead for 3 hours and 7 hangings, if you aren't saved, I would invite you to find God as soon as you can.

If you are saved, I would invite you to testify on how God changed your life, bringing you out of those past circumstances.

Do you pray for God's protection on your mind when you go reading into all the paranormal materials? If you don't, you need to,.


~serapha~

 

[Ephesians 6:12]

Science ot About Good VS Evil, but True VS False

Since when is it evil to read about paranormal phenomena? How could Jesus cast out demons without knowledge of them? ........................................................................................Science is NOT about whether the phenomena is from good or evil, but is the phenomena reality. Then further study can determine if the scary phenomena actually drives people closer to God, or enlightens them, or if it leads to damnation. .........................................................................................On 2/6/05, the Discovery channel aired a documentary titled "A Haunting in Georgia". It involved an investigation headed by a psychologist into a site and family haunted with the full range of phenomena occuring. ........................................................................................The site had anomalously high EMF readings in the 40 milligauss range, and wild temperature fluxuations. The phenomena of "ghost scratches" also manifested, and medical study of the scratches showed the scratches to be result of burning just beneath the skin, which requires energy control enough to write words on skin. .......................................................................................The static electric field of bodies is released upon death, and any realm containing them would then have high EMF readings logically. Ghosts appearing at the Georgia portal were identified from old photos as being deceased people from that locale, returning to their old neighborhood via the portal for brief appearances. ........................................................................................Am I somehow demonic for pointing to evidence of an after-life now? Are the ghosts demonic because they no longer live, or can manifest? Even Jesus was accused of being demonic. People like you tend to call anything evil that disturbs the view of a life with no after-life, or reality with no miracles, or other anomalies. The ghost related death toll appears tiny, if at all, though scary enough to get people to seek protection from God. Evil? ......................................................................................Show me evidence of evil then. The evil of the living is much easier to prove.

 

[Ephesians 6:12]

Evil spirits

"And the evil spirit answered, and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye? And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded"-Acts 19:15-16.

 

[reznwerks]

Re: Science ot About Good VS Evil, but True VS False

Since when is it evil to read about paranormal phenomena? How could Jesus cast out demons without knowledge of them?
We don't know that Jesus actually did this let alone know that he actually lived. Even if he did this is not big news. Just about all religions claim to be able to do this feat. Ask any witch doctor.

........................................................................................Science is NOT about whether the phenomena is from good or evil, but is the phenomena reality. Then further study can determine if the scary phenomena actually drives people closer to God, or enlightens them, or if it leads to damnation.
I agree there is more than enough evidence to warrant further study on the matter but even if evidence is found to strongly suggsest a spirit world exists that still does not default to the existance of a God or especially the Bible God. There doesn't have to be a sole leader in the spirit world any more than there is a sole leader of the human race. As to people getting closer to God based on their experience I would chalk it off to fear rather than enlightenment.

.........................................................................................On 2/6/05, the Discovery channel aired a documentary titled "A Haunting in Georgia". It involved an investigation headed by a psychologist into a site and family haunted with the full range of phenomena occuring. ........................................................................................The site had anomalously high EMF readings in the 40 milligauss range, and wild temperature fluxuations. The phenomena of "ghost scratches" also manifested, and medical study of the scratches showed the scratches to be result of burning just beneath the skin, which requires energy control enough to write words on skin. .......................................................................................The static electric field of bodies is released upon death, and any realm containing them would then have high EMF readings logically. Ghosts appearing at the Georgia portal were identified from old photos as being deceased people from that locale, returning to their old neighborhood via the portal for brief appearances.
I saw the show and thought it had credibility. However one question remains unanswered and I have asked it before. Why are ghosts always dressed in the clothes of the period? Clothes don't have any and have never had any life force and should not reappear with the ghost in question. It has been suggested that this phenomenon is somehow related to the way a video recording works. For some reason strong emotion or strong personalities get recorded in the atmosphere and then somehow get played over and over.

........................................................................................Am I somehow demonic for pointing to evidence of an after-life now? Are the ghosts demonic because they no longer live, or can manifest? Even Jesus was accused of being demonic. People like you tend to call anything evil that disturbs the view of a life with no after-life, or reality with no miracles, or other anomalies. The ghost related death toll appears tiny, if at all, though scary enough to get people to seek protection from God. Evil? ......................................................................................Show me evidence of evil then. The evil of the living is much easier to prove.
Any time one of these stories come to light you have to look at the backround of the family. Virtually every time when you do you find an unusually high incidence of extreme religous belief or devotion. I would say this is the source of the events and not the evidence of something greater.

 

[Ephesians 6:12]

Atheists at Christian Forums to attack!

Why would an atheist spend time at Christian sites to attack peoples' faith, unless he's rabid, or on a freemason mission?

First off, the Roman senate documented proof of Jesus when they summoned Pilate to Rome. At the mention of his name, the statues shattered, so they beheaded Pilate. The deaths of apostles in Rome, and the practice of throwing Christians to the lions in the Roman arena is also documented, and validates the reality of the Christ.

Secondly; not for your sake, but for those who have a Bible, the answer to why there must be a sole spirit is in John 11:52, & 14:26. But there are two leaders in the tribulation Revelation 11:15, Acts 4:26, Psalm 2:2, Zechariah 11, Psalm 110:5, Matthew 22:44.

Third issue; If belief in religion causes paranormal phenomena, as you suggest, how can you deny there's a God? Science has no explanation for it all. If those who believe in God cause phenomena, maybe they know what they speak of.
BUT, I know of obnoxious defiant atheists being attacked by the unseen during Ouija incidents, or in one case, imminent death was predicted, and happened. I've never seen any data suggesting it only happens to those who believe in God. Bellwitchfansite.com is a famous long term haunting where the ghost is friendly to the religious and hostile to the godless.

ghostpix.com has digital pictures of ghosts that appear to be clothed, yet transparent. So, it's not merely a matter of how eyes perceive it, DIGITAL pictures also see it. It's a mystery to me how or why. Samuel's ghost appears in his usual mantle in 1 Samuel 28:9-19 KJV or 1 Kings 28:9-19 other versions.

 

[reznwerks]

Re: Atheists at Christian Forums to attack!

Why would an atheist spend time at Christian sites to attack peoples' faith, unless he's rabid, or on a freemason mission?
I don't think this post belongs in this section. However I should point out that Masons believe in God . They may not believe in the bible God but they do believe in a creator.That being said most Masons are Christian. They are Presby. Methodists Lutherans Congregational etc.

First off, the Roman senate documented proof of Jesus when they summoned Pilate to Rome.
No there is no documented proof of Jesus anywhere plain and simple.

At the mention of his name, the statues shattered, so they beheaded Pilate. The deaths of apostles in Rome, and the practice of throwing Christians to the lions in the Roman arena is also documented, and validates the reality of the Christ.
What is documented is that Christians were persecuted. This does not mean that Jesus ever lived or that statues shattered.


Third issue; If belief in religion causes paranormal phenomena, as you suggest, how can you deny there's a God?
Very easy.Paranormal phenomena is just that paranormal phenomena. It means nothing other than that. It is stuff we just don't understand as yet and implies nothing more. To suggest that it infers of a God is wishful thinking. I have always said if there is a heaven or hell it is there for one and all regardless of faith or no faith.

Science has no explanation for it all.
So what? Man will never have all the answers to everything, get over it.

If those who believe in God cause phenomena, maybe they know what they speak of.
No maybe somehow they are the cause of the phenomenon that we don't yet understand the workings of.
BUT, I know of obnoxious defiant atheists being attacked by the unseen during Ouija incidents, or in one case, imminent death was predicted, and happened. I've never seen any data suggesting it only happens to those who believe in God. Bellwitchfansite.com is a famous long term haunting where the ghost is friendly to the religious and hostile to the godless.
I have never heard of atheists being attacked by anything unseen not that this is proof of anything. The fact that atheists are involved in ouija board suggests that they are not entirely comfortable with their understandings.

ghostpix.com has digital pictures of ghosts that appear to be clothed, yet transparent. So, it's not merely a matter of how eyes perceive it, DIGITAL pictures also see it. It's a mystery to me how or why. Samuel's ghost appears in his usual mantle in 1 Samuel 28:9-19 KJV or 1 Kings 28:9-19 other versions.
I've seen all that and I am interested in the digital recorders that pick up recordings when no one hears anything. As I said I am not discounting the reality of ghosts but I wonder if they are the product of the other side or somehow an atmospheric recording we don't understand. Clothes should not be part of the ghost and as for the mysterious voices that are recorded they are stuck in time. They offer no advice for the living nor do they communicate anything meaningful that can be documented.

 

[Ephesians 6:12]

Freemasons founded modern Satanism & mafia

At least you're honest about your support for freemasons, and that explains why you come to CF to attack others' faith.

Both Aliester Crowley and Anton Lavey were freemasons, and it shows in their inventions of abomination rituals styled after Baalist child murder "sacrifices". The Bible has no such rituals in the name of Satan. Lavey taught junk like baby fat candle rituals and cannibaalism, and Crowley was heavy on the masonic symbolisms, and he founded OTO (Ordo Templi Orientis).

Freemason Mazzini founded the Italian mafia that has monopoly control of the sex biz in the USA. NSA fraud & corruption protect the "Scot-freemasons".

I recommend a video by Ralph Epperson titled "New World Order", because 33rds supplied him with his details about freemason control of all nations & UN. Murdered William Cooper exposed masonic control of US Intel agencies. Murdered Father Malachi Martin exposed masonic infiltration of the Catholic church with abomination rituals of initiation, meaning ritual murder of innocents.

Refer to my thread in "End Times" category about Jesus VS the kings & rulers of the earth in scripture. There is proper to continue this argument. Freemasonry is condemned in the tribulation; Psalm 110:5, Rev 19:11-19, Acts 4:26, Ephesians 6:12, Isaiah 24:21-22, etc.

That's just like a lying freemason to deny that the Roman senate documented the death sentence of Pontius Pilate over the crucifixion, and sign of the shattered statues. Refer to "The Lost Books of the Bible" about that story.

The evilest I've ever known in life were all freemasons of organized crime. Hells' Angels documentary on History channel & the A&E channel shows pres Barger admitting they do contract murders with a masonic plaque in the background. Saints, MY DONKEY!

I've debated with masons on other sites, and I always know them by their tactics; distortions, lies, denial of facts, character assassinations, anything but truth.

You, as a defender of masonic criminals, show yourself to be anti-God by your own admission, and I'm supposed to believe masons are saintly on YOUR word? HA! BS.

The validity of the Bible is proven by many fulfilled predictions. Isaiah 34:4 describes black holes. The crucifixion was repeatedly predicted, and the history of Jerusalem. Elisha beat science to the knowledge of ridding water of bacteria via salting it. The predicted events of the tribulation are scientifically accurate, as to effects to expect.

Freemasonry fits the predicted "whore of Babylon" to a tee, and Baalism is Babylonian. See infowars.com/Bohemian Grove about the ruling class Molech/Baal rituals practiced still.

Pope Clement II in 1738 denounced freemasonry as being the "synagogue of Satan" of Rev 2:9 & 3:9. In 1961, the Vatican Roman Curia book "The Plot Against the Church" also calls Scottish Rite Freemasonry "synagogue of Satan". With Satanism founded by masons, and the Luciferian writings of prominent masons Albert Pike & Blavatski, I agree that it is the predicted evil.

Follow your freemason anti-heroes to hell, Reznwerks!

 

[reznwerks]

ephesians

Hey Ephesians that was pretty neat how you turned a topic of the supernatural into a rant on the masons and your misunderstanding of them.

 

[reznwerks]

Re: Freemasons founded modern Satanism & mafia

At least you're honest about your support for freemasons, and that explains why you come to CF to attack others' faith.
I am in full support of masonry. They have been involved in our nations founding and many leaders of our country have been masons. Overall the masons have proved themselves to be outstanding citizens and do much good without expecting any reward. You could do much worse than having a Mason as a friend.

Both Aliester Crowley and Anton Lavey were freemasons, and it shows in their inventions of abomination rituals styled after Baalist child murder "sacrifices". Hitler was Christian. Whats your point.
Freemason Mazzini founded the Italian mafia that has monopoly control of the sex biz in the USA. NSA fraud & corruption protect the "Scot-freemasons".
There is no founder of the mafia. The mafia originated as a protection system against the criminal authorities and evolved into the illegal empire that it is.

I recommend a video by Ralph Epperson titled "New World Order",
Mr Epperson sees shadows in the dark. Do you realize how many people have to involved for his imagination to be credible. Do you realize how many people have to keep silent? The Masons are good but not that good.

That's just like a lying freemason to deny that the Roman senate documented the death sentence of Pontius Pilate over the crucifixion, and sign of the shattered statues. Refer to "The Lost Books of the Bible" about that story.
Anytime you want to offer the evidence we are here. Make sure you save some time and let all the archeologists and especially the Brittanica Enc know so they can update their knowledge base.

The evilest I've ever known in life were all freemasons of organized crime. Hells' Angels documentary on History channel & the A&E channel shows pres Barger admitting they do contract murders with a masonic plaque in the background. Saints, MY DONKEY!
I think you are starting to ramble a bit at this point. Hells Angels are a motorcycle gang.

I've debated with masons on other sites, and I always know them by their tactics; distortions, lies, denial of facts, character assassinations, anything but truth.
Anything that doesn't agree with your percieved perception of reality I bet.

You, as a defender of masonic criminals, show yourself to be anti-God by your own admission, and I'm supposed to believe masons are saintly on YOUR word? HA! BS.
Masons can't be anti god. That is one thing that they MUST profess to become a mason. They must believe in God plain and simple. Now don't confuse that with the God of the bible. That is not necessarily true even though there are Christians that are Masons.

The validity of the Bible is proven by many fulfilled predictions. Isaiah 34:4 describes black holes. The crucifixion was repeatedly predicted, and the history of Jerusalem. Elisha beat science to the knowledge of ridding water of bacteria via salting it. The predicted events of the tribulation are scientifically accurate, as to effects to expect.
I have already shown time and again those so called prophecies were not really prophecies and all you have to do is read the whole chapter. Salt doesn't kill all bacteria otherwise the pharm companies would have a patent on it. The tribulation cannot be scientificallyh accurate since it hasn't happened.What did you have for lunch anyway? Anything solid?

Freemasonry fits the predicted "whore of Babylon" to a tee, and Baalism is Babylonian. See infowars.com/Bohemian Grove about the ruling class Molech/Baal rituals practiced still.
I am sure if you look you could find a dozen or more things that would fit that description. You are creating your own reality. How exciting it must be! LOL

Pope Clement II in 1738 denounced freemasonry as being the "synagogue of Satan" of Rev 2:9 & 3:9. In 1961, the Vatican Roman Curia book "The Plot Against the Church" also calls Scottish Rite Freemasonry "synagogue of Satan". With Satanism founded by masons, and the Luciferian writings of prominent masons Albert Pike & Blavatski, I agree that it is the predicted evil.
Well if you agree with it then it must be a fact. LOL

Follow your freemason anti-heroes to hell, Reznwerks!
I am going to heaven with everyone else assuming there is one.

 

[Ephesians 6:12]

Freemason Evil

The founding fathers were pre-"Illuminati" masons (founded by Weishaupt). We THE PEOPLE would not settle for less than a righteous constitution, which has been usurped by unPatriot Acts of Skull & Bones member Bush, and the 1947 National Security Act.

Hitler was NOT Christian, as you say, but a counterfeit, really a member of the Thule secret society. He was no more Christian than Skull & Bones member Bush, who also pretends to be Christian for support of the people.

You lie about Mazzini not founding the mafia. Google him up! Epperson's facts were supplied by 33rds! So discreditation by character assassination is irrelevant BS in his case.

Google up the fate of Captain William Morgan, who, in the 1800s exposed freemasonry, and was abducted, and tortured to death for masonic entertainment. That's how they keep members silent, with terror & rewards.

You denied the validity of evidence I presented about historical record of Jesus by the Roman senate, contained in a letter included in "The Lost Books of the Bible". So, Google up the Roman captain Publius Lentius, and his report to Rome about Jesus, his charisma & miracles. That report caused Rome to send for Jesus, but he was crucified before word got to Pontius Pilate. So Rome summoned Pontius Pilate instead, and beheaded him.

You lie also about salt to kill bacteria. Dentists RECOMMEND mouthwashing with salty water after extractions for that very reason!

Before you claim you will go to heaven in spite of being atheist against Jesus, you'd best research the studies of Near Death Experiences, especially the study done on Vietnam war NDEs.

I never said Hells' Angels is a freemason lodge, but their president Ralph "Sonny" Barger IS a mason who displayed a masonic plaque in the tv documentary.

The mafia is not formally a lodge either, BUT is founded and controlled by freemasons, and is a fast track path to 33rd, since mafia isn't naive about the nature of what they joined.

Masons are required to infiltrate any religion, (as Reznwerks did CF) and to believe there is a God, not believe IN God. Skull & Bones is no Christian club, yet Bush attends church for a false fascade. Since you support masonic lies, why do you reject God?

 

[reznwerks]

Re: Freemason Evil

Hitler was NOT Christian, as you say, but a counterfeit, really a member of the Thule secret society. He was no more Christian than Skull & Bones member Bush, who also pretends to be Christian for support of the people.
Hitler may not be your definition of Christian but then again who is? Read Mein Kampf.

You lie about Mazzini not founding the mafia. Google him up! Epperson's facts were supplied by 33rds! So discreditation by character assassination is irrelevant BS in his case.
I didn't lie about Mazzini. Here are some links about the origins of the mafia and Mazzini isn't mentioned.
http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761 ... Mafia.html
http://www.search-international.com/Art ... rigins.htm
http://users.aol.com/whizkid01/hist.html

Google up the fate of Captain William Morgan, who, in the 1800s exposed freemasonry, and was abducted, and tortured to death for masonic entertainment. That's how they keep members silent, with terror & rewards.
As I said Morgan understood the penalty for breaking the oath.

You denied the validity of evidence I presented about historical record of Jesus by the Roman senate, contained in a letter included in "The Lost Books of the Bible". So, Google up the Roman captain , and his report to Rome about Jesus, his charisma & miracles. That report caused Rome to send for Jesus, but he was crucified before word got to Pontius Pilate. So Rome summoned Pontius Pilate instead, and beheaded him.
Publius is a fictitious person. You really need to get a grip and check your sources.
http://www.truthbeknown.com/kimball.htm
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:TU ... ogus&hl=en



You lie also about salt to kill bacteria. Dentists RECOMMEND mouthwashing with salty water after extractions for that very reason!
There you go again jumping to conclusions. Salt kills SOME bacteria but not all bacteria.

Before you claim you will go to heaven in spite of being atheist against Jesus, you'd best research the studies of Near Death Experiences, especially the study done on Vietnam war NDEs.
Been there done that. Atheists as well have NDE'S and other faiths as well. The key words hear are NEAR DEATH. No one has ever come back from the REAL place to describe it. For more on NDE'S try this link.
http://www.near-death.com/
I never said Hells' Angels is a freemason lodge, but their president Ralph "Sonny" Barger IS a mason who displayed a masonic plaque in the tv documentary.
One bad apple doesn't ruin the tree. Displaying of Masonic plaques means squat. I hope you are not implying that because he has a plaque that he is a Mason.

The mafia is not formally a lodge either, BUT is founded and controlled by freemasons, and is a fast track path to 33rd, since mafia isn't naive about the nature of what they joined.
You don't have a clue about what a 33rd degree master mason is. You don't need a fast track to be a 33rd. It simply doesn't take that much time.The mafia is concerned about profits not their fellow man.

Masons are required to infiltrate any religion, (as Reznwerks did CF) and to believe there is a God, not believe IN God. Skull & Bones is no Christian club, yet Bush attends church for a false fascade. Since you support masonic lies, why do you reject God?
Sorry but you are wrong again. Masons don't recruit and you would be hard pressed to show that they do. One must ask to be initiated into the craft. I don't know much about Skull and Bones and neither do you since you are not a member. I reject the bible God because their is no evidence of his existance. I am still open on the possibility of a creator existing but not getting involved in mans affairs but still the odds of a creator of any type existing are not in favor.

 

[Ephesians 6:12]

Freemasons murdered Morgan etc.

All sorts of frauds claim to be Christian. (John 16:2-3, 1 John 2:18-19). Obviously reading up on Hitler (Mein Kampf) is your kind of reading. I'll not waste my time following Hitler for you.

So what if Mazzini isn't mentioned in some sources? Google the name, and review the facts provided by 33rds to Ralph Epperson about him.

You imply that freemasons have a right to torture people to death for not supporting torturing people to death. Once the initiate learns the horrific truth, it's too late to unjoin, as Captain Morgan learned. That is how secrecy is maintained, but I've taken no oaths. Yet I've been repeatedly threatened with the same fate.

Enemies of God have motive to arrange denial of the HISTORIC ancient record of Publius Lentius. But I can think of no motive to fake his letter to Rome about Jesus in the first place. Lies and slander are tools of evil.

You said about Barger that one bad apple don't mean they are all bad? HAHAHA! HELLS' ANGELS very name says they are PURE EVIL, all of them! Barger's masonic plaque is all the evidence I need that masonry is also PURE EVIL. Barger admitted they do contract murders on tv, confident that masonic run gov wouldn't use it against the club! "Scot-free" is no myth!

And I never said that masons recruit, they infiltrate and destroy, like you are doing at CF. But they did try to recruit me, and I backed out when I learned about the abomination initiation ritual.

I was formerly a professional outlaw. I've dealt with Hells' Angels and the mafia, and NSA. The worst of baby snatching criminals are freemasons in those "Scot-free" enemy of the Constitution militia gangs. Satanic rituals are freemason inventions based on Baalist ritual murders, as practiced by freemasons at Bohemian Grove (infowars.com).

You defend the indefensible. You can't even admit I'm right about Elisha beating science to knowledge of using salt to destroy bacteria!

Bible prophecies have proven accurate MANY times already; about the crucifixion, & history of Israel, and salt, and scientifically accurate projections of effects of major meteoric events, & black holes Isaiah 34:4. The Bible called the earth a globe while men believed the earth was flat!

The predicted tribulation will utterly CONDEMN the freemasons' world of corruption and lies to hell, and soon, as evidenced by unprecidented numbers of new comets and asteroids in recent years. The sun was hit in 1998, and twice in 2000 by new comets (jmccanneyscience.com).

Even the evil will have an after-life, but justice can be as heartless as the freemasons practice of torture killing shows!

 

[reznwerks]

Re: Freemasons murdered Morgan etc.

All sorts of frauds claim to be Christian. (John 16:2-3, 1 John 2:18-19). Obviously reading up on Hitler (Mein Kampf) is your kind of reading. I'll not waste my time following Hitler for you.
You must have an exciting life. You make your own rules make up your own evidence and anything that goes against your percieved reality must be false. LOL

So what if Mazzini isn't mentioned in some sources? Google the name, and review the facts provided by 33rds to Ralph Epperson about him.
So what? LOL

You imply that freemasons have a right to torture people to death for not supporting torturing people to death. Once the initiate learns the horrific truth, it's too late to unjoin, as Captain Morgan learned. That is how secrecy is maintained, but I've taken no oaths. Yet I've been repeatedly threatened with the same fate.
The only threat you have experienced was conjured up by your imagination.

Enemies of God have motive to arrange denial of the HISTORIC ancient record of Publius Lentius. But I can think of no motive to fake his letter to Rome about Jesus in the first place. Lies and slander are tools of evil.
If it was historic is would be rather easy to document. It's not.

You said about Barger that one bad apple don't mean they are all bad? HAHAHA! HELLS' ANGELS very name says they are PURE EVIL, all of them! Barger's masonic plaque is all the evidence I need that masonry is also PURE EVIL. Barger admitted they do contract murders on tv, confident that masonic run gov wouldn't use it against the club! "Scot-free" is no myth!
You admitted the Hells Angels weren't a masonic lodge. LOL

And I never said that masons recruit, they infiltrate and destroy, like you are doing at CF. But they did try to recruit me, and I backed out when I learned about the abomination initiation ritual.
They can't infiltrate. You have to go to them. Christians are infiltrating them not the other way around. LOL

I was formerly a professional outlaw. I've dealt with Hells' Angels and the mafia, and NSA. The worst of baby snatching criminals are freemasons in those "Scot-free" enemy of the Constitution militia gangs. Satanic rituals are freemason inventions based on Baalist ritual murders, as practiced by freemasons at Bohemian Grove (infowars.com).
"Profession outlaw" LOL LOL LOL Did you remember to come clean with the IRS for any profits you made while a "PRO" or did you think that confessing to God was all you needed to do? You need to settle up with the IRS and maybe law enforcement for any crimes you committed. Not to do so is gutless especially when one to be close to God. He knows your inner thoughts and motives.

You defend the indefensible. You can't even admit I'm right about Elisha beating science to knowledge of using salt to destroy bacteria!
WOW!!LOL LOL LOL

Bible prophecies have proven accurate MANY times already; about the crucifixion, & history of Israel, and salt, and scientifically accurate projections of effects of major meteoric events, & black holes Isaiah 34:4. The Bible called the earth a globe while men believed the earth was flat!
No there not. Only those who want to believe is it proof. Anyone that looks at the reasons why they are not never go back to believing in them. You are probably afraid to look and I don't blame you.
Here read em and weep.
1 Chronicles 16:30: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.â€Â

Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ...â€Â

Psalm 96:10: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ...â€Â

Psalm 104:5: “Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken.â€Â

Isaiah 45:18: “...who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast...â€Â






The predicted tribulation will utterly CONDEMN the freemasons' world of corruption and lies to hell, and soon, as evidenced by unprecidented numbers of new comets and asteroids in recent years. The sun was hit in 1998, and twice in 2000 by new comets (jmccanneyscience.com).
It will be hit by many more in the future and probably hit by many more in the past. That is if we really could see a comet survive to hit the sun.

Even the evil will have an after-life, but justice can be as heartless as the freemasons practice of torture killing shows!
I take it you don't like the Masons. LOL

 

[Ephesians 6:12]

Atheist infiltrator Reznwerks

You said; So what; that modern Satanism and its' rituals are the creation of freemasons Lavey & Crowley, based on Baalist murder rituals; and so what that freemason Mazzini founded the child snatching Italian mafia; and so what that Hells Angels pres Barger displayed his masonic award plaque as he admitted they do contract killings without fear of gov action.

You say I imagined the many threats of being tortured in a masonic show, as they did to Captain Morgan in the 1800s. That don't make it so. You aren't witness to anything, much less my life story.

You deny Publius Lentius ever existed so that you can deny Christ ever existed, which is exactly why the reality of Publius Lentius is disputed by some in the first place. But the letter to Rome, authentic or not is a fact that caused Rome to summon Jesus. When they learned that Jesus had been crucified, they sent for Pontius Pilate instead and beheaded him. Freemason agenda of rewriting history is apparent in that story.

The legal statute of limitations is expired on my former activities, so I can speak freely about it. Want names? Colacurcio mafia family owns the Talents West stripper club circuit, and their appointed crime boss is Norm Adams, who tried to kill a woman at Green River in 1984 when she left my bed, to try to frame me. She escaped using her high heel as a weapon. Gov covered up the evidence in the name of national security fraud, and threatened us both. Mafia motive is getting rid of streetwalker competition to their stripper clubs. Ridgeway took the rap for all the murders, though only charged with 4, in a deal to escape the death penalty.

I'm witness to, and know too much about alot of things, which is why a mafia lieutenant tried to recruit me into the back door of freemasonry via the mafia. I've survived attempts on my life, and you guessed right, I hate freemasons, with passion.

The verses you quoted are totally irrelevant. You bear false witness in denying the Bible knew all along the earth is round. Latin Vulgate version has the clearest wording of Isaiah 40:22; "It is he that sitteth upon the globe of the earth". See also Isaiah 24:1 and Job 38:13.