[__ Science __ ] Evolution Is a Scientific Law?

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Dissecting the claim that evolution is more than a theory.

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[Barbarian]

Dissecting the claim that evolution is more than a theory.

Evolution Is a Scientific Law?​

A law is less than a theory. This is middle school science. What's wrong with those guys?

A scientific law is what scientists expect to see under certain circumstances. It predicts things, but does not explain them.

Newton's laws of motion, for example. They predict what we see, but do not explain why.

Newton's Theory of Gravitation is a complete theory; it predicts things, but also explains why. Kepler's laws of planetary motion make the same predictions as Newton's theory. But Newton's theory explains why it happens and therefore extends the usefulness of gravitation from planets to moons to spacecraft, to apples falling from trees.

Laws are weaker things than theories.

You would think these guys would spend a little time learning about science so they could talk about it without making errors like this.

 

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A law is less than a theory. This is middle school science. What's wrong with those guys?

A scientific law is what scientists expect to see under certain circumstances. It predicts things, but does not explain them.

Newton's laws of motion, for example. They predict what we see, but do not explain why.

Newton's Theory of Gravitation is a complete theory; it predicts things, but also explains why. Kepler's laws of planetary motion make the same predictions as Newton's theory. But Newton's theory explains why it happens and therefore extends the usefulness of gravitation from planets to moons to spacecraft, to apples falling from trees.

Laws are weaker things than theories.

You would think these guys would spend a little time learning about science so they could talk about it without making errors like this.

Why would laws be weaker things than theories?

 

[Barbarian]

Why would laws be weaker things than theories?

See above. Kepler's Laws predict planetary motions. Newton's theory of gravity predicts and explains the planetary motions.

Laws merely predict things. Theories predict and explain things.

 

[Barbarian]

That's not all that's wrong with the AIG article...

"For Christians, evolution almost always conjures images of protoplasm turning into people over billions of years."

Most Christians know better than this, if they were paying attention in biology class. Christians aren't more ignorant than other people.

"This is the definition that directly contradicts Scripture."

Actually, it doesn't. But it does contradict science; evolution isn't about the beginning of cellular life. It's always possible that the writer just doesn't know what "protoplasm" means. But still...

"Thankfully, the authors supplied and elaborated on their term evolution by natural selection. In short, in their minds, evolution by natural selection is the process by which organisms reproduce, pass on variable traits, and compete for resources.3 It’s very similar to the definition I learned for the “process of evolution” in my college Biology 102 course. It’s also readily observable."

Precisely, it's a change in allele frequencies in a population of living things. So yes, a fact that's directly observed.

"Uh oh. "

It's been a tough few decades for AIG. They do now admit the evolution of new species and genera, but that's not really going to help much.

" Wrong. Why? Because evolution means different things in different contexts."

What matters is what it means in science. What AIG dreams up and calls "evolution" is of no consequence outside of the religion of YE creationism. Here's some more confusion...

"The most basic criterion of scientific fact is observation. It’s a bit difficult to advance something as a scientific fact when it fails to meet this fundamental standard."

Once, I had to learn to do fire investigations. Even if an investigator was not there to watch the building burn, his observation of evidence left behind tells him what actually happened. That's how science works. Which seems to be a mystery to AIG.

'“Why don’t more people accept what you’re saying? Why doesn’t the mainstream scientific community believe you?” It’s a common question. With a little reflection, it’s also easy to answer. For most scientists, the mainstream education system bends over backward to ensure that students—from kindergarten through graduate school—are never exposed to creationist thinking, evidences, and discoveries.'

The first thing a cult tells you, is "everyone else is lying."

 

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Why don’t more people accept what you’re saying? Why doesn’t the mainstream scientific community believe you?” It’s a common question. With a little reflection, it’s also easy to answer. For most scientists, the mainstream education system bends over backward to ensure that students—from kindergarten through graduate school—are never exposed to creationist thinking, evidences, and discoveries.'

The first thing a cult tells you, is "everyone else is lying."

Sounds like the Usa public education is a cult then, since they work hard to keep students in a BioEvo Bubble.

 

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Sounds like the Usa public education is a cult then, since they work hard to keep students in a BioEvo Bubble.

Actually, I don't remember every being taught evolution in high school. Kind of a conservative area, and I guess they just decided it wasn't worth the hassle. I knew about evolution from reading in the library. And no one there ever told me that creationists were lying. But of course, I've heard YE creationists accuse everyone else of lying many, many times.

Which is the point, after all. AIG, being a cult, accuses everyone else of lying. It's how we know.

 

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AIG, being a cult, accuse everyone else of lying. It's how we know.

Do you really think that is all there is to whether something is a cult?

And besides, tell me where they accused "EVERYONE" else.

 

[Barbarian]

Do you really think that is all there is to whether something is a cult?

It's the first thing a cult will tell you. Diagnostic for cults. And so they declare that public schools and universities, and scientists and scholars are all lying to us to keep us in an "evobubble."

It's what cults do.