[_ Old Earth _] Evolution Sunday

[reznwerks]

Stymied by a federal judge in their attempt to inject religious dogma into the public school science classroom, proponents of “intelligent design†are now staring down the barrel of another humiliation. On Sunday, churches throughout America will open their arms and embrace the theory of evolution.

The brainchild of Wisconsin biology professor Michael Zimmerman,
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http://www.science-spirit.org/article_d ... cle_id=591

 

[Khristeeanos]

Stymied by a federal judge in their attempt to inject religious dogma into the public school science classroom, proponents of “intelligent design†are now staring down the barrel of another humiliation. On Sunday, churches throughout America will open their arms and embrace the theory of evolution.

The brainchild of Wisconsin biology professor Michael Zimmerman,
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http://www.science-spirit.org/article_d ... cle_id=591

"inject religious dogma" ?


LOL!!!

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To say that there is a God who created the world has nothing to do with religion. :roll:

Religious dogma would be if they required every student to take a class on why Jesus is the Son of God or how Islam should be followed.

Religious dogma would be if they required every student to take a class on how, even though there is no way to prove past events, science has "proven" that the world came about by chance, even when there is proof that information doesn't come about on its own.

In other words, evolution theory is the religious dogma that is in the classrooms. :

 

[ArtGuy]

To say that there is a God who created the world has nothing to do with religion. :roll:

re·li·gion
n.

1. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.

The dictionary would beg to differ with you.

 

[Khristeeanos]

To say that there is a God who created the world has nothing to do with religion. :roll:

re·li·gion
n.

1. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.

The dictionary would beg to differ with you.

The Declaration of Independance makes a reference to God and to our Creator and the U. S. Constitution says that Congress will make no law establishing a religion.

So just saying that there is a God and Creator of us all has nothing to do with a specific religion.

 

[cubedbee]

The Declaration of Independance makes a reference to God and to our Creator and the U. S. Constitution says that Congress will make no law establishing a religion.

So just saying that there is a God and Creator of us all has nothing to do with a specific religion.

The Delcration of Indpendence was written before the Constitution, was not written by Congreess, and is not a law.

So, while I agree with you that acknowledging that there is a Creator does not constitute religion, your reasoning provided doesn't really support this fact.

 

[ArtGuy]

So just saying that there is a God and Creator of us all has nothing to do with a specific religion.

A specific religion? No. Religion in general? Certainly. It would only have nothing to do with religion if every single person believed in a God who created the universe.

Saying that the universe was created by God is exactly as religious as saying that there is no God. They are both statements pertaining to religion, and neither belong in the classroom.

 

[Khristeeanos]

The Declaration of Independance makes a reference to God and to our Creator and the U. S. Constitution says that Congress will make no law establishing a religion.

So just saying that there is a God and Creator of us all has nothing to do with a specific religion.

The Delcration of Indpendence was written before the Constitution, was not written by Congreess, and is not a law.

So, while I agree with you that acknowledging that there is a Creator does not constitute religion, your reasoning provided doesn't really support this fact.

Can you tell me who were the writers of the two documents listed please?

 

[Khristeeanos]

A specific religion? No. Religion in general? Certainly. It would only have nothing to do with religion if every single person believed in a God who created the universe.

Saying that the universe was created by God is exactly as religious as saying that there is no God. They are both statements pertaining to religion, and neither belong in the classroom.

Evolution is also a religion and doesn't belong in the classroom either.

Religion attempts to answer major questions like:

1. How did we get here?
2. What is the purpose of my existance?
3. Is there an afterlife?

Those are just three examples and evolution cannot answer any of those questions scientifically.

The obvious conclusion is that evolution is a religion - a tax-supported religion.

 

[ArtGuy]

Evolution is also a religion and doesn't belong in the classroom either.

Evolution is as much of a religion as relativity, gravitation, and quantum mechanics. While I don't necessarily buy it, I at least can discern between a "religion" and a "scientific theory".

Religion attempts to answer major questions like:

1. How did we get here?
2. What is the purpose of my existance?
3. Is there an afterlife?

Those are just three examples and evolution cannot answer any of those questions scientifically.

Yeah, so? "How did we get here" has multiple interpretations. For example, I got to where I am now via car. That is a concrete, scientific answer. Beyond that, I am here because my parents had sex, and the union of sperm and egg produced me in all my glory. Both of those are answers to "how did I get here", and neither of them are religious. Evolution seeks to answer the question of how we got here in a secular and scientific manner, by exploring the method by which God created us. Just as gravitation is the secular explanation for how God makes us stick to the ground, evolution is the secular explanation for how God made people.

As to the latter two questions, no, evolution can't answer that. But it doesn't try to. Evolution has nothing to do with higher purpose and the afterlife. At all.

The obvious conclusion is that evolution is a religion - a tax-supported religion.

You know, you can disagree with something without having to lob hyperbolic polemic at it. I don't much care for high taxes, but I can disagree with them without having to call them unconstitutional affronts to God, or whatnot.