Foxes Book Of Martyrs

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:cry: A book once a requirement at Christian seminaries has become an eye sore and a blemish.
Our brothers and sisters endured trials the likes of which I'm afraid will be repeated in the near future. Children were not even immune, when our bibles tell us that we are sinners with a heart as black and evil, that is of the devil himself. Jesus said to the crowd, ye are of your father the devil, he meant just that..

http://www.reformed.org/master/index.ht ... rtyrs.html

In His Service,
turnorburn
 
Anybody not familiar with this book will find it very unnerving when it comes to certain entries. Those entries will be omitted unless a sticky is made explaining or suggesting parental guidance
for those under a select age group. I have already omitted the earliest entries, those of the church as she went through that period of Rome when the Caesars were gods, one Herod when proclaimed to be a god and accepted the title was immediately eaten by worms, falling dead on the spot. :oops:



An Account of the Inquisition
When the reformed religion began to diffuse the Gospel light throughout Europe, Pope Innocent III entertained great fear for the Romish Church. He accordingly instituted a number of inquisitors, or persons who were to make inquiry after, apprehend, and punish, heretics, as the reformed were called by the papists.

At the head of these inquisitors was one Dominic, who had been canonized by the pope, in order to render his authority the more respectable. Dominic, and the other inquisitors, spread themselves into various Roman Catholic countries, and treated the Protestants with the utmost severity. In process of time, the pope, not finding these roving inquisitors so useful as he had imagined, resolved upon the establishment of fixed and regular courts of Inquisition. After the order for these regular courts, the first office of Inquisition was established in the city of Toulouse, and Dominic became the first regular inquisitor, as he had before been the first roving inquisitor.

Courts of Inquisition were now erected in several countries; but the Spanish Inquisition became the most powerful, and the most dreaded of any. Even the kings of Spain themselves, though arbitrary in all other respects, were taught to dread the power of the lords of the Inquisition; and the horrid cruelties they exercised compelled multitudes, who differed in opinion from the Roman Catholics, carefully to conceal their sentiments.

The most zealous of all the popish monks, and those who most implicitly obeyed the Church of Rome, were the Dominicans and Franciscans: these, therefore, the pope thought proper to invest with an exclusive right of presiding over the different courts of Inquisition, and gave them the most unlimited powers, as judges delegated by him, and immediately representing his person: they were permitted to excommunicate, or sentence to death whom they thought proper, upon the most slight information of heresy. They were allowed to publish crusades against all whom they deemed heretics, and enter into leagues with sovereign princes, to join their crusades with their forces.

My intention here isn't for personal gain, satisfaction or any selfish reasons, its to open the eyes of those that don't fully understand the true nature of persecution and what it is. Our Lord and savior Jesus Christ made the statement, they have persecuted me, and they will persecute you.
A servant is not above his master, the following is the history of his church, and the trials of fire that our brothers and sisters went through. If a Moderator or Administration deems this thread unfit, please step foreword and voice your concerns and opinions..

In His Service,
turnorburn
 
The following is an account of an auto da fe, performed at Madrid in the year 1682.
The officers of the Inquisition, preceded by trumpets, kettledrums, and their banner, marched on the thirtieth of May, in cavalcade, to the palace of the great square, where they declared by proclamation, that, on the thirtieth of June, the sentence of the prisoners would be put in execution.

Of these prisoners, twenty men and women, with one renegade Mahometan, were ordered to be burned; fifty Jews and Jewesses, having never before been imprisoned, and repenting of their crimes, were sentenced to a long confinement, and to wear a yellow cap. The whole court of Spain was present on this occasion. The grand inquisitor's chair was placed in a sort of tribunal far above that of the king.

Among those who were to suffer, was a young Jewess of exquisite beauty, and but seventeen years of age. Being on the same side of the scaffold where the queen was seated, she addressed her, in hopes of obtaining a pardon, in the following pathetic speech: "Great queen, will not your royal presence be of some service to me in my miserable condition? Have regard to my youth; and, oh! consider, that I am about to die for professing a religion imbibed from my earliest infancy!" Her majesty seemed greatly to pity her distress, but turned away her eyes, as she did not dare to speak a word in behalf of a person who had been declared a heretic.

Now Mass began, in the midst of which the priest came from the altar, placed himself near the scaffold, and seated himself in a chair prepared for that purpose.

The chief inquisitor then descended from the amphitheater, dressed in his cope, and having a miter on his head. After having bowed to the altar, he advanced towards the king's balcony, and went up to it, attended by some of his officers, carrying a cross and the Gospels, with a book containing the oath by which the kings of Spain oblige themselves to protect the Catholic faith, to extirpate heretics, and to support with all their power and force the prosecutions and decrees of the Inquisition: a like oath was administered to the counsellors and whole assembly. The Mass was begun about twelve at noon, and did not end until nine in the evening, being protracted by a proclamation of the sentence of the several criminals, which were already separately rehearsed aloud one after the other.

After this followed the burnings of the twenty-one men and women, whose intrepidity in suffering that horrid death was truly astonishing. The king's near situation to the criminals rendered their dying groans very audible to him; he could not, however, be absent from this dreadful scene, as it is esteemed a religious one; and his coronation oath obliged him to give a sanction by his presence to all the acts of the tribunal.

What we have already said may be applied to inquisitions in general, as well as to that of Spain in particular. The Inquisition belonging to Portugal is exactly upon a similar plan to that of Spain, having been instituted much about the same time, and put under the same regulations. The inquisitors allow the torture to be used only three times, but during those times it is so severely inflicted, that the prisoner either dies under it, or continues always after a cripple, and suffers the severest pains upon every change of weather. We shall give an ample description of the severe torments occasioned by the torture, from the account of one who suffered it the three respective times, but happily survived the cruelties he underwent.

At the first time of torturing, six executioners entered, stripped him naked to his drawers, and laid him upon his back on a kind of stand, elevated a few feet from the floor. The operation commenced by putting an iron collar round his neck, and a ring to each foot, which fastened him to the stand. His limbs being thus stretched out, they wound two ropes round each thigh; which ropes being passed under the scaffold, through holes made for that purpose, were all drawn tight at the same instant of time, by four of the men, on a given signal.

It is easy to conceive that the pains which immediately succeeded were intolerable; the ropes, which were of a small size, cut through the prisoner's flesh to the bone, making the blood to gush out at eight different places thus bound at a time. As the prisoner persisted in not making any confession of what the inquisitors required, the ropes were drawn in this manner four times successively.
 
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Oh well, we'll find out all about the martyrs when Christ returns, in heaven they asked God when their deaths and suffering would be avenged, and Jesus said after "they have suffered the way you have" that means us guys :oops:
 
this book is grossly inaccurate. Does any one read history anymore? Or do we just fill in the blanks?.... I'm sure your you're a man of God, I do not question that. I just question your belief in such falsehoods

St Dominic Pray for us
 
I have seen this posted at more than just a few sites and every time without fail a Catholic steps in and protests it, just the Catholics, are you a Catholic? Care to tell me why this is?
 
Foxe’s so-called story of the persecutions of the reformers resulted in the publication of a Latin work dealing mainly with Wyclifism. While at Basle he was supplied by Grindal with reports of the persecution in England and in 1559 he published a large Latin folio of 740 pages which began with Wyclif and ended with Cranmer. After his return to England he began to translate this book and to add to it the results of fresh information. The "Acts and Monuments" were finally published in 1563 but came almost immediately to he known as the "Book of Martyrs". The criticism which the work called forth led to the publication of a "corrected" edition in 1570. Two more (1576 and 1583) came out during his life and five (1596, 1610, 1632, 1641, 1684) within the next hundred years. There have been two modern editions, both unsatisfactory.

The fantastically partisan church history of the earlier portion of the book, with its grotesque false stories of popes and monks and its motley succession of bogus witnesses to the truth was accepted among simple folk and must have contributed much to anti-Catholic prejudices in England. When Foxe treats of his own times, he uses many documents and the reports of eyewitnesses, but he dishonestly mutilates his documents and is quite untrustworthy in his treatment of evidence. He was criticized in his own day by scholars such as Harpsfield and Father Parsons and by practically all serious ecclesiastical historians.

To put it bluntly, the book is a twisted morass of falsehoods and half truths.
 
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Make you ashamed your involved with them does it? They have been making excuses for that period in history, but that's just it, "It is history"

Back in the 70's we had a guild as we went down into Mexico, for those that
don't know 99.99% of the people are Catholic. Our guild was a spirit filled Christian, both he and his brother were warned not to preach Christ to those Catholics, then it happened Carlos and his brother were murdered by the long
arm of their law, "The Jesuits" just because they obeyed Christ rather than man.

Foxes Book Of Martyrs? a hoax?? I don't think so... :oops:

In His Service,
turnorburn
 
turnorburn said:
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Make you ashamed your involved with them does it? They have been making excuses for that period in history, but that's just it, "It is history"

Back in the 70's we had a guild as we went down into Mexico, for those that
don't know 99.99% of the people are Catholic. Our guild was a spirit filled Christian, both he and his brother were warned not to preach Christ to those Catholics, then it happened Carlos and his brother were murdered by the long
arm of their law, "The Jesuits" just because they obeyed Christ rather than man.

Foxes Book Of Martyrs? a hoax?? I don't think so... :oops:

In His Service,
turnorburn

aah... what saddens me is that you believe this garbage.....well you should stop believing the devils lies, fight the devil don't fight for him!
 
The world in its unbelief has allow a great deception to come upon it. The church should be ashamed, as in the signature you say, "Christ and him crucified"
I believe that as well but my brother you have allowed yourself to be deceived.
Your blasphemous ceremony the mass brings Christ down from glory so you may crucify him unto yourselves. Do you practice this mass? if you do repent before your damnation is made sure. Just think?

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turnorburn said:
The world in its unbelief has allow a great deception to come upon it. The church should be ashamed, as in the signature you say, "Christ and him crucified"
I believe that as well but my brother you have allowed yourself to be deceived.
Your blasphemous ceremony the mass brings Christ down from glory so you may crucify him unto yourselves. Do you practice this mass? if you do repent before your damnation is made sure. Just think?

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I Love the Mass. I go daily. I also go to adoration as often as possible. :D I think you should repent as Paul did because you're acting like him before the Lord knocked him of his donkey.


and the inquisition was necessary ...no apologies here :-D maybe another catholic would say they were bad but not me. There were abuses but they were needed.
 
Now I understand, you my friend are not in your right mind and for that reason our
chats are finished. "That goes for any thread"
 
turnorburn said:
Now I understand, you my friend are not in your right mind and for that reason our
chats are finished. "That goes for any thread"
Does Jesus teach that? Where is that scripture verse?
 
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