[_ Old Earth _] God proves His existence through His creation

[Nick597]

Psalm 19:14 "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth His handywork."

 

[Dunzo]

"Who has created the heavens and the earth, and Who sends down for you water from the sky? Yea, with it We cause to grow well-planted orchards full of beauty and delight: it never has been yours to cause to grow. Could there be another god besides Allah? Nay, but they are people who swerve from justice."

I couldn't agree more. Allah definitely created the universe.

 

[John]

"Who has created the heavens and the earth, and Who sends down for you water from the sky? Yea, with it We cause to grow well-planted orchards full of beauty and delight: it never has been yours to cause to grow. Could there be another god besides Allah? Nay, but they are people who swerve from justice."

I couldn't agree more. Allah definitely created the universe.

OMG LMAO Allah, wow i nearly crapped my pants from laughing when i read that.

 

[freeway]

And to think I didn't think Dunzo had a sense of humor...

 

[Dunzo]

The point is that for whatever evidence you claim to be evidence for creation of the universe by the christian god (of which there is none), it can also be used as evidence for creation of the universe by the Islamic god, Allah. Are you sure you don't actually believe in Allah by mistake? The firmament showeth His handywork!

 

[John]

The point is that for whatever evidence you claim to be evidence for creation of the universe by the christian god (of which there is none), it can also be used as evidence for creation of the universe by the Islamic god, Allah. Are you sure you don't actually believe in Allah by mistake? The firmament showeth His handywork!

We should make a whole thread else where to debate the existence of allah

 

[freeway]

but again point is ID, not ToE..

 

[Orion]

Dunzo, I think they completely missed what you were trying to point out here. :-? Surely, a person wouldn't be that ignorant.

Nature doesn't not speak to any particular religion.

 

[Heidi]

"Who has created the heavens and the earth, and Who sends down for you water from the sky? Yea, with it We cause to grow well-planted orchards full of beauty and delight: it never has been yours to cause to grow. Could there be another god besides Allah? Nay, but they are people who swerve from justice."

I couldn't agree more. Allah definitely created the universe.

Actually, all life came from ooze. Or better yet, from Mars, as scientists are now claiming. : Talk about fairy tales. The stories of scientists are becoming as diverse as they are desperate. ;-)

 

[Orion]

But God still doesn't PROVE his existance through creation. If he does, . . . . he is proving that the words in the bible cannot be trusted. I've expected as much, anyway.

 

[Heidi]

But God still doesn't PROVE his existance through creation. If he does, . . . . he is proving that the words in the bible cannot be trusted. I've expected as much, anyway.

Of course God proves His existence through what has been made. Scientists themselves acknowledge that the world works on a cause-effect basis which means that it is ordered and designed because order doesn't come from chaos. Even Einstein admitted there has to be a God because of the miraculous way the universe is ordered. He just never knew who God was. God also tells us that he is unseen. So proof of his existence can only come through the order and design of what He made.