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Mary Mother of God - is not God

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Mary Mother of God - is not God

For those who worship Mary the mother of Jesus, please stop. Below is a short synopsis of the basic belief by those Catholics that Mary, as the Mother of God, should be deified. It is all predicated on Mary sharing her own genetic material with Jesus Christ and as such being imparted with some God like characteristics. But many fail to see that God imparted life into man through the breath, not the body or blood.

Genesis 2:7*(New International Version, ©2010)

7 Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

As you see the essence of life comes from the breath not from any genetic material associated with the body. When Jesus was in Mary's womb he was not breathing therefore not sharing his Holy 'sinless' breath with Mary. Therefore Mary could never share Jesus Christ's breath and be infused with any Godly characteristics. Mary was as human as anyone else and had not gained any sinless characteristics because she shared her blood, or any other genetic material, with the infant Jesus in her womb. Jesus Christ took his first sinless breath outside of the womb, not inside, so Mary received no special spiritual benefit from carrying the infant Jesus in her womb and as such had no special God like sinless characteristics transferred to her.

God Bless

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Mary: Mother of God


Fundamentalists are sometimes horrified when the Virgin Mary is referred to as the Mother of God. However, their reaction often rests upon a misapprehension of not only what this particular title of Mary signifies but also who Jesus was, and what their own theological forebears, the Protestant Reformers, had to say regarding this doctrine.

A woman is a man’s mother either if she carried him in her womb or if she was the woman contributing half of his genetic matter or both. Mary was the mother of Jesus in both of these senses; because she not only carried Jesus in her womb but also supplied all of the genetic matter for his human body, since it was through her—not Joseph—that Jesus "was descended from David according to the flesh" (Rom. 1:3).

Since Mary is Jesus’ mother, it must be concluded that she is also the Mother of God: If Mary is the mother of Jesus, and if Jesus is God, then Mary is the Mother of God. There is no way out of this logical syllogism, the valid form of which has been recognized by classical logicians since before the time of Christ.

Although Mary is the Mother of God, she is not his mother in the sense that she is older than God or the source of her Son’s divinity, for she is neither. Rather, we say that she is the Mother of God in the sense that she carried in her womb a divine person—Jesus Christ, God "in the flesh" (2 John 7, cf. John 1:14)—and in the sense that she contributed the genetic matter to the human form God took in Jesus Christ.
 
So, what's the arguement here? Who is saying Mary is God, I don't understand?
 
Mary Mother of God - is not God

For those who worship Mary the mother of Jesus, please stop. Below is a short synopsis of the basic belief by those Catholics that Mary, as the Mother of God, should be deified. It is all predicated on Mary sharing her own genetic material with Jesus Christ and as such being imparted with some God like characteristics. But many fail to see that God imparted life into man through the breath, not the body or blood.

Genesis 2:7*(New International Version, ©2010)

7 Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

As you see the essence of life comes from the breath not from any genetic material associated with the body. When Jesus was in Mary's womb he was not breathing therefore not sharing his Holy 'sinless' breath with Mary. Therefore Mary could never share Jesus Christ's breath and be infused with any Godly characteristics. Mary was as human as anyone else and had not gained any sinless characteristics because she shared her blood, or any other genetic material, with the infant Jesus in her womb. Jesus Christ took his first sinless breath outside of the womb, not inside, so Mary received no special spiritual benefit from carrying the infant Jesus in her womb and as such had no special God like sinless characteristics transferred to her.

God Bless

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From : Mary: Mother of God


Mary: Mother of God


Fundamentalists are sometimes horrified when the Virgin Mary is referred to as the Mother of God. However, their reaction often rests upon a misapprehension of not only what this particular title of Mary signifies but also who Jesus was, and what their own theological forebears, the Protestant Reformers, had to say regarding this doctrine.

A woman is a man’s mother either if she carried him in her womb or if she was the woman contributing half of his genetic matter or both. Mary was the mother of Jesus in both of these senses; because she not only carried Jesus in her womb but also supplied all of the genetic matter for his human body, since it was through her—not Joseph—that Jesus "was descended from David according to the flesh" (Rom. 1:3).

Since Mary is Jesus’ mother, it must be concluded that she is also the Mother of God: If Mary is the mother of Jesus, and if Jesus is God, then Mary is the Mother of God. There is no way out of this logical syllogism, the valid form of which has been recognized by classical logicians since before the time of Christ.

Although Mary is the Mother of God, she is not his mother in the sense that she is older than God or the source of her Son’s divinity, for she is neither. Rather, we say that she is the Mother of God in the sense that she carried in her womb a divine person—Jesus Christ, God "in the flesh" (2 John 7, cf. John 1:14)—and in the sense that she contributed the genetic matter to the human form God took in Jesus Christ.

The article you quote doesn't mention that "those Catholics" "worship" or "deify" Mary. It doesn't make the claim that she is "imparted with Godlike characteristics" either, probably because the Catholic Church doesn't teach this.

For those who twist people's words on an attempt to slam a religion, please stop.

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So, what's the arguement here? Who is saying Mary is God, I don't understand?

No one (the author of the article in particular) makes this claim. It's a classic straw-man argument.

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No one (the author of the article in particular) makes this claim. It's a classic straw-man argument.

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Hi dadof10,

Do you think there are parts of the Catholic Church where the line between 'God and Mary' has been blurred?
 
Hi dadof10,

Do you think there are parts of the Catholic Church where the line between 'God and Mary' has been blurred?

No. But there are misunderstandings about Catholic doctrines concerning Mary within Protestantism. Posts like the OP don't help. Like all true doctrines, the ones concerning Mary must be properly understood. The Catholic Church has never taught that Mary is diety or has any Godlike characteristics. Only that she was created by God for a certain purpose. Please note the word "created". She is a the most highly exaulted creature, but a creature none the less.

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No. But there are misunderstandings about Catholic doctrines concerning Mary within Protestantism. Posts like the OP don't help. Like all true doctrines, the ones concerning Mary must be properly understood. The Catholic Church has never taught that Mary is deity or has any Godlike characteristics. Only that she was created by God for a certain purpose. Please note the word "created". She is a the most highly exaulted creature, but a creature none the less.

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Hi,

There will always some differences between 'official teaching' and what individuals, groups, movements, believe. This applies to Protestants and Catholics. I'm not saying that's its official or sanctioned. Agreed there are misunderstanding and misrepresentations in the Protestant understanding of Catholic doctrine. That aside, let's look at the following:

The title 'mother of God' could be expressed as mother of Jesus Christ since Mary is not the Mother of the Father nor the Holy Spirit. The no Mary no Jesus is true (immediate cause) but so is no Adam no Mary (remote cause). No-one says no Mary no Son of God.
 
Hello UgMug,

Because we've had so many heated arguments in the past that turned into hate fests, topics that are Catholic in nature are now confined to the 1 on 1 debate forum, or, if applicable the End times forum.

If you and Dadof10 wish to continue this discussion, let me know and I'll unlock this thread and move it to the 1 on 1 debate forum.

Thanks!
 
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