Matthew 25 and 2 Chronicles 13

[SeekHisFace]

I wrote this to a family member and I wanted to share this with you what I came across in this passage concerning the unwise/wise virgins in the Old Testament ... 2 Chronicles 13.
And I wanted to tie this in with the ten virgins in the New Testament--Matthew 25.


2Ch 13:5 Ought ye not to know that the LORD God of Israel gave the kingdom over Israel to David for ever, even to him and to his sons by a covenant of salt?

Now Jeroboam had risen up to rebel and there are gathered unto him vain (worthless) men, the children (reprobates) of Belial (what shall we have in common with them 2 Cor 6:15)...they think they will stand against the kingdom of the Lord with a great multitude carrying golden calves as their gods. They had cast out the priests of the Lord and made themselves priest after the manner of the nations of other lands, being a priest of them that are no gods:

2Ch 13:10 But as for us, the LORD is our God, and we have not forsaken him; and the priests, which minister unto the LORD, are the sons of Aaron, and the Levites wait upon their business:
2Ch 13:11 And they burn unto the LORD every morning and every evening burnt sacrifices (offerings) and sweet incense: the shewbread also set they in order upon the pure table; and the candlestick of gold with the lamps thereof, to burn every evening: for we keep the charge of the LORD our God; but ye have forsaken him. (these two verses are about the wise virgins)

The next verse said that they have forsaken him. And tells them --do not fight against the Lord God of your fathers...for ye shall not prosper. Judah cried out to the Lord and won. They prevailed (vs 18) because they relied upon the Lord God of their fathers.

Now who was it that lost?

2Ch 13:15 Then the men of Judah gave a shout: and as the men of Judah shouted, it came to pass, that God smote Jeroboam and all Israel before Abijah and Judah.
2Ch 13:16 And the children of Israel fled before Judah: and God delivered them into their hand.

Israel. There have been and will be some of God's people that will be fighting against their own God (unwise virgins)

Since Jesus is our New Covenant...the lamb that was slain for us to redeem us back to the Father and to deliver from the powers of darkness...After He died on the cross the veil between the two tabernacles tore. He became High Priest in the Holy of Holies and now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises(Heb 8:6).

Moses was told to make those two tabernacles precisely and in the most correct way for when Jesus came He would fulfill the law.

When He came one fulfillment was for us to be in the first tabernacle and Jesus in the second tabernacle=the Holy of Holies:

1st tabernacle:
1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light

And since now we are the temple of God made not by hands...He is in us and we are to burn continually. Having that personal relationship with Christ being led by the Father's Spirit. We are to do the Father's will as Christ is in us--and He came to do the Father's will to show us the way.


Looking at verse 11...we know that incense is prayer,

Rev 8:3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.
Rev 8:4 And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand.

(Sacrifices can be praises, thanks, brokeness, etc---many verses in Psalms)

Candlestick (lamp) is the church(s)

Rev 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

Bread--I see this as the connection to Jesus...eating, conversing, possibly the personal relationship--(burning through prayer but not without the Holy Spirit--lamps cannot burn without the oil).

Joh 6:31 Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat.
Joh 6:32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.
Joh 6:33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.
Joh 6:34 Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread.
Joh 6:35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

Commandments/charge of the Lord still stand, but written law (does not) which includes this:Heb 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Joh 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.


Here is the passage on the two tabernacles in the New Testament

Heb 9:1 Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.
Heb 9:2 For there was a tabernacle made; the first, wherein was the candlestick, and the table, and the shewbread; which is called the sanctuary.
Heb 9:3 And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all;
Heb 9:4 Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;
Heb 9:6 Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God.
Heb 9:7 But into the second went the high priest (Jesus--not once a year but once and for all-forever) alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:


Now, I hope we can read the wise and unwise virgins and see the connection.

Mat 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which [B]took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.[/b]

(to meet the bridegroom, you will need to have a relationship with him)

Mat 25:2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
Mat 25:3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:

(notice when there is no oil...there is no light)

Mat 25:4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
Mat 25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
Mat 25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
Mat 25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
Mat 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.

(their light went out...not seeking or being led by the Holy Spirit)

Mat 25:9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
Mat 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
Mat 25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
Mat 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

And here again we will see who will prosper in this battle that we will be faced with in our lives.

Blessings in Christ..

 

[SeekHisFace]

This is copy/pasted from my files:


Summary and Conclusion (revised...September 7, 2012)

I was reading this passage in Matthew

Mat 24:48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
Mat 24:49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
Mat 24:50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
Mat 24:51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

And this runs directly into Mathew 25 that speaks of the ten virgins...I stopped at verse 3

Mat 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
Mat 25:2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
Mat 25:3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:

When I read verse three I thought..." without oil there is no light". So I researched verses with the word 'light', "lamps" and "oil" in it.......
(after listing the research verses---I have a summary and conclusion at the bottom)


Lamps in the OT and NT:

Zec_4:2 And said unto me, What seest thou? And I said, I have looked, and behold a candlestick all of gold, with a bowl upon the top of it, and his seven lamps thereon, and seven pipes to the seven lamps, which are upon the top thereof:
Exo_35:14 The candlestick also for the light, and his furniture, and his lamps, with the oil for the light,
Exo_25:37 And thou shalt make the seven lamps thereof: and they shall light the lamps thereof, that they may give light over against it.
Lev_24:2 Command the children of Israel, that they bring unto thee pure oil olive beaten for the light, to cause the lamps to burn continually.
Lev_24:4 He shall order the lamps upon the pure candlestick before the LORD continually.
Job_41:19 Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out.
Psa_119:105 NUN. Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.
Pro_6:23 For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life:
Mat_25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
Mat_25:3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
Mat_25:4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
Mat_25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
Mat_25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
Rev_4:5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

Verses for the oil

Exo_25:6 Oil for the light, spices for anointing oil, and for sweet incense,
Exo_35:8 And oil for the light, and spices for anointing oil, and for the sweet incense,
Exo_35:28 And spice, and oil for the light, and for the anointing oil, and for the sweet incense
Zec_4:12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?
Mar_6:13 And they cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them
Luk_10:34 And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.
Heb_1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
Jas_5:14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:



Verses on "light"

Isa_2:5 O house of Jacob, come ye, and let us walk in the light of the LORD.
Isa_8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
Joh_3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Joh_9:5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.
Joh_12:36 While ye have light, believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light. These things spake Jesus, and departed, and did hide himself from them.
2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
2Co_4:6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
1Jn_1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
1Jn_2:8 Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.
Rev_21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
Rev_21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
Rev_22:5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.


After reading the scriptures, I am led to believe that everything is conncected together. The Word, Oil, Power, Spirit, Light, Jesus, faith. So finally, in the scripture of the unwise virgins...they have the Word, only the Word, and nothing else. Therefore Jesus will say to them that He never knew them.


Mat 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
Mat 25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
Mat 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

The Spirit is a real big key...
Joh_3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.


Joh_3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
2Co_4:6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

Rev_21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
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[cupid dave]

The Spirit is a real big key...
Joh_3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.


Joh_3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

But the spirit is Truth,... right?

The "light" which is being referenced is Truth.
Truth is the light inside the mind of men which saves them from the lying devils and the insanity of living in man made fantasy worlds of their invention.

Right?
"I am the Truth, and the way, and the Life"...

 

[SeekHisFace]

The Spirit is a real big key...
Joh_3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.


Joh_3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

But the spirit is Truth,... right?

The "light" which is being referenced is Truth.
Truth is the light inside the mind of men which saves them from the lying devils and the insanity of living in man made fantasy worlds of their invention.

Right?
"I am the Truth, and the way, and the Life"...

Yes! That is what I am being led to!:yes

 

[cupid dave]

Yes! That is what I am being led to!

This very very big for the Churches and the world to come.

God loves us as evidenced by the gift of life and the world he has created that nurtures us and allows us to co-exist with Him, he who is the very God of the living.
God, the Father-of-all-things, is Love.

1 John 4:8
He who does not love has not become acquainted with God,for God is love.

THIS IS A GAME CHANGER.
Christ is Truth.
Christ is NOT "love" as the churches preach.
Christ is Truth.


John 14:6 Jesus saithunto him, I am the truth,… the way, and the life: no man cometh unto theFather, but by me.

 

[SeekHisFace]

Yes! That is what I am being led to!

This very very big for the Churches and the world to come.

God loves us as evidenced by the gift of life and the world he has created that nurtures us and allows us to co-exist with Him, he who is the very God of the living.
God, the Father-of-all-things, is Love.

1 John 4:8
He who does not love has not become acquainted with God,for God is love.

THIS IS A GAME CHANGER.
Christ is Truth.
Christ is NOT "love" as the churches preach.
Christ is Truth.


John 14:6 Jesus saithunto him, I am the truth,… the way, and the life: no man cometh unto theFather, but by me.

The love that the churches preach today is "tolerance". Looking at the 501C-3 churches...(to my knowledge) are not allowed to correct anyone that is deceived or in sin. Love is warning a brother or sister in truth and in the light through the Spirit that comes from our faith in Jesus.

Thank you CD...
(I use to live in CA. for many years. The last place was Monterey in the central coast. SM is a real pretty place to be. Are you actually on the coast/beach)

Blessings

 

[Deborah13]

God, the Father-of-all-things, is Love.

1 John 4:8
He who does not love has not become acquainted with God,for God is love.

THIS IS A GAME CHANGER.
Christ is Truth.
Christ is NOT "love" as the churches preach.
Christ is Truth.

John 14:7-10

New American Standard Bible (NASB)

Oneness with the Father

7 If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him.”
8 Philip *said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” 9 Jesus *said to him, “Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own initiative, but the Father abiding in Me does His works.

From these scriptures, I think it is fair for anyone to say that Jesus is love, He being exactly like the Father and in oneness with Him.

 

[SeekHisFace]

The Spirit is a real big key...
Joh_3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.


Joh_3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

But the spirit is Truth,... right?

The "light" which is being referenced is Truth.
Truth is the light inside the mind of men which saves them from the lying devils and the insanity of living in man made fantasy worlds of their invention.

Right?
"I am the Truth, and the way, and the Life"...

Here are some other verses lining up with this...

Joh_14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Joh_15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
Joh_16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
Joh_16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
Joh_17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

 

[Deborah13]

Looking at the 501C-3 churches...(to my knowledge) are not allowed to correct anyone that is deceived or in sin

No the government does not say they are not allowed to teach against sin. They are not allowed to tell people who they should vote for. They are not allowed to teach politics. Which many get around that by teaching certain types of sermons at that time of year when elections are coming up. Some do a very good job of it too. ;)

I think you did a good job of tying together scriptures. That was a lot of scripture.

I also see the oil as the Spirit that keeps the light of our Lord burning in our hearts and minds. It is this light that shines in a dark, lost world.

 

[SeekHisFace]

Joh_18:37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice

 

[SeekHisFace]

I also see the oil as the Spirit that keeps the light of our Lord burning in our hearts and minds. It is this light that shines in a dark, lost world.

Yes exactly...that is what was shown to me...also, what keeps us burning is we are the temple now...the house of prayer (praying in the Spirit) with Jesus as our High Priest.

 

[smaller]

The 'parable' of the 10 virgins is a personal account, just as every parable is.

Few understand that the entirety of the 10 virgins is speaking about each of us, personally.

It is not about 5 saved denominational 'right' christians and 5 other 'incorrect' denominational christians who are locked out.

Neither is it an account of 5 saved people vs. 5 other unbelievers.

The virgin term is deployed in part because no one hears the terms personally. We do not 'know' The Groom in this way of hearing. It is 'new' to our 'virgin ears' which have not been PIERCED to hear. It takes two ears of course to hear. Both must be pierced by The Master. There are many one eared hearers, which means they don't hear.

The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. Part of understanding the deployment of the number 10 and parables/allegories in general is to understand the Right and Left Hand of God, to which most of the text speaks to and how that matter is also applied personally.

An almost exact deployment of the parable of the 10 virgins exists in many parables. The 'separation' of the sheep and goats and nations in Matthew 25 for example is very similar. If anyone merely understands that they as believers also do factually do 'goat works' when we are not doing 'sheep works' we should come to understand that separation is also personal.

The unfortunate part of any reader of parable is the innate and immediate compulsion to paint ourselves only as the 5 right acceptable virgins only and the good sheep only.

That is the reading of a natural person with natural eyes and a natural bent to excuse and justify themselves. And understandings will remain locked away from such by Divine Intentions.

TO understand any Word of God the 'called and elect' will bow to Jesus' Deployment here and not exempt themselves from any Word of God, good or bad, Old Testament or New Testament:

Deuteronomy 8:3
And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the Lord doth man live.

Luke 4:4
And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

AND if you are seeing the world reeling on it's axis currently, know that THE CALL is in fact going OUT and the shaking commences. There will be earthquakes, which is again, a personal matter of DIVIDING the earth that is our bodies. There will be A DOOR shut and locked FIRM, but it is not a door that can be seen.

Nevertheless every matter and every account is REAL and it is personal down to the last person.

He comes to fight for you and to resist the enemies we carry in our own hearts.

enjoy!

s

 

[SeekHisFace]

God, the Father-of-all-things, is Love.

1 John 4:8
He who does not love has not become acquainted with God,for God is love.

THIS IS A GAME CHANGER.
Christ is Truth.
Christ is NOT "love" as the churches preach.
Christ is Truth.

John 14:7-10

New American Standard Bible (NASB)

Oneness with the Father

7 If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him.”
8 Philip *said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” 9 Jesus *said to him, “Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own initiative, but the Father abiding in Me does His works.

From these scriptures, I think it is fair for anyone to say that Jesus is love, He being exactly like the Father and in oneness with Him.

Yes...and the way to the Father is through Jesus...our High Priest

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Joh 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

Blessings Deborah...

 

[SeekHisFace]

The 'parable' of the 10 virgins is a personal account, just as every parable is.

Few understand that the entirety of the 10 virgins is speaking about each of us, personally.

It is not about 5 saved denominational 'right' christians and 5 other 'incorrect' denominational christians who are locked out.

Neither is it an account of 5 saved people vs. 5 other unbelievers.

The virgin term is deployed in part because no one hears the terms personally. We do not 'know' The Groom in this way of hearing. It is 'new' to our 'virgin ears' which have not been PIERCED to hear. It takes two ears of course to hear. Both must be pierced by The Master. There are many one eared hearers, which means they don't hear.

The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. Part of understanding the deployment of the number 10 and parables/allegories in general is to understand the Right and Left Hand of God, to which most of the text speaks to and how that matter is also applied personally.

An almost exact deployment of the parable of the 10 virgins exists in many parables. The 'separation' of the sheep and goats and nations in Matthew 25 for example is very similar. If anyone merely understands that they as believers also do factually do 'goat works' when we are not doing 'sheep works' we should come to understand that separation is also personal.

The unfortunate part of any reader of parable is the innate and immediate compulsion to paint ourselves only as the 5 right acceptable virgins only and the good sheep only.

That is the reading of a natural person with natural eyes and a natural bent to excuse and justify themselves. And understandings will remain locked away from such by Divine Intentions.

TO understand any Word of God the 'called and elect' will bow to Jesus' Deployment here and not exempt themselves from any Word of God, good or bad, Old Testament or New Testament:

Deuteronomy 8:3
And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the Lord doth man live.

Luke 4:4
And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

AND if you are seeing the world reeling on it's axis currently, know that THE CALL is in fact going OUT and the shaking commences. There will be earthquakes, which is again, a personal matter of DIVIDING the earth that is our bodies. There will be A DOOR shut and locked FIRM, but it is not a door that can be seen.

Nevertheless every matter and every account is REAL and it is personal down to the last person.

He comes to fight for you and to resist the enemies we carry in our own hearts.

enjoy!

s

And here you are...you never cease to amaze me. I never took it as the literal 5.
I would like to ask you if you know of any more verses that speak of us burning unto the Lord in His light...and remember there is no light without the oil.
Thank you...

 

[cupid dave]

The love that the churches preach today is "tolerance". Looking at the 501C-3 churches...(to my knowledge) are not allowed to correct anyone that is deceived or in sin. Love is warning a brother or sister in truth and in the light through the Spirit that comes from our faith in Jesus.

Thank you CD...
(I use to live in CA. for many years. The last place was Monterey in the central coast. SM is a real pretty place to be. Are you actually on the coast/beach)

Blessings

Yes, one block from the Main Street...

It is great to read what you say as the churches are confusing "love" with tolerance of evil behaviors by their kids and America, in general, under the guise of a Political Correctness Cultural empowerment that promotes and defends the lies which Christians are supposed to oppose and reveal.

The biggest lie is that Muslims are being "radicalized," when what is happening is that they are enforcing the Law or the very Torah which Jesus said was unnecessary once Truth became the new covenant.
Americans saw the same vise squeeze the lies against Civil Rights when Malcolm X on the one side pushed the riots in Watts and Philadelphia, etc against the real love of God that we would change once Rev Martin Luther King stood up for turning his cheek to the Status Quo by merely telling it as it is.

The Truth is that the Harlots of Babylon have joined forces with the Homosexual Shock troops for wide open hands off sexual promiscuity.
That Sexual License in the hands of our adolescents has resulted in terrible Child Abuse for fatherless bastard that now number one out of every two births in the USA.

While the tolerance of the Church for gays-out-in-the-open and their own daughters aborting 2/3rds of those that take place, they argue with Science about their belief concerning what Genesis says.
Better that they find Bill Cosby and support him in their churches and in public and against all those like Sharpton and Jesse Jackson who attacked him.
Cosby stood up and is still trying to tell it like it is, especially in the cities of America.

Cosby has the Truth, and the white Christian churches do NOT.

 

[cupid dave]

God, the Father-of-all-things, is Love.

1 John 4:8
He who does not love has not become acquainted with God,for God is love.

THIS IS A GAME CHANGER.
Christ is Truth.
Christ is NOT "love" as the churches preach.
Christ is Truth.

John 14:7-10

New American Standard Bible (NASB)

Oneness with the Father

7 If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him.”
8 Philip *said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” 9 Jesus *said to him, “Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own initiative, but the Father abiding in Me does His works.

From these scriptures, I think it is fair for anyone to say that Jesus is love, He being exactly like the Father and in oneness with Him.

7 If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him.”
8 Philip *said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” 9 Jesus *said to him, “Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own initiative, but the Father abiding in Me does His works.

From these scriptures, I think it is fair for anyone to say that Jesus is love, He being exactly like the Father and in oneness with Him.

You left out the previous verse, where Jesus tells us, "I am the Truth, which "is the way" for all mankind to live "the Life" granted to us.



John 14:6 Jesussaid to them, "I, (as the personification of the concept, Truth),am the way (men ought be), and the truth (corresponding withReality), and the life (eternal for our species): no Man cometh untothe Father, (almighty Reality), but by me, (Truth)"



7 If ye had knownme, (as the personification of Truth, i.e.; the ideal or concept), yeshould have known my Father, (the corresponding Force behind the almighty Reality within which all life is trapped), also: and from henceforth ye know him, (as ourReality), and have seenhim, (for Reality is congruent to Truth).

8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, showus the Father, and it sufficeth us.

9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so longtime with you, and yet hast thou not known me, (speaking only ofTruth as the spirit that saves mankind from erroneous behaviors),
Philip?... he that hath seen me, (the Truth),hath seen the Father, (the corresponding Reality which is almighty to our very existence);and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father, (when you haveseen me, i.e.; the Truth)?

John 14:10 Believest thou not that I,(Truth), am (found) in the Father,(i.e.; the Force behind the ever unfolding almighty Reality which sires Truth)?

And (that Reality),the Father (is found as His image) in me,(a mental vision corresponding to the Facts-of-Life).

The words that I speak, (the truth),unto you, I speak not of myself: but the Father, (i.e.; theReality wherein we exist), that dwelleth in me (as Truth),he does the works ( which I envision for what they are).

 

[cupid dave]

Yes...and the way to the Father is through Jesus...our High Priest

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Joh 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

The "biggie" here is that Jesus revealed to the Jews who had claimed that G-d was unknowable or at least indescribable and hence to complicated, complex, and ineffable to be understood by men and their words.
Jesus said this was not so.

He said he is the image of the Father.
They are one and the same.
Truth is congruent to Reality which sires the Truth in its ever next frame of existence.

 

[SeekHisFace]

Joh_6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Joh_7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
Joh_8:26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
Joh_8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
Joh_8:38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

 

[SeekHisFace]

Yes...and the way to the Father is through Jesus...our High Priest

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Joh 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

The "biggie" here is that Jesus revealed to the Jews who had claimed that G-d was unknowable or at least indescribable and hence to complicated, complex, and ineffable to be understood by men and their words.
Jesus said this was not so.

He said he is the image of the Father.
They are one and the same.
Truth is congruent to Reality which sires the Truth in its ever next frame of existence.

They are one in Spirit and truth. He came to testify of the Father---the Father sent Him.
Yes...He is the image of the Father...but not saying that He is the Father....

 

[smaller]

And here you are...you never cease to amaze me. I never took it as the literal 5.

Never said you did. It was only an observation on my part of one possible aspect of the account which same is richly filled with many aspects.

I would like to ask you if you know of any more verses that speak of us burning unto the Lord in His light...and remember there is no light without the oil.
Thank you...

The candle of the Lord burns internally in His Own.

It lights our internal darkness.

The oil carries many connections. More than I care to share at the moment. All good though.

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