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[__ Prayer __] Medics, supplies reach boys soccer team trapped in Thailand cave as rescue planning intensifies

I read that it takes skilled divers 5 hours to get to where these kids are. Man that's some cave!!
 
Razeontherock said:
I read that it takes skilled divers 5 hours to get to where these kids are. Man that's some cave!!
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Cave diving is quite dangerous. I'm sure that they were using rebreathers. That requires a lot of skill.
5hr trip...that's the clue. I'm sure that they are bringing lots of extra air scrubbers with them. All meaning that they are hauling a lot of junk with them just to breathe through very tight spaces.
 
JohnDB said:
Cave diving is quite dangerous. I'm sure that they were using rebreathers. That requires a lot of skill.
5hr trip...that's the clue. I'm sure that they are bringing lots of extra air scrubbers with them. All meaning that they are hauling a lot of junk with them just to breathe through very tight spaces.
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following this as close as i can.. everything i read is tough.. like having put put air tanks out in front of them as they swim they are considering what they call a buddy dive rescue. still trying pump as much water as possible out... many prayers are needed plus a miracle from God .
 
I will be praying, don't get me wrong, but I read somewhere last week that they already were rescued, so I'm very confused right now. :confused
 
HeIsRisen2018 said:
I will be praying, don't get me wrong, but I read somewhere last week that they already were rescued, so I'm very confused right now. :confused
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no the rescue has stopped refilling oxygen bottles plus i am sure of some much needed rest for the diver .as i was just reading they are administering medical needs to those rescued .
 
ezra said:
no the rescue has stopped refilling oxygen bottles plus i am sure of some much needed rest for the diver .as i was just reading they are administering medical needs to those rescued .
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It isn't oxygen bottles as widely reported in the news. It's simply air highly compressed to 3500 psi.
Pure oxygen is toxic. CO2 is unbreathable as well...it makes you extremely light-headed. Helium is added to oxygen for deep diving scuba tanks. Nitrogen becomes dissolved at high pressure but reverts to gas at lighter pressure... creating a situation called "the bends". The divers are very knowledgeable about how to avoid this. Reporters are usually clueless as they never have gone diving.
 
JohnDB said:
Reporters are usually clueless as they never have gone diving.
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neither have i or desire to i like a good boat ride but not a fan of deep water
 
My mother just explained this to me today. They had found the team about a week ago, they just didn't rescue them yet, but so far I do believe that everybody is safe.
 
Safe is a relative term. These children are enduring 10+ days with no food or even water. They also went in after soccer practice, meaning their nutritional needs were probably high to begin with.

It seems the strategy has been to remove those in the worst shape first, while supplying the rest with at least something to survive.

Apparently they went in on foot and didn't expect to be there very long, then were trapped by flooding. Now it takes 5 to 6 hours for even the best divers to reach them; I have no idea how that works but it sounds like a nightmare!
 
Razeontherock said:
Safe is a relative term. These children are enduring 10+ days with no food or even water. They also went in after soccer practice, meaning their nutritional needs were probably high to begin with.

It seems the strategy has been to remove those in the worst shape first, while supplying the rest with at least something to survive.

Apparently they went in on foot and didn't expect to be there very long, then were trapped by flooding. Now it takes 5 to 6 hours for even the best divers to reach them; I have no idea how that works but it sounds like a nightmare!
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Diving in a cave is very dangerous.
Your equipment and backup equipment is your life. You can bang your arm or knee and no severe damage to yourself...you do the same to your equipment and you can die.
So they go carefully.
If they are using rebreathers...
The chemicals used to scrub the C02 out of their air are susceptible to water... meanwhile their breath is condensing on the equipment like a glass of ice water sweats. They have to drain the water as well from their systems as they try to navigate the narrow tunnels. (Not easy)
If there are currents this can be very difficult.

All in all it takes time to get anywhere in a cave.

Diving is not for everyone. Even very experienced and skilled divers have been killed in "routine dives" because they get disoriented and disorganized due to changing conditions.
 
ezra said:
neither have i or desire to i like a good boat ride but not a fan of deep water
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That's perfectly reasonable to think. If the mere thought of breathing underwater makes you nervous...you probably shouldn't try it.

Every time people go swimming they learn to hold their breath. Even in the shower we usually hold our breath when facing the spray. We always breathe through our noses too. Divers have overcome these learned behaviors and breathe through their mouths when experience has taught them to do otherwise.
It's cold, your jaw will ache, muscles (you didn't know you had) will cramp....and it's a lot of expensive equipment to purchase.
But some people love it.
 
Here's a video explaining what the issues are from real cave divers. The green and white tanks you keep seeing are nitrox air made for deep diving and are oxygen enriched air mixture.
 
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