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Name This Sin in Hebrews 10:26

Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

I believe the sinning willfully part here is when we had received the knowledge of the truth that there is no more sacrifice for sins, BUT yet continue to believe that there still is necessity to have another sacrifice for sins, then that is the sin that believers are sinning willfully in.

This was never about just the typical continuing to live in sin or sinning willfully per se but in context, it was about believing that there still is need for another sacrifice for sins. If we go back to the message of the whole chapter;

Hebrews 10:3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. 4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins....10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. 14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. 15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us:........17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. 18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.

So when a believer believes that there is necessity to receive another sacrifice for sins "again", that is like treating the blood of the New Covenant as if it was on par with the blood of goats & bulls that there would be need for another sacrifice for sins.

Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Please note in verse 30 above, believers that believe that error that there is still a need for another sacrifice for sins are still His people, but the Lord shall have His vengeance on them for sinning in that manner....unless they repent and ask for forgiveness, of course.

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

See? There is no requirement for another sacrifice for sins for the remission of present or future sins for we are His as the Holy Ghost in us is a Witness to that new reality in Christ Jesus.

Anyway, I believe that is the actual sin of Hebrews 10:26 being mentioned is when a believer still thinks they need to receive another sacrifice for the remission of sins. That is the sinning willfully part.
 
Hi ChristDependent
Welcome to the forum.

You bring up a very interesting verse. Hebrews 10:26

If I read it in the NASB it makes me think that If I continue to sin by my own will, AFTER being advised that Jesus has died for me, there is no longer any hope for me and I'll face terrible judgement and be lost.

Ditto for the NIV.
Ditto for the KJV.

Go figure. The Living Bible comes to the rescue:
"If anyone sins deliberately by rejecting the Savior after knowing the truth of forgiveness, this sin is not covered by Christ's death; there is no way to get rid of it." The Living Bible

This is why I think it's so important to get some help in reading the bible. Could you imagine a new Christian reading that and taking it at face value?

And why can't it be taken at face value? Because it denies everything we know about sin, salvation, Jesus, sacrifice and salvation. One lone verse is never to be pulled out and examined by itself. 1 John 1:9 and Ephesians 1:7

So, yes, you're absolutely right in your exegesis of this verse.

It has to do with apostacy, it has to do with turning away from God and rejecting what He did at the cross. It's believing in some other method of forgiveness of sin, as you stated. We can call this spiritual adultery. Abandoning Jesus for another way. HE is The Way and there is no other. So if we look for another way, we trod Him underfoot.

The sin is abandoning Him. I'd go so far as to say that it is the unpardonable sin.
Mathew 12:31-32

Good thread.

Wondering
 
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Hi ChristDependent
Welcome to the forum.

Thank you for the welcome.:wave

You bring up a very interesting verse. Hebrews 10:26

If I read it in the NASB it makes me think that If I continue to sin by my own will, AFTER being advised that Jesus has died for me, there is no longer any hope for me and I'll face terrible judgement and be lost.

Ditto for the NIV.
Ditto for the KJV.

Go figure. The Living Bible comes to the rescue:
"If anyone sins deliberately by rejecting the Savior after knowing the truth of forgiveness, this sin is not covered by Christ's death; there is no way to get rid of it." The Living Bible

This is why I think it's so important to get some help in reading the bible. Could you imagine a new Christian reading that and taking it at face value?

Actually, that was not the message I was sharing in the OP. Although I rely on the KJV for the meat of His words, the message is the same in the NASB, & the NIV that those believers are not "lost" but are still His people as seen at this link, however, you do not get that message in the Living Bible.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews 10:26,30&version=KJV;NASB;NIV;TLB

I can imagine how you are taking those verses to mean by the Living Bible in your next quote.

And why can't it be taken at face value? Because it denies everything we know about sin, salvation, Jesus, sacrifice and salvation. One lone verse is never to be pulled out and examined by itself.

So, yes, you're absolutely right in your exegesis of this verse.

It has to do with apostacy, it has to do with turning away from God and rejecting what He did at the cross. It's believing in some other method of forgiveness of sin, as you stated. We can call this spiritual adultery. Abandoning Jesus for another way. HE is The Way and there is no other. So if we look for another way, we trod Him underfoot.

The sin is abandoning Him. I'd go so far as to say that it is the unpardonable sin.

I understand why you would think that by reading the Living Bible, but...

I believe Paul was addressing believers that had not "abandoned Him", but were thinking that there was still a need for another sacrifice for sins, especially after they had fallen away and had repented again in coming back to Him, then those believers will get in trouble with the Lord for doing that in thinking they need to be born again "again" when they are still His no matter what.

John 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

If any believer had been practicing receiving the one time sacrifice for sins "again" like say at communion, they can repent, and just do communion only in remembrance of Him instead.

The best way to deal with any sin in coming back to the Lord in fellowship is to confess the sin and trust Him to forgive them of that sin and to help them walk in the light as He had done. 1 John 1:3-9
 
Welcome to our Christian fellowship in Jesus’ name.

As I’m sure you’re aware there is no definite proof as to who this letter was written by, or to whom. The name “Hebrews” was assigned to it.

The very fact sacrifices of blood is discussed as well as other Old Testament facts show it’s the Jewish Christians addressed, and those among them not receiving Jesus after hearing all the preaching to them, & seeing all the miracles accomplished (partakers of the Holy Spirit – Heb 6:4), and then to turn back to their traditions instead of Jesus for forgiveness, there is no other name given by which they can be forgiven.

As to its author I believe it to be the Apostle Paul as we read in Hebrews 10:34 says "For ye had compassion of me in my bonds." To me and others, this indicates Paul authored Hebrews.
 
Hmmm. I do believe we MIGHT be saying the same thing.
I have about 20 bibles. Forget about the Living Bible - it's not the one I use.
I have a dry sense of humor, which you'll soon discover.

But, would you care to expound on your comment re communion.
I spoke of apostacy - is this what you mean?

Wondering
P.S. You're speaking of being born again, again - as in your other thread.
Again, are you saying you CAN be born again, again OR are you saying one cannot?
The above is speaking to not serving God, or serving a different God, or needing to depend on the old system of animal sacrifice - it could be anything.
 
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Welcome to our Christian fellowship in Jesus’ name.

Thank you for the welcome. :wave

As I’m sure you’re aware there is no definite proof as to who this letter was written by, or to whom. The name “Hebrews” was assigned to it.

That is why we should lean on Jesus for that discernment as well as for other questions.

The very fact sacrifices of blood is discussed as well as other Old Testament facts show it’s the Jewish Christians addressed, and those among them not receiving Jesus after hearing all the preaching to them, & seeing all the miracles accomplished (partakers of the Holy Spirit – Heb 6:4), and then to turn back to their traditions instead of Jesus for forgiveness, there is no other name given by which they can be forgiven.

I believe they had received Jesus, but they were believing that there would still be a need for another sacrifice for sins since the scripture did go on about God judging His people in Hebrews 10:30, and so if they do not have the Spirit of Christ, they are none of His ( Romans 8:9 ) which leads to believe they had received Jesus in order to be judged as His people.

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Hebrews 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

There is forgiveness if believers stop seeking that for the forgiveness of sins and just go to Him instead.

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

As to its author I believe it to be the Apostle Paul as we read in Hebrews 10:34 says "For ye had compassion of me in my bonds." To me and others, this indicates Paul authored Hebrews.

That is whom I believe had written the book of Hebrews as Paul was led by the Holy Spirit to do.
 
Hmmm. I do believe we MIGHT be saying the same thing.
I have about 20 bibles. Forget about the Living Bible - it's not the one I use.
I have a dry sense of humor, which you'll soon discover.

Thanks to Him, I can give grace. I hope He will help you to continue to give grace to me if I do not always catch that dry humor.

But, would you care to expound on your comment re communion.
I spoke of apostacy - is this what you mean?

Apostasy is anything standing apart from the truth in His words and so yes, as per an example, if a believer was using communion as a means to receive forgiveness of sins like seeing the bread & the wine for more than what it is beyond symbolism for being done in remembrance of Him by seeing them as the actual Christ's one time sacrifice for sin being "made" present to receive "again", then they need to repent of that practice with His help or else get some stripes from the Father.

Wondering
P.S. You're speaking of being born again, again - as in your other thread.
Again, are you saying you CAN be born again, again OR are you saying one cannot?

When a believer has received Jesus Christ; He is born again. That means the believer can never receive Christ again because He has never left.

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying,...........20.....and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

The above is speaking to not serving God, or serving a different God, or needing to depend on the old system of animal sacrifice - it could be anything.

It can be applied in other ways in how a believer can err into thinking they need to receive another sacrifice for sins or even to receive Jesus Christ again.

2 Corinthians 11:1 Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me. 2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. 3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
 
Receiving b read and wine for the forgiveness of sin.
Only those attending the RCC believe that receiving communion can forgive sin.
Is this what you're referring to?
I agree with you that we should not look to other methods for the forgiveness of sin. Otherwise Jesus' death on the cross becomes of no effect. John 14:6 Hebrews 4:14

Now, as far as repenting of this, or any other such practice, the question becomes complicated.
Can one be practicing a false doctrine because it is what he was taught and still be saved?
In other words, does the doctrine save you?

Wondering
 
Receiving b read and wine for the forgiveness of sin.
Only those attending the RCC believe that receiving communion can forgive sin.
Is this what you're referring to?

Any believer that receives communion in that fashion to receive forgiveness of sins is guilty of that sin. They can stop doing that sin and ask for forgiveness; and they will be right with God in Christ Jesus again. 1 John 1:9

I agree with you that we should not look to other methods for the forgiveness of sin. Otherwise Jesus' death on the cross becomes of no effect. John 14:6 Hebrews 4:14

It has no effect because it voids faith and instigate insecurity about their salvation, even though He stlll abides in them. 2 Timothy 2:13

Now, as far as repenting of this, or any other such practice, the question becomes complicated.
Can one be practicing a false doctrine because it is what he was taught and still be saved?
In other words, does the doctrine save you?

They are still saved, but are considered as laboring in unbelief and coming short of that rest in Jesus; Hebrews 4:1-11 They need to go before that throne of grace for help to see the truth in His words that they are His no matter what, and to repent by honoring Him by resting in Him that there is no more sacrifice for sins. Hebrews 4:12-16 & John 6:35 & Matthew 9:17 & 1 Corinthians 6:19-20
 
Any believer that receives communion in that fashion to receive forgiveness of sins is guilty of that sin. They can stop doing that sin and ask for forgiveness; and they will be right with God in Christ Jesus again. 1 John 1:9

It has no effect because it voids faith and instigate insecurity about their salvation, even though He stlll abides in them. 2 Timothy 2:13

They are still saved, but are considered as laboring in unbelief and coming short of that rest in Jesus; Hebrews 4:1-11 They need to go before that throne of grace for help to see the truth in His words that they are His no matter what, and to repent by honoring Him by resting in Him that there is no more sacrifice for sins. Hebrews 4:12-16 & John 6:35 & Matthew 9:17 & 1 Corinthians 6:19-20

I agree with all of the above.
They are His no matter what - even if an incorrect doctrine is taught to them.
Rest is not easy to find for some, but we can help them along the way.
Mathew 11:28

Wondering
 
I agree with all of the above.

I thank the Lord that you see the truth.:amen

They are His no matter what - even if an incorrect doctrine is taught to them.
Rest is not easy to find for some, but we can help them along the way.
Mathew 11:28

May God be peradventuring to recover some to rest in Him.:agreed

2 Timothy 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will. :pray
 
I think Hebrews 10:26 describes the sin of those who claim allegiance to God, yet knowingly and willfully reject Jesus' doctrine of charity.

Heb 10:23 - Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)
Heb 10:24 - And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
Heb 10:25 - Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
Heb 10:26 ¶ For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 - But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.​
 
I think Hebrews 10:26 describes the sin of those who claim allegiance to God, yet knowingly and willfully reject Jesus' doctrine of charity.

Heb 10:23 - Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)
Heb 10:24 - And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
Heb 10:25 - Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
Heb 10:26 ¶ For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 - But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.​

I can see why you would apply verse 26 in that way, but do consider that Paul goes on explaining the consequence of the offense that is giving by this sin which has to deal with still thinking that there is necessity for another sacrifice for sins which would treat the blood of the covenant as if it was an unholy thing; like as if on par with the blood of goats and bulls which could never take away sins that it needs repeating.

Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
 
Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

I believe the sinning willfully part here is when we had received the knowledge of the truth that there is no more sacrifice for sins, BUT yet continue to believe that there still is necessity to have another sacrifice for sins, then that is the sin that believers are sinning willfully in.

This was never about just the typical continuing to live in sin or sinning willfully per se but in context, it was about believing that there still is need for another sacrifice for sins. If we go back to the message of the whole chapter;

Hebrews 10:3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. 4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins....10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. 14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. 15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us:........17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. 18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.

So when a believer believes that there is necessity to receive another sacrifice for sins "again", that is like treating the blood of the New Covenant as if it was on par with the blood of goats & bulls that there would be need for another sacrifice for sins.

Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Please note in verse 30 above, believers that believe that error that there is still a need for another sacrifice for sins are still His people, but the Lord shall have His vengeance on them for sinning in that manner....unless they repent and ask for forgiveness, of course.

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

See? There is no requirement for another sacrifice for sins for the remission of present or future sins for we are His as the Holy Ghost in us is a Witness to that new reality in Christ Jesus.

Anyway, I believe that is the actual sin of Hebrews 10:26 being mentioned is when a believer still thinks they need to receive another sacrifice for the remission of sins. That is the sinning willfully part.
I think your making it way more complicated than it is.
If a Jew sinned, he brought a sin offering to the altar. In the spirit of the Law, he would offer the sacrifice with a contrite heart after making it right with whoever he wronged.
But we like the idea of paying a fine and going about our day.... Some rack up parking tickets and simply pay the fine... And the Altar was never intended to function that way.
So it is with Christ. He paid our debt, but it's not a system... It's a relationship. You don't willingly take advantage of another's grace. We were bought at a price.

It's about the heart. We all make mistakes... But when we willingly hurt others knowing we are doing wrong, that's not what Christ died for. What did Jesus say? Ah yes... Father forgive them, for they know not what they do..., We could elaborate easily.

Can willful sins be forgiven? First, they need to be made right. Repenting isn't simply stopping a behavior, no, it's about picking up a new behavior.

Do you willfully lie? Then start telling the truth.
Do you steal? Then get a job and give to those in need.
Do you persecute the church? Then start building up the church.
 
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I think your making it way more complicated than it is.
If a Jew sinned, he brought a sin offering to the altar. In the spirit of the Law, he would offer the sacrifice with a contrite heart after making it right with whoever he wronged.
But we like the idea of paying a fine and going about our day.... Some rack up parking tickets and simply pay the fine... And the Altar was never intended to function that way.
So it is with Christ. He paid our debt, but it's not a system... It's a relationship. You don't willingly take advantage of another's grace. We were bought at a price.

It's about the heart. We all make mistakes... But when we willingly hurt others knowing we are doing wrong, that's not what Christ died for. What did Jesus say? Ah yes... Father forgive them, for they know not what they do..., We could elaborate easily.

Can willful sins be forgiven? First, they need to be made right. Repenting isn't simply stopping a behavior, no, it's about picking up a new behavior.

Do you willfully lie? Then start telling the truth.
Do you steal? Then get a job and give to those in need.
Do you persecute the church? Then start building up the church.

Believers get complicated when they go outside the reference of the chapter in question.

The answer to what the sin is that believers that willfully sin in of Hebrews 10:26 is within the context of that verse as explained in the chapter as the OP testify.
 
Believers get complicated when they go outside the reference of the chapter in question.

The answer to what the sin is that believers that willfully sin in of Hebrews 10:26 is within the context of that verse as explained in the chapter as the OP testify.
Christ Dependent
You ask the same question repeatedly.
Here's your answer:
Hebrews 10:26
The sin is the sin of NOT believing in Christ to forgive your sins.
You know, like the blaspheming of the Holy Spirit. OR, denying the Son of God - which is what blaspheming the Holy Spirit is - or saying bad or silly things about the Holy Spirit, like for instance, that Jesus is not the Son who came to be the last sacrifice necessary to forgive sin.

You see: It says that if anyone purposefully rejects the Savior after knowing His truths, or THE TRUTH,
THIS SIN (of negation) is no longer covered by Jesus' death, or by any other means. How could it be? You just blasphemed the Holy Spirit.

verse 27: There will be nothing left to look forward to but God's anger...

I guess it's too easy.
There is nothing further for me to say on this...

W
 
Christ Dependent
You ask the same question repeatedly.
Here's your answer:
Hebrews 10:26
The sin is the sin of NOT believing in Christ to forgive your sins.
You know, like the blaspheming of the Holy Spirit. OR, denying the Son of God - which is what blaspheming the Holy Spirit is - or saying bad or silly things about the Holy Spirit, like for instance, that Jesus is not the Son who came to be the last sacrifice necessary to forgive sin.

You see: It says that if anyone purposefully rejects the Savior after knowing His truths, or THE TRUTH,
THIS SIN (of negation) is no longer covered by Jesus' death, or by any other means. How could it be? You just blasphemed the Holy Spirit.

verse 27: There will be nothing left to look forward to but God's anger...

I guess it's too easy.
There is nothing further for me to say on this...

W

I reckon there is nothing for me to say about that either since Hebrews 10:26 explained what that sin was which was after having knowledge that there is no more sacrifice for sins. They sin willfully by thinking that there is still need for another sacrifice for sins as it goes on to explain the consequence of treating the blood of the Covenant as if that one time sacrifice for sins was not good enough.

So we agree to disagree.
 
I reckon there is nothing for me to say about that either since Hebrews 10:26 explained what that sin was which was after having knowledge that there is no more sacrifice for sins. They sin willfully by thinking that there is still need for another sacrifice for sins as it goes on to explain the consequence of treating the blood of the Covenant as if that one time sacrifice for sins was not good enough.

So we agree to disagree.
WE DON'T DISAGREE!!
(can it be?)

Jesus is the LAST sacrifice.
Once they ABANDON Jesus, there is NO OTHER sacrifice left for them to depend on.

So, it's not good to abandon Jesus. Nothing left to do after that...

W
 
WE DON'T DISAGREE!!
(can it be?)

Jesus is the LAST sacrifice.
Once they ABANDON Jesus, there is NO OTHER sacrifice left for them to depend on.

So, it's not good to abandon Jesus. Nothing left to do after that...

W

I guess I was disagreeing with how you were reading Hebrews 10:26. but whether or not we are on the same page on that point, I reckon I do not know, but we both know that there is no more sacrifice for sins because they are forever His as in bought with a price and sealed as His that there is no way we can become unbought that we need to be bought & sealed again.
 
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