[_ Old Earth _] Oliver - Humanzee

[Wertbag]

Oliver - Humanzee
There has just been a documentry on NZ TV showing a very strange creature. Called Oliver, he appears to be a new species of chimpanzee. He differs quite a lot from normal chimps in appearance (flatter nose, less hair on his head, different shaped ears that are further back on the head, and the skull is smaller than the average chimp). The most amazing thing is that he walks upright, and not just like chimps who occasionaly stand, he walks on two legs always.
He has the same number of chromasomes that a chimp has, but his genetic structure is different. He also appears to be more intelligent than chimps. Most chimps spend their time climbing and playing around, Oliver on the other hand watches people and tries to copy them, performing simple tasks like loading and moving the wheelbarrow with no training required.
Oliver is still alive to this day, aged 42 living in an animal sancutary.
There are three possibilities where he came from:
1 - there is a tribe of chimps with these characteristics living somewhere in west africa (where he was originally found at around age 2), would have to be a small tribe but it would not be impossible.
2 - hes a genetic experiment. Scientists believe they could implant the core of a fertilised chimp egg into a human egg, giving a 99% chimp/1% human. Seems less likely as he wouldn't have survived in the wild as other chimps won't accept him, and no scientist has ever claimed to have done the experiment.
3 - Hes a mutant, but with mutations that are either beneficial or at least neutral.

If there is a tribe of an unknown species then it could show the so called missing link that evolutionists have been looking for. If Oliver is a mutant then it could show positive mutation, which is also sometime evolutionists have wanted to show.
I don't have any answers as to what Oliver is, but he is certainly an interesting animal that doesn't fit into know catagories.
For pics and more info see:
http://www.rotten.com/library/cryptozoology/humanzee/

What does everyone think of Oliver?

 

[Rogue 9]

What does everyone think of Oliver?

I think I'm looking at an obvious hoax.

 

[Barbarian]

Chimps are variable in appearance, like humans. Oliver has learned to walk and adapt human mannerisms, but he has 48 normal chimp chromosomes:

"Swett asked Chicago University geneticist Dr David Ledbetter to examine Oliver's chromosomes, which he did in autumn 1996. His studies revealed that Oliver had 48, not 47, chromosomes, thus disproving the earlier claim and confirming that he had a normal chromosome count for a chimpanzee. Swett, however, desired further analyses to pin-point Oliver's precise status. Accordingly, he persuaded DNA analysis expert Dr John fly from Texas's Trinity University and cytogeneticist Dr Charleen Moore from Texas University's Health Science Center to conduct the most extensive genetic studies ever undertaken with Oliver. Their results were published in 1998 by the American Journal of Physical Anthropology and disclosed the following.

Standard chromosomal studies fully supported Ledbetter's findings that Oliver had the diploid chromesome count expected for chimpanzees (i.e. 48 or 24 pairs). They also revealed that his chromosomes possessed banding patterns typical for the common chimpanzee but different from those of humans and bonobos, thereby excluding any possibility of Oliver being a hybrid.

Moreover, when they sequenced a specific portion (312 bp region) of the D-loop region of Oliver's mitochondrial DNA they discovered that its sequence corresponded very closely indeed with that of the Central African subspecies of common chimpanzee; the closest correspondence of all was with a chimp specimen from Gabon in Central-West Africa."
http://www.n2.net/prey/bigfoot/creatures/article.htm


He's just an ugly chimp, albeit an intelligent one.

 

[Rogue 9]

Anyone who doubts that humans have ****** chimps hasn't met enough humans. Tune in to an episode of Comedy Central's "The Man Show," then tell me this hasn't happened.

Any site that would use this for evidence is not worthy of credibility.

 

[evanman]

A similar TV show appeared on UK TV this week. Oliver certainly is a strange looking Chimp, howver the scientists studying Oliver have proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that oliver is TOTALLY a chimp having NO human DNA whatsoever.

He appears to be a one-off. Sadly he's blind and suffering from arthritis, but he's a gentle creature. (yes he's a creature having a creator)!

 

[Wertbag]

Oliver is definately a chimp of some kind, theres no doubt there. And as far as I can find its impossible for cross breeds to occur due to the chromosome count being different. He would appear to be deformed or a mutant of some kind, which explains the different dna structure and appearance differences to normal chimps.
The walking thing is pretty strange though, as a trained chimp will only do so on command and only for short times, whereas Oliver does it all the time without prompting. Just a pity he can't speak, we'll probably never know where he came from.