[_ Old Earth _] Only Bible/Jesus Believing Scientists Here to Tutor me PLZ

[ÃÂoppleganger]

I know That Science and the Biblical Record can be true at the same time. Although, they don't always agree on the methods, the truth that lies in them or conclusions drawn from them. Sometimes they contradict , sometimes the say almost the same thing! I've studied Evolution, Philosophy and other sciences before, I am no fool! I'm merely posting this to see if anyone can state simply without to much contradiction or explain the contradictions, while following the rules or this post! This is an experiment in science, a paper to be written on the state on man in regards, to statements of faith and science. I do believe that science often confirms the Bible and vica versa. But I believe also that Science & religion muddy the waters with circular, redundant, or ambiguous answers. Do not assume anything with me!

HERES THE RULES OF THIS POST
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Keep your reply as narrow as possible.

If it can be answered yes or no, do so.

Do not not interject opinions, in matters or science, unless through the methodology of determining a thing, you need to presumption a thing
in order to test a hypothesis.

In matters of Faith, unless it contradicts the Bible completely leaving no room to draw any more conclusions or ask anymore questions, do not give an opinion. But please state your faith about this matter!

If you don't believe the Bible and Jesus, Bye. DONT POST HERE!

1st question
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Evidence of a worldwide flood can be seen in a silt layer that pretty much can be found everywhere on the globe. Yes or No

2nd question
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It rests between certain levels known in time as evidence of it. I think its called the austin layer or something like that.
You Can Explain Here

 

[Frost Giant]

Why would the answers to those change if you were a theist or not?

 

[Zero132132]

If you're only looking for answers from people who already believe, then you're essentially admitting that you're asking for dishonesty. You're not looking for the real answers, you're looking for answers through the lense of belief. If you already believe any one thing, you will look for evidence to support your claims, and ignore all evidence against what you belief. You aren't asking for reality here, you're asking for filtered reality.

You're asking for people to only give you evidence that supports what you already believe. There can be no honest conclusions drawn from such an endeavor. What is your purpose here?

If there had been a global flood as violent as the one in the bible, it wouldn't lay down a layer of silt. Calm floods do this, but floods as extreme as the one portrayed in your magical book would have had effects including large tectonic upheavals, massive erosion, deposition, and transport, and reworking of sediments more then once. It also would have resulted in mass burial of many creatures, and if the flood geologist's fossilization models are to be believed, there ought to be many many many more fossils then we've found.

If geological observations today were caused by a massive worldwide flood, erosion and sedimentation ought to be fairly uniform across the entire globe. This isn't so. Also, if we're to follow flood geology, heavy, dense objects such as human tools should have sunk to the bottom, but they are only found in higher layers. As well, grass seeds and remnants appear only in higher layers, and since wet grass readily sinks, it's quite obvious that a global flood simply doesn't fit any of the evidence.

Also, for your little flood, there would have to have been a source for the water in the deluge. If it was a massive vapor canopy, as some have suggested, the pressure of the atmosphere would have had to have been somewhere in the neighborhood of 9 atmospheres to support all of the water. In case you don't know what an atmosphere is, it's the standard pressure at sea level. 9 atmospheres would kill you. Others have made claims of a massive comet being the cause, but if there was a comet large enough to give enough water for such a deluge, it all would have been boiled on impact, and all unprotected living creatures (including your Noah) would have been boiled alive. If you want to talk about subterranian water deposits, then I want to talk about the fact that water is less dense then rock. Not all water is at surface level now, but the general trend is that because water is less dense then rock, rock goes down and water comes up. The amount of water required to flood the entire world wouldn't have stayed underground very long.

And besides that, where did it go?

So, a simple answer to both questions is NO!

You're going to ignore this, of course. It's obvious from your opening post that you don't care for science. You only want answers from sources already muddied by faith. You only want answers from those who agree with your position already. You're blinding yourself to reality out of fear of hell, because the fear of raw eternity overrides reality in your mind.

At the very least, admit that your opening post is intellectually dishonest. If you won't admit that, then don't ever bother asking for evidence, because you don't care about evidence OR reality.

 

[ÃÂoppleganger]

If you're only looking for answers from people who already believe, then you're essentially admitting that you're asking for dishonesty.

I dont believe that! like a person who is a christian cant be a scientist, which's why you showed up.

You didnt answer my question,and you show your biases!

There is an austin layer of silt how you refer to it is not how i refer to it, you say it must do this it must do that.

this really isnt a christian forum , god bless those who r!

Anyways , I prove my hypothosis for my paper anyways!
On Human Behavior, Science and Religion.

And sadly I was right!

Get outta Sodom and Gommorah while u can !

This is my last post Good Bye

 

[cubedbee]

Re: Only Bible/Jesus Believing Scientists Here to Tutor me P

1st question
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Evidence of a worldwide flood can be seen in a silt layer that pretty much can be found everywhere on the globe. Yes or No

No

2nd question
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It rests between certain levels known in time as evidence of it. I think its called the austin layer or something like that.
You Can Explain Here

No, never heard of anything like an austin layer, nor does google turn up anything.

 

[pfilmtech]

This thread really makes my head hurt

 

[ÃÂoppleganger]

GOD'S ULTIMATE REVENGE

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[bibleberean]

We cannot start and post threads and demand that only certain members may post their opinions.

We do have a forum Christian Talk & Advice where only Christians are allowed.

Thanks,

Robert