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peaceful Guild Wars petition asking to remove occult symbols
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Tofuy
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my understand is that there was an objectionable pentagram. could you post a link to the art?
i have a question: if you need a symbol to represent "evil" or "the devil" or something like that, how can you do it tastefuly so it doesn't offend anyone? that's assuming we continute to have computer games with evil guys and good guys. like i don't think anyone would object if a priest or a monk showed a protective halo or cross. they're symbols which are intended to represent "good".
i have a question: if you need a symbol to represent "evil" or "the devil" or something like that, how can you do it tastefuly so it doesn't offend anyone? that's assuming we continute to have computer games with evil guys and good guys. like i don't think anyone would object if a priest or a monk showed a protective halo or cross. they're symbols which are intended to represent "good".
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I have decided not to play it and am selling my account on ebay thank you very much.
Here are some screenshots
pentacle
http://www.ccgr.net/modules.php?name=co ... at=1&pos=0
goat head
http://www.ccgr.net/modules.php?name=co ... at=1&pos=1
Here are some screenshots
pentacle
http://www.ccgr.net/modules.php?name=co ... at=1&pos=0
goat head
http://www.ccgr.net/modules.php?name=co ... at=1&pos=1
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cubedbee
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It truly is silly to object to using evil symbols to represent the evil beings you are pretending to fight? You think it's okay to pretend to fight evil creatures, but just as long as that pretending is very realistic?
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the creatures are fantasy, the religions and the gods in the games are fake. The thing that I am uncomfortable with is that they are using real occult symbols in magic. This is just my opinion and I'm not forcing it on anyone but I know many Christians who are uncomfortable seeing satanic symbols in games. It doesn't bother others
CCGR,
First I want to apologize for my previous post. It came across as being much more harsh then I intended. Sorry.
I looked at the screenshoots that you posted. Cannot disagree that the first is clearly a five-pointed star. However, I do not see anything in the shot which would indicate it being an evil symbol. Unless you see it connection with magic being evil in and of itself.
Remember, the five-pointed star is a symbol that has shown up in different art and cultures going back thousands of years. It was only with the advent of both Christianity and Satanism that it started to be looked apon as a symbol of evil.
As to the goatshead. Well when I first looked at the shot I knew that I had seen it from somewhere. It took several hours of looking through different sites and checking my collection of artbooks, rpg collection, and books on mystical symbols before I gave up.
I took a hardcopy with me to my local game store and showed it to several of the D&D players there to see if any of them had seen it before. Several of them knew it from the game but, it was not until I asked them if any had seen it outside the game that I got my answer, and kicked myself for not seeing it for what it was.
What that screenshot shows is a Pronghorn Sheep's skull with undefined swirl patterns on it. Not a goat skull.
Now I do not know if the game designers were aware of the difference between a sheep's skull and a goat's skull, but the shape of the horns is what makes the difference.
First I want to apologize for my previous post. It came across as being much more harsh then I intended. Sorry.
I looked at the screenshoots that you posted. Cannot disagree that the first is clearly a five-pointed star. However, I do not see anything in the shot which would indicate it being an evil symbol. Unless you see it connection with magic being evil in and of itself.
Remember, the five-pointed star is a symbol that has shown up in different art and cultures going back thousands of years. It was only with the advent of both Christianity and Satanism that it started to be looked apon as a symbol of evil.
As to the goatshead. Well when I first looked at the shot I knew that I had seen it from somewhere. It took several hours of looking through different sites and checking my collection of artbooks, rpg collection, and books on mystical symbols before I gave up.
I took a hardcopy with me to my local game store and showed it to several of the D&D players there to see if any of them had seen it before. Several of them knew it from the game but, it was not until I asked them if any had seen it outside the game that I got my answer, and kicked myself for not seeing it for what it was.
What that screenshot shows is a Pronghorn Sheep's skull with undefined swirl patterns on it. Not a goat skull.
Now I do not know if the game designers were aware of the difference between a sheep's skull and a goat's skull, but the shape of the horns is what makes the difference.
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Tofuy
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that pentegram is small. i can understand that someone might find a symbol like that offensive. people are offended by all kinds of things. what i find offensive is that they associated the pentegram with "evil" when it's not. a pentagram isn't a "mark of evil magic", despite what the media, hollywood, and religious leaders tells us. the pentegram is a representation of the 5 seasons connecting to each other. it's intended to fit inside one of the oldest shapes with meaning, a circle, which represents life.
i've looked on the walls of a good number of churches and have seen those 5 pointed stars with slightly enlarged circles around them. anyone who tells you a pentagram or 5 pointed star is "evil" either doesn't know what they're talking about or is lying to you. i'm sure the art on those churches walls wasn't intended as evil.
i've looked on the walls of a good number of churches and have seen those 5 pointed stars with slightly enlarged circles around them. anyone who tells you a pentagram or 5 pointed star is "evil" either doesn't know what they're talking about or is lying to you. i'm sure the art on those churches walls wasn't intended as evil.
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Christ's Lil' Headbanger
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Re: peaceful Guild Wars petition asking to remove occult sym
Well, I for one think you're overreacting... Besides if you don't like the symbol, why don't you care about the fraggin NECROMANCER? lol. And your petition won't get anywhere, no offence. The game industry doesn't care....
CCGR said:
Well, I for one think you're overreacting... Besides if you don't like the symbol, why don't you care about the fraggin NECROMANCER? lol. And your petition won't get anywhere, no offence. The game industry doesn't care....
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