[_ Old Earth _] Piltdown man 1 & 2

[John]

Does anyone really want me to type a big detailed post of these ?
My fingers are numb from the other ones i just submitted.

 

[jwu]

There were two cases? I only know of one. Either way, who uncovered the fraud? Weren't it scientists?

 

[John]

There were two cases? I only know of one. Either way, who uncovered the fraud? Weren't it scientists?

why does it matter who discovered it ?

 

[Dunzo]

There were two cases? I only know of one. Either way, who uncovered the fraud? Weren't it scientists?

why does it matter who discovered it ?

Because it shows that scientists are interested in scientific integrity, not pushing their own agenda (like.. umm... creationists).

 

[John]

WAS IT NOT SCIENTISTS THE PROPOSED THE FAKES FOR YEARS ON THE PUBLIC UNDER THERE BENT WORLD VIEW IN THE FIRST PLACE ?

sorry capps were on i a am to lazy to fix it.

 

[freeway]

There were two cases? I only know of one. Either way, who uncovered the fraud? Weren't it scientists?

why does it matter who discovered it ?

Because it shows that scientists are interested in scientific integrity, not pushing their own agenda (like.. umm... creationists).

So only creationist have a hidden agenda and that main stream scientist would never under any circumstance, be to proud or boastful to admit they where wrong or taking a small fine "tooth" and make a whole species out of it.. sure alot of the time it is another scienctist that bring the fraud to light..

 

[Quasarsphere]

So only creationist have a hidden agenda and that main stream scientist would never under any circumstance, be to proud or boastful to admit they where wrong or taking a small fine "tooth" and make a whole species out of it.. sure alot of the time it is another scienctist that bring the fraud to light..

It's not unknown for scientists to let their egos get in the way of real science. It can happen. However, the way the scientific method works means that the truth always has a foothold.

 

[Patashu]

While it was a scientist who proposed piltdown man as an ancestor to humans, the vast majority of scientists never accepted the finding and it was soon determined to be a fraud by scientists, not by creationists.

This does not show that science is inadequate or faulty but rather that it can learn from its mistakes, improve, get closer to the truth. It is a self-correcting system and falsities are weeded out as more and more evidence is uncovered.

 

[jwu]

Considering how many scientists there are, it is just normal that there also are a few "black sheep" among them. The scientific community as a whole weeds them out as soon as they are discovered though - and the rigid peer review process does a great job at this.