REVELATION 13,11-18 / 2 THESSALONIANS 2,1-12
Pray only Christ before reading. Use a bible and read in an objective way before bringing criticisms. This document comprises at the end an appendix which contains extracts of the book of PIERRE JOVANOVIC whose title is: “investigation into the existence of the guardian angelsâ€.
To worship somebody is to pay him a religious homage. To pray somebody is to say a prayer to him as a divinity. In saying prayers to somebody, we make him to become our god.
Please, note that, when you read “Mary†written in brackets, it means we refer not to the real Mary but to an impure spirit.
The passage 2 Thessalonians 2,1-12 described the appearance of the man of sin before the return of Christ (2 Thessalonians 2,1-3). This wicked one will use miracles to deceive and push people more easily to transgress the law of God, to revolt against God (2 Thessalonians 2.4).
Revelation 13,11-18 also described the same man of sin and we put ourselves the question to know if the wicked one did not already make his appearance. The description of the facts of Revelation 13,11-18 as well as an analysis of the verses of 2 Thessalonians 2,1-12 will enlighten us.
Revelation 13,11-18 reports these facts (listed from 1 to 8):
1. The man of sin will come up out of the bottomless pit (Revelation 13.11 and Revelation 11.7). He is thus an impure spirit.
2. One of his miracles consists in making fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men (Revelation 13.13). What represents this fire from heaven?
This fire is nothing but the heat of the sun; indeed, by reading Revelation 16,8-9 one realizes that the word “fire†symbolizes the heat of the sun.
On October 13th, 1917 “Mary†did a miracle in the town of Fatima in front of approximately 70000 people: the sun is detached from the firmament and made to sink in the direction of the ground as if it came to be crushed there. The people present howled then of fright and pain because of the increasing intensity of the heat which fell down on them. (See page 379 of the appendix).
3. By the means of his miracles, the man of sin asks people to make an image (an image can be a statue, for example: Isaiah 40,18-19). It pushes people to adore the image or the statue (Revelation 13,14-15).
It is with Constantine I (emperor of the christianized Roman empire) that developed the habit to represent Christ, Mary and the saints (Pierre…) and to place these images in the churches. The man of sin thus formulated his request to make an image through Constantine. At that time one adored the image of Mary who was their protective appointed. Indeed, according to the second council of Nicée, this image deserves greeting and respectful worship.
“Marie†also made such a request during an appearance around 1830 when she claimed with Zoe-Catherine Labouré the manufacturing and the wear of a miraculous medal to her effigy.
4. The wicked one will succeed in deceiving people of any social status (rich person and the poor, free and slaves) and of any age (small and great). (Revelation 13.16).
This fact rejects the thesis according to which one affirms that “the man of sin will appear when humanity will be plunged in a politico-social and economic chaos of which only he would hold the solutionsâ€.
Indeed, it is naturally and unconstrained that certain people will be deceived. On the other hand, others will be forced to worship the image of the man of sin (Revelation 13.15). That points out the iconoclastic war which burst out in the christianized Roman empire under the reign of Isaurians at the 8th century and which lasted one century.
Those which adored the images fought those which did not want to adore them.
“Mary†also deceives people of any social status and any age throughout the world (see page 421 of the appendix).
5. The man of sin will also be able to give life to the image or the statue (Revelation 13.15). Indeed, we have cases where the statue of “Mary†ran tears, spoke and bled. (See pages 422 and 426 of the appendix).
6. The man of sin will cause people of any age and any social status to receive a mark on their hand or their face (Revelation 13.16).
NOTE: God also puts a mark on his servants or his believers (Ezekiel 9.4 and verse 6; Revelation 7.3 and Ephesians 1,13-14). Paul in 1 Timothy 4.2 described this mark which the wicked one puts on his servants.
This reveals that the marks, either they come from God or the man of sin, are not physical but spiritual. This rejects the thesis according to which it is affirmed that “the mark of the wicked one will be an electronic chipâ€.
7. In Revelation 13.17 it is said that no man will be able to buy or sell except he that has the mark of the wicked one.
Indeed, if one has the mark of the wicked one that means one is identified as his believer or servant. And as a believer, one will be interested in using, buying or selling things which emanate from the man of sin, things such as statues, etc. (See page 421 of the appendix).
8. In Rvelation 13.18 it is said that the number of the man of sin is 666. That makes think of the doctrine of Holy trinity because there is no union of three persons (the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost) in one Godhead (See the document: Trinity or no trinity).
This number also makes think of three “pastors†or “shepherds†who will guide the spiritual life of believers of the wicked one (Zechariah 11.8). These 3 “pastors†are not natural people but they can act through men (Revelation 16,13-14) or appear and speak to them.
Nowadays, the mediation of Jesus (1 Timothy 2.5; Hebrews 7.25 and Colossians 3.17) “is replaced†by a triple mediation ensured by: the clergy, the “saints†(see page 480 of the appendix) and “Maryâ€. Indeed, is the pope not said to be the vicar of Christ? In addition, he is named: holy father like God (John 17.11 and Hosea 11.9).
Private or direct relationship with God as well as personal reading of the bible (1 John 2,26-27) is scarce. One prefers to turn to the clergy or to call upon the “saints†or “Mary†to approach God or to obtain favors. Then Paul questions himself and is astonished: “… why… are you subject to ordinances? …†(Colossians 2,18-22). So is the work of the wicked one through us and it will be so until the return of Christ (2 Thessalonians 2.8).
From all what we said till now, it comes out that God as well as the man of sin started to mark their servants long time ago. The man of sin has been acting for a long time without one being able to realize it. He has been acting either through us (like the Holy Ghost) or during his appearance to us. In both cases, he has been imposing his law to us which is a transgression of the law of God (Daniel prophesied on this subject in Daniel 7.25). The wicked one has been living in us and has been pushing us to obey to him.
NOTE: In Daniel 7.7 the vision of the 4th animal is in fact the christianized Roman empire; it is the 4th kingdom (Daniel 7.23) after those of “Babylonâ€, “Persian and Mèdes†and “Alexander the great (Greek kingdom)â€. Please, read again all this passage of Daniel 7,23-25.
Up to now, the habits of this christianized Roman empire still remain in certain Christian assemblies.
Then this question is put: IS IT MARY, THE SERVANT OF GOD (Luke 1.38) WHO HAS BEEN APPEARING TO US ??? Is this not an impure spirit that has been appearing by the power of Satan (2 Thessalonians 2.9) and by the will of God (2 Thessalonians 2.11) in order to more mislay those who will start deviating from the biblical truth? (read 2 Thessalonians 2 verses 7 and 12; 2 Corinthians 11,3-4). Also read again all this passage: 2 Thessalonians 2,6-12.
We saw appearances of a woman who said she is Mary but she is not, because impure spirits can appear to us in the forms which they want by disguise (2 Corinthians 11.14).
Indeed, we must believe that the spirit that has been appearing to us is not the real Mary because, certainly, this spirit does miracles and announces signs which are achieved but thereafter he gives us contrary directives with the ways of God, making us to become rebels. And as no word of God is vain, we had been informed in advance on such intrigues or seductions in Deuteronomy 13,1-5. (READ THIS VERY IMPORTANT PASSAGE of Deuteronomy 13,1-5).
Pray only Christ before reading. Use a bible and read in an objective way before bringing criticisms. This document comprises at the end an appendix which contains extracts of the book of PIERRE JOVANOVIC whose title is: “investigation into the existence of the guardian angelsâ€.
To worship somebody is to pay him a religious homage. To pray somebody is to say a prayer to him as a divinity. In saying prayers to somebody, we make him to become our god.
Please, note that, when you read “Mary†written in brackets, it means we refer not to the real Mary but to an impure spirit.
The passage 2 Thessalonians 2,1-12 described the appearance of the man of sin before the return of Christ (2 Thessalonians 2,1-3). This wicked one will use miracles to deceive and push people more easily to transgress the law of God, to revolt against God (2 Thessalonians 2.4).
Revelation 13,11-18 also described the same man of sin and we put ourselves the question to know if the wicked one did not already make his appearance. The description of the facts of Revelation 13,11-18 as well as an analysis of the verses of 2 Thessalonians 2,1-12 will enlighten us.
Revelation 13,11-18 reports these facts (listed from 1 to 8):
1. The man of sin will come up out of the bottomless pit (Revelation 13.11 and Revelation 11.7). He is thus an impure spirit.
2. One of his miracles consists in making fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men (Revelation 13.13). What represents this fire from heaven?
This fire is nothing but the heat of the sun; indeed, by reading Revelation 16,8-9 one realizes that the word “fire†symbolizes the heat of the sun.
On October 13th, 1917 “Mary†did a miracle in the town of Fatima in front of approximately 70000 people: the sun is detached from the firmament and made to sink in the direction of the ground as if it came to be crushed there. The people present howled then of fright and pain because of the increasing intensity of the heat which fell down on them. (See page 379 of the appendix).
3. By the means of his miracles, the man of sin asks people to make an image (an image can be a statue, for example: Isaiah 40,18-19). It pushes people to adore the image or the statue (Revelation 13,14-15).
It is with Constantine I (emperor of the christianized Roman empire) that developed the habit to represent Christ, Mary and the saints (Pierre…) and to place these images in the churches. The man of sin thus formulated his request to make an image through Constantine. At that time one adored the image of Mary who was their protective appointed. Indeed, according to the second council of Nicée, this image deserves greeting and respectful worship.
“Marie†also made such a request during an appearance around 1830 when she claimed with Zoe-Catherine Labouré the manufacturing and the wear of a miraculous medal to her effigy.
4. The wicked one will succeed in deceiving people of any social status (rich person and the poor, free and slaves) and of any age (small and great). (Revelation 13.16).
This fact rejects the thesis according to which one affirms that “the man of sin will appear when humanity will be plunged in a politico-social and economic chaos of which only he would hold the solutionsâ€.
Indeed, it is naturally and unconstrained that certain people will be deceived. On the other hand, others will be forced to worship the image of the man of sin (Revelation 13.15). That points out the iconoclastic war which burst out in the christianized Roman empire under the reign of Isaurians at the 8th century and which lasted one century.
Those which adored the images fought those which did not want to adore them.
“Mary†also deceives people of any social status and any age throughout the world (see page 421 of the appendix).
5. The man of sin will also be able to give life to the image or the statue (Revelation 13.15). Indeed, we have cases where the statue of “Mary†ran tears, spoke and bled. (See pages 422 and 426 of the appendix).
6. The man of sin will cause people of any age and any social status to receive a mark on their hand or their face (Revelation 13.16).
NOTE: God also puts a mark on his servants or his believers (Ezekiel 9.4 and verse 6; Revelation 7.3 and Ephesians 1,13-14). Paul in 1 Timothy 4.2 described this mark which the wicked one puts on his servants.
This reveals that the marks, either they come from God or the man of sin, are not physical but spiritual. This rejects the thesis according to which it is affirmed that “the mark of the wicked one will be an electronic chipâ€.
7. In Revelation 13.17 it is said that no man will be able to buy or sell except he that has the mark of the wicked one.
Indeed, if one has the mark of the wicked one that means one is identified as his believer or servant. And as a believer, one will be interested in using, buying or selling things which emanate from the man of sin, things such as statues, etc. (See page 421 of the appendix).
8. In Rvelation 13.18 it is said that the number of the man of sin is 666. That makes think of the doctrine of Holy trinity because there is no union of three persons (the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost) in one Godhead (See the document: Trinity or no trinity).
This number also makes think of three “pastors†or “shepherds†who will guide the spiritual life of believers of the wicked one (Zechariah 11.8). These 3 “pastors†are not natural people but they can act through men (Revelation 16,13-14) or appear and speak to them.
Nowadays, the mediation of Jesus (1 Timothy 2.5; Hebrews 7.25 and Colossians 3.17) “is replaced†by a triple mediation ensured by: the clergy, the “saints†(see page 480 of the appendix) and “Maryâ€. Indeed, is the pope not said to be the vicar of Christ? In addition, he is named: holy father like God (John 17.11 and Hosea 11.9).
Private or direct relationship with God as well as personal reading of the bible (1 John 2,26-27) is scarce. One prefers to turn to the clergy or to call upon the “saints†or “Mary†to approach God or to obtain favors. Then Paul questions himself and is astonished: “… why… are you subject to ordinances? …†(Colossians 2,18-22). So is the work of the wicked one through us and it will be so until the return of Christ (2 Thessalonians 2.8).
From all what we said till now, it comes out that God as well as the man of sin started to mark their servants long time ago. The man of sin has been acting for a long time without one being able to realize it. He has been acting either through us (like the Holy Ghost) or during his appearance to us. In both cases, he has been imposing his law to us which is a transgression of the law of God (Daniel prophesied on this subject in Daniel 7.25). The wicked one has been living in us and has been pushing us to obey to him.
NOTE: In Daniel 7.7 the vision of the 4th animal is in fact the christianized Roman empire; it is the 4th kingdom (Daniel 7.23) after those of “Babylonâ€, “Persian and Mèdes†and “Alexander the great (Greek kingdom)â€. Please, read again all this passage of Daniel 7,23-25.
Up to now, the habits of this christianized Roman empire still remain in certain Christian assemblies.
Then this question is put: IS IT MARY, THE SERVANT OF GOD (Luke 1.38) WHO HAS BEEN APPEARING TO US ??? Is this not an impure spirit that has been appearing by the power of Satan (2 Thessalonians 2.9) and by the will of God (2 Thessalonians 2.11) in order to more mislay those who will start deviating from the biblical truth? (read 2 Thessalonians 2 verses 7 and 12; 2 Corinthians 11,3-4). Also read again all this passage: 2 Thessalonians 2,6-12.
We saw appearances of a woman who said she is Mary but she is not, because impure spirits can appear to us in the forms which they want by disguise (2 Corinthians 11.14).
Indeed, we must believe that the spirit that has been appearing to us is not the real Mary because, certainly, this spirit does miracles and announces signs which are achieved but thereafter he gives us contrary directives with the ways of God, making us to become rebels. And as no word of God is vain, we had been informed in advance on such intrigues or seductions in Deuteronomy 13,1-5. (READ THIS VERY IMPORTANT PASSAGE of Deuteronomy 13,1-5).