Sabbath Linked Scriptures

[TrevorL]

Greetings again Gary K,

I see no need to keep this conversation going. So long.

Yes, time to move on, too much repetition and you still seem locked into your obsession.

I have been interested in how modern SDAs adapt the strange teaching and sequence of events of EG White, and yet are still locked into the concept that she predicted, that the End Times will see the introduction of a Sunday Sabbath Law. I am a member of a Facebook Group, and there are two participants that regularly advertise the impending Sunday Sabbath Law, and one of them illustrates this with various strange almost offensive cartoons. There is at least one other member who also endorses most of the various Posts. If you do an Internet search, one extensive article I encountered was "Sunday Laws are Coming". So the information that I received over 20 years ago is still current SDA teaching.

Various ones guess what will cause the introduction of the Sunday Sabbath Law. Some say the Papacy for religious reasons, and another the Papacy due to Global Warming, another claims if elected, Donald Trump will introduce this Law, but he may give the indulgences to those who love golf, and they will be able to play on his golf courses on a Sunday.

Kind regards
Trevor

 

[Gary K]

Greetings again Gary K,

Yes, time to move on, too much repetition and you still seem locked into your obsession.

I have been interested in how modern SDAs adapt the strange teaching and sequence of events of EG White, and yet are still locked into the concept that she predicted, that the End Times will see the introduction of a Sunday Sabbath Law. I am a member of a Facebook Group, and there are two participants that regularly advertise the impending Sunday Sabbath Law, and one of them illustrates this with various strange almost offensive cartoons. There is at least one other member who also endorses most of the various Posts. If you do an Internet search, one extensive article I encountered was "Sunday Laws are Coming". So the information that I received over 20 years ago is still current SDA teaching.

Various ones guess what will cause the introduction of the Sunday Sabbath Law. Some say the Papacy for religious reasons, and another the Papacy due to Global Warming, another claims if elected, Donald Trump will introduce this Law, but he may give the indulgences to those who love golf, and they will be able to play on his golf courses on a Sunday.

Kind regards
Trevor

Time will tell.

 

[JLB]

Yes

Ok, since you believe the Church should observe the Sabbath the way the children of Israel did under the law of Moses, then could you please explain how we do that today?


Under the law of Moses, those who even pick up sticks to kindle a fire to cook, were put to death.


Surely you don’t believe we are to be subject to such things.



JLB

 

[WalterandDebbie]

Ok, since you believe the Church should observe the Sabbath the way the children of Israel did under the law of Moses, then could you please explain how we do that today?


Under the law of Moses, those who even pick up sticks to kindle a fire to cook, were put to death.


Surely you don’t believe we are to be subject to such things.



JLB

JLB, I have tried to explain how we understand the Sabbath, and by doing what He says, but that we had to come to obeying His teachings.

Love, Walter

 

[JLB]

JLB, I have tried to explain how we understand the Sabbath, and by doing what He says, but that we had to come to obeying His teachings.

Love, Walter

He nor Paul never taught it was necessary to keep the Sabbath like the children of Israel were commanded to do under Moses.

The weekly Sabbath points to the rest to come.

So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ. Colossians 2:16-17

 

[WalterandDebbie]

He nor Paul never taught it was necessary to keep the Sabbath like the children of Israel were commanded to do under Moses.

The weekly Sabbath points to the rest to come.

So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ. Colossians 2:16-17

Sir, Please show where in the scriptures it teaches what you are saying, we are not judging anyone.

 

[JLB]

Sir, Please show where in the scriptures it teaches what you are saying, we are not judging anyone.

I didn't say you were judging anyone.



JLB

 

[WalterandDebbie]

I didn't say you were judging anyone.



JLB

I understand

 

[JLB]

I understand

ok

 

[WalterandDebbie]

I didn't say you were judging anyone.



JLB

Hello JLB, Getting back to:

• Mar 21, 2024
• #47

Sir, Please show where in the scriptures it teaches what you are saying, we are not judging anyone.

I didn't say you were judging anyone.



JLB

I don't think we finished our conversation, Sir, because you have not shown it in post #45, or did you? This is what I'm talking about: He nor Paul never taught it was necessary to keep the Sabbath like the children of Israel were commanded to do under Moses.

Did the Lord ever say this? Thank you.

Love, Walter

 

[JLB]

Did the Lord ever say this? Thank you.

I have found nothing from Jesus or Paul about the Church keeping the Sabbath.

On the contrary, Paul wrote:

13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, 14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. 15 Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.
16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ. Colossians 2:13-17

 

[WalterandDebbie]

I have found nothing from Jesus or Paul about the Church keeping the Sabbath.

On the contrary, Paul wrote:

13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, 14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. 15 Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.
16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ. Colossians 2:13-17

Good morning JLB, As to your reply we thank you, as to Jesus and Paul I understand they both and others had customs of keeping The Sabbath.

Luke 4:1-44, Acts 17:1-34

Love, Walter

 

[JLB]

Good morning JLB, As to your reply we thank you, as to Jesus and Paul I understand they both and others had customs of keeping The Sabbath.

Luke 4:1-44, Acts 17:1-34

Love, Walter

And he preached in the synagogues of Galilee. Luke 4:44

Therefore he reasoned in the synagogue with the Jews and with the Gentile worshipers, and in the marketplace daily with those who happened to be there. Acts 17:17


Brother, surely you understand that the sabbath is when the unbelieving Jews gathered in the synagogue, and was simply an opportune time to present the Gospel to them.

Surely you don't think that attending a synagogue is somehow the way we are Christians are to observe the Sabbath under the New Covenant?

Right?



JLB

 

[WalterandDebbie]

And he preached in the synagogues of Galilee. Luke 4:44

Therefore he reasoned in the synagogue with the Jews and with the Gentile worshipers, and in the marketplace daily with those who happened to be there. Acts 17:17


Brother, surely you understand that the sabbath is when the unbelieving Jews gathered in the synagogue, and was simply an opportune time to present the Gospel to them.

Surely you don't think that attending a synagogue is somehow the way we are Christians are to observe the Sabbath under the New Covenant?

Right?



JLB

No, Sir, It is the way we understand to follow His steps as I explained to you before do you remember Brother?

3-9-24 post 19 page 1: https://christianforums.net/threads/sabbath-linked-scriptures.104608/

Love, Walter