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So is what you're saying is that you jumped around in God's Word, and only researched certain topics that you were aware of beforehand?
Pard said:The problem is, some [prophecy] stuff is dotted around here and there. Like there is one line in Matthew, maybe, and then you do not see anything again about end times for another five chapters...it seems to be a VERY large subject. It's really the last large topic I have yet to really form an opinion on.
Pard said:Actually, I was trying to steer clear of what people say. I have made my own views on most biblical topics. I have thus far totally avoided End time stuff, and I wanted to formulate my own view.
So I was looking for the actually scriptures that pertain to end times.
I find myself agreeing with veteran and David often. Having an exhaustive knowledge of the Word is key to BEGINNING to understand the prophesies, however the apostles made it clear that only God's true prophets are given the understandings; 1 Peter 1:10-12 Concerning this salvation, the prophets, who spoke of the grace that was to come to you, searched intently and with the greatest care, trying to find out the time and circumstances to which the Spirit of Christ in them was pointing when HE predicted the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow. It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves but you, when they spoke of the things that have now been told to you by those who have preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven. EVEN ANGELS LONG TO LOOK INTO THESE THINGS. (NIV) Emphasis mine.veteran said:So is what you're saying is that you jumped around in God's Word, and only researched certain topics that you were aware of beforehand?
You're not going to get a real understanding in God's Word that way. It's better firstly to start in Genesis 1 and go all the way through to the end of Revelation 22. That way you won't have to ask where something can be found in God's Word. You'll also know when others claim something is written in The Bible when it isn't.
Like David showed, end time prophecy is mixed within historical Scripture. Just in order to be able to separate Bible history Scripture from end time prophecy Scripture both must be read at the same time.
I do not have an exhaustive list of end time scripture but I do have a pretty good compulation of 2nd coming scriptures.Pard said:Does anyone have an exhaustive list of all the scripture that speaks of end times?
Pard I think studying scripture and coming up with your own understanding instead of believing everything the ''church'' teaches is a great idea (as long as you are being guided by the Holy Spirit of course). Also I would say for your age you are very doctrinally sound.veteran said:So is what you're saying is that you jumped around in God's Word, and only researched certain topics that you were aware of beforehand?
You're not going to get a real understanding in God's Word that way. It's better firstly to start in Genesis 1 and go all the way through to the end of Revelation 22. That way you won't have to ask where something can be found in God's Word. You'll also know when others claim something is written in The Bible when it isn't.
Like David showed, end time prophecy is mixed within historical Scripture. Just in order to be able to separate Bible history Scripture from end time prophecy Scripture both must be read at the same time.
Google ''historical premilennialism'' I know you want to go by scripture and that is the best idea, but the historical view is the view of the apostles and their disciples. They were closest to what Jesus actually taught.Pard said:So is what you're saying is that you jumped around in God's Word, and only researched certain topics that you were aware of beforehand?
Oh no, I am now proud to say I have read the Bible cover to cover.
I know where the bulk of the prophecy on end times is. The problem is, some stuff is dotted around here and there. Like there is one line in Matthew, maybe, and then you do not see anything again about end times for another five chapters.
As for the "researching topics I was aware of", not exactly. I have a pretty good grasp on most issues, I just have always avoided end time stuff because it seems to be a VERY large subject. It's really the last large topic I have yet to really form an opinion on.
David505 said:Nevertheless, Jack Van Impe published a prophecy Bible; and, I guess, others have published similar versions, along with extensive lists and cross-references. Yet, such lists might be influenced by interpretive bias.quote]
Pard said:Actually, I was trying to steer clear of what people say. I have made my own views on most biblical topics. I have thus far totally avoided End time stuff, and I wanted to formulate my own view.
So I was looking for the actually scriptures that pertain to end times.