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SPIRITUAL BELIEVERS Part 8

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SPIRITUAL BELIEVERS
PART 8


Inside “our own†sufficiency, we are in “I will doâ€: I will pull down my barns, and then I will build greater; and then I will bestow all my fruits and my goods into “I will†take it easy in eat, drink and be happy (Lk 12:18-19 with 1Cor 10:6-8). Jesus did not come to do His own will; but the will of He who sent Him (Jn 6:38). Many [attempt to] go in a way, [through church] which leads to destruction (7:14-13). The holy doctrine for our [understanding;- Pr 9:10] cannot be given unto those dogs and swine, who cannot look into it without astonishment, because they are hypocrites (Mt 7:28, 6-5).

Without the doctrine of Christ, we are under the law of the prophets, which is to do unto others as we would have them do unto us (7:28, 12). We are either under the doctrine of grace or under the law [under grace we are telling others what GOD is doing, under the law we are telling others what “WE†are doing] (Rom 6:14, 17). Under grace we are made free from the sin of saying that we were free (6:14, 22, 20). UNDER THE LAW WE ARE IN THE SIN OF SAYING THAT WE ARE FREE FROM THE NEED TO BE “MADE†FREE (6:14, 20).

Many are in this broad way that leads to destruction, because they cannot find the entrance into the narrow way unto life (Mt 7:13-14). Not all who call Jesus Lord is into entering into the kingdom of heaven by the will of the heavenly Father (7:21). Unless we are delivered from the law, we cannot be in newness of spirit (7:6). For in the oldness of the law to will is present within us, so that we do not know how to perform what needs to be done (7:18-19). Remember under the law, we are to do unto others what we would have them do unto us (Mt 7:12). This is the mutual saying that I do; but cannot do!

What do you get when you bring two people together in I will to do you, because you will to do me? Doodoo .. There is a war between the members of those who are herein wretched, because they are not delivered from this present evil that is in them (Rom 7:23-24, 21). Jesus gave Himself for our sins under this present evil, so that we could be according to the will of the Father (Gal 1:4). HOW YOU GO ABOUT TO DO THE WILL OF THE HEAVENLY FATHER IS HOW I KNOW YOU (Mt 7:20-21). One way is good; and the other way is evil [what you can do in “your own†will IS evil] (7:19).

I have had my senses exercised by the strong meat of the word of God to discern good from evil (Heb 5:14-13). Which meat is HOW to do the will of God (Jn 4:34). For I know what the gift of God is, so that I could ASK for it (4:10); Which gift divides soul from spirit so I could be according to the will of God (Heb 4:12, 2:4). We weary God, when we do not ASK for this!!!!! (Is 2:9). This is why Jesus said, Ask for this to be gifted unto you (Mt 7:7). For those who ask receive (7:8). For it is said again that everyone who asks receives the gift of God through the Holy Spirit by the heavenly Father (Lk 11:10, 13 with Heb 2:4).

Wherein we are to be praying unto the heavenly Father, for His will to be done, because we are asking Him to deliver us from evil, so that we would not be in the above temptation (Lk 11:2-4). For the kingdom of God comes upon those who are therefore delivered from evil into God’s will (11:4, 20). For this is how we are with Him and not against Him (11:23). The uncleanness of spirit in men is “I will†(11:24). This is the lie of the devil, who is the father of this lie, which is that we can do [God’s will] in “I will†[our own will] (Jn 8:44).

You cannot get into a worse state than to continue in “I will†(Lk 11:26, 24). Are you in that evil generation of believers who cannot hear these words of God unto keeping them? (11:29-28). Those who are evil are full of darkness (11:34). Unless you are full of the light, you cannot give the light (11:36). There is a woe/curse upon those who pass over the love of God for the love of this world 11:42-43). Such hypocrites (11:44). Those who are sent within God’s will unto this generation [of the self-willed] are persecuted (11:49). These [pastors] have not entered in themselves is why they hinder others from entering in: For they have taken this key of knowledge away from others (11:52).

Wherein people are in “I doâ€, because they are in “I will do†(12:17-18). All this leads to is “I will eat, drink, and be happy as fools at play (12:19-20 with 1Cor 10:6-8). For these [who are in “their own willâ€] are into everything for themselves (Lk 12:21). But our life is about more than this (12:22-23). We are not able to do the least of things (12:26); is why we need God to feed us (12:24). All things shall be added unto those who are seeking the kingdom of God first (12:31).

The work of iniquity is to be in the name of Jesus by “our own will†to do God’s will by wonderful works (Mt 7:24-21). Rather those who are in God’s will are wise men upon the Rock (7:24). Otherwise we get beaten up until we fall as foolish men upon the sand (7:25-26). This is the doctrine that I teach (7:28-29); Otherwise we are under the law, as those who should do unto others, as we would have others do unto us (7:12). And this is because we have not asked the Father to give us those good things, which are gifts (7:11).

We are to be known by those good fruits, which are not evil fruits (7:20, 18). Good fruit is found in doing God’s will (7:10, 20, 24). Evil fruit is found in doing “our own†will (7:18, 21). We cannot hear to do without the foundation (Lk 6:49). We have to dig deeply into what we hear to have this foundation on the Rock (6:48-49). What is the point of calling Jesus Lord, when all that you can bring forth is evil? (6:46-45). Evil men are known as thorns (6:45-44).

Their fruit is corrupt, not good (6:43). These hypocrites do not have the insightful perception to be as perfect as Jesus (6:42-40). The beam ministry of hypocrisy is to be without perception for perfection (6:42-40). This ministry of the beam is against being as perfect as Jesus (6:42-40); Meaning; it is against the laying of the foundation of repentance for faith toward God in the doctrine of Christ (Heb 6:1). Wherein we can follow after Jesus, our forerunner, within that which is within the veil (6:19-20). This is the entrance, which few find by the narrow way unto life (7:13-14).
 
What do you think is meant by "walking in the light"?
 
That's Paul...what about your experience of this?


No, not just Paul because the word of God is Living, not dead... so all those who are the children of light because they were in darkness, are walking in the truth in all goodness and righteousness. These are able to prove what is acceptable to the Lord [by using the Scriptures, not their opinions]; which walk is now loving (Eph 5:8-10, 2).
 
No, not just Paul because the word of God is Living, not dead... so all those who are the children of light because they were in darkness, are walking in the truth in all goodness and righteousness. These are able to prove what is acceptable to the Lord [by using the Scriptures, not their opinions]; which walk is now loving (Eph 5:8-10, 2).


So instead of our own testimony we point to people who are not here?

What is the point of we being here?

If the word is living...it is not in a book...but it moves in people. We are to show forth the truth by our lives...not just pointing to a book. Otherwise we just need to fill a building with bibles and then call it a church! (well, actually that IS what we've done :shame)

So what does the living word...walk in the Light...mean to you personally?
 
So instead of our own testimony we point to people who are not here?

What is the point of we being here?

If the word is living...it is not in a book...but it moves in people. We are to show forth the truth by our lives...not just pointing to a book. Otherwise we just need to fill a building with bibles and then call it a church! (well, actually that IS what we've done :shame)

So what does the living word...walk in the Light...mean to you personally?


Quite interesting that you would say that the living words of God are not really living, they are just in some "book".
My experience comes from the Scriptures, which are very alive for me because ,"The word of God is powerful and sharp to pierce through people and discern their thoughts and intents" (Heb 4:12).

Now because you made the remark that the Holy Bible is just some book to you, it is not for me. My experience is exactly the Scriptures I gave to you, this is why I gave them because I not only have learned these things intellectually, I have also come to experience them.
 
Quite interesting that you would say that the living words of God are not really living, they are just in some "book".
My experience comes from the Scriptures, which are very alive for me because ,"The word of God is powerful and sharp to pierce through people and discern their thoughts and intents" (Heb 4:12).

Now because you made the remark that the Holy Bible is just some book to you, it is not for me. My experience is exactly the Scriptures I gave to you, this is why I gave them because I not only have learned these things intellectually, I have also come to experience them.

LOL You must be used to arguing or something! :)

You are reading in your own pre-defensive arguments to any response one could make here.

I'm the one trying to get some actual life out of the book!!! ;)

You are just citing verses! Anybody can do that (and does)


But you are being defensive here about what? Is it wrong to ask what you have experienced or are experiencing? You claim to have biblical experience...which and what?
 
LOL You must be used to arguing or something! :)

You are reading in your own pre-defensive arguments to any response one could make here.

I'm the one trying to get some actual life out of the book!!! ;)

You are just citing verses! Anybody can do that (and does)


But you are being defensive here about what? Is it wrong to ask what you have experienced or are experiencing? You claim to have biblical experience...which and what?

Let me say first is that I don't need to argue with anyone or debate, but rather reason within the Scriptures. Now your saying that anyone can cite verses, well yes this is very true however many don't know the "meaning" of the verses they are citing. This is the difference between myself and others. You are also stating that I am being defensive just because I gave you the scriptures on my experiences? This doesn't make sense to me. Anyway I gave you my answer and you cannot seem to receive it. This is not on me. This is my last response...
 
Let me say first is that I don't need to argue with anyone or debate, but rather reason within the Scriptures. Now your saying that anyone can cite verses, well yes this is very true however many don't know the "meaning" of the verses they are citing. This is the difference between myself and others. You are also stating that I am being defensive just because I gave you the scriptures on my experiences? This doesn't make sense to me. Anyway I gave you my answer and you cannot seem to receive it. This is not on me. This is my last response...

:(Thanks I see where you are coming from now!
 
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