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Bible Study Surpassing Rest

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It is well to note that the differences in receiving from God between the prior covenant of Israel and the present covenant of the believer in Christ is that of how attaining the things of God derive. In both covenants, faith is always the means “through” (not “by” –Eph 2:8) which blessings come but in the former they came to the individual first by entering a union with God through faith, then receiving the blessings according to their level of obedience, e.g. do this and that and you will receive this and that.

In the present covenant all the blessings of God are received upon union with Him (2 Pe 1:3), but the encouragement and peace they impart are only utilized according to progressive maturity in the Word of God which teaches us how to walk in them, of which He “works” (Phil 2:13) in all who are born again.
- NC




Surpassing Rest

Let us look at the difference between Israel entering the land, and the man in Christ. Everything depended upon their act. They must go in and possess the land. True, God brought them in, but they had to act in order to possess, and those who went in without faith did not remain possessors.

Now the believer is united to Christ, and is in full title and ownership of the heavenly places before he enjoys any of it (physically enters—NC). True, as he accepts in faith the portion which grace has given him, the greater is his sense of possession and consequently of his enjoyment (the more we know of our eventual possession of heaven the more we can enjoy ourselves in anticipating it—NC). In the one case the act was necessary in order to obtain possession; in the other, there was as much title before enjoying the possession, as there was consequent on possession.

If I only possess heaven in proportion to my act of faith, as was the case with Israel respecting Canaan, I have no right to possession but as I secure it; my sense of owning the land is only as I set foot on it. Hence I am necessarily anxious as to my progress; my possession depends on it. But with a believer now, he has full title before he lays hold of any of it, and every apprehension of his portion only stimulates him the more to advance, and to be in association with Him who is there.

It is the vastness of the blessing which he has in association with Christ, which makes him long to apprehend it more, as Paul says, “That I may apprehend that for which I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.” It is the breadth and length, and depth and height, which occupy him who has Christ dwelling in his heart by faith. He does not depend on his own progress for assurance of possession, but he is so assured of the unsearchable riches of Christ, as his portion, that he dwells on it in faith; and thus, as the greatness of his possession realized, he longs to enter still more into what he is sure is his.

We all know the tendency there is in our hearts, and often in proportion to our earnestness to be in the line of attainment, instead of being simple recipients; and it is well for us to note the difference in the state which the effort to attain produces, from that which grace or the mere acceptance of gift produces.

One who is in the former is never even; he is elated at any sense of his progress, and depressed if he becomes conscious of his losing ground, though generally he is too well pleased with his own engrossment of desire to advance, and obtain more. In the other, in proportion as the grace is simply held, there is great balance and evenness.

There is ever a sense of being far behind in enjoying the vastness of what has been conferred; and there is the greatest thankfulness for a sight of it, while with each new acquisition, there is the sense that “the draught which lulls our thirsting awakens our thirst anew.” The one is like a man making a fortune; while the other is exploring the vastness of the gift bestowed upon him; one necessarily is occupied with what he is doing; the other is praising the Lord for all that He has shared with him.

Surely the one with boundless resources in Christ, and with any fidelity of heart for Him, must surpass the most devoted heart that does not know its portion in its object. The Queen of Sheba is after all only an enraptured spectator, while the believer is united to Christ and participates with Him in His things: and surely the latter must, because of intuitive or intrinsic grace, surpass the former.

- J B Stoney


Excerpt from MJS devotional:
“The Christian suffers the same calamities as others, perhaps even worse; he faces difficulties and losses in the things of this life; he has to be prepared to meet death itself. In all these circumstances he is calm and trustful; he is not only sure of ultimately going to heaven, but already abides there and enjoys something of it in his own heart.

“God is real to him and ever near. He knows a peace which passes all understanding, and he experiences a joy which no man can take from him. This, surely, should be our testimony in the world, but it can only be as the Lord Jesus Himself lives out this life in us.” -H.F.
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I can deal with most of this but the opening premise is just wrong. To illustrate my point we'll go with John 14:6 and the evidence of this truth is found in Matthew 27:51-53 when the Old Testament Saints were observed, Just after Jesus died, had preached the Gospel to them and did away with Paradise because by accepting He they had looked forward to, they, then, went to Heaven, shutting Paradise, a.k.a. Abraham's Buxom. Leaving only a hell full of unrepentant waiting for the Mellennial Reign of the Christ to end.

Other than that, great article.
 
I can deal with most of this but the opening premise is just wrong. To illustrate my point we'll go with John 14:6 and the evidence of this truth is found in Matthew 27:51-53 when the Old Testament Saints were observed, Just after Jesus died, had preached the Gospel to them and did away with Paradise because by accepting He they had looked forward to, they, then, went to Heaven, shutting Paradise, a.k.a. Abraham's Buxom. Leaving only a hell full of unrepentant waiting for the Mellennial Reign of the Christ to end.

Other than that, great article.[/QUOT)
Hi Brother Bill - Thanks for your reply. I'm having difficulty relating the passages you presented to Heaven and Paradise, so if you can share your intention it should help. Presently I have not seen a change in the meanings of Heaven and Paradise, for I see the titles are synonymous throughout the entirety of Scripture (Luke 23:43; 2 co 12:4; Rev 2:7). Thanks for your input!
 
And if you got that from what I said, I apologize and ask you to please reread my post, that is not at all what I said nor intended and I certainly do not believe that.
 
And if you got that from what I said, I apologize and ask you to please reread my post, that is not at all what I said nor intended and I certainly do not believe that.
Okay, I'll get back to you if I can get enough understanding of your meaning, thanks.
 
dirtfarmer here

Is the believer to enter into the rest that is spoken of in Hebrews 4, or is it only the Jews that can enter into that rest? The Jews the sacrifices are for restoration of fellowship, not to establish the relationship. It was the blood of the lamb without blemish or spot that was applied to the door post that brought salvation to Israel and they celebrated Passover every year. We don't celebrated Passover, we celebrate the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

We find 2 different ways of attaining the gift of salvation being taught today. Faith and faith plus works. Faith doctrine teaches attainment by being a simple recipient through believing with works accompanying afterwards. Then there is faith plus works. The difference is the state of which effort is exerted. Faith is simply accepting the gift and exploring the vastness of the gift. Faith-works is elated with the progress that is made and depression, if becoming conscious of losing ground.
 
dirtfarmer here
Is the believer to enter into the rest that is spoken of in Hebrews 4, or is it only the Jews that can enter into that rest?
Hi DF - Thanks for your reply! Heb 4 concerns only the Christian (v 3) as shown by those who were unbelievers (v 2).

The Jews the sacrifices are for restoration of fellowship, not to establish the relationship. It was the blood of the lamb without blemish or spot that was applied to the door post that brought salvation to Israel and they celebrated Passover every year.
I would say Judaism mixed with faith "was", not "is" a way to God. Only through Christ can one now enter into union with God.

We don't celebrated Passover, we celebrate the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Good point and true it is that only Christians can participate in the faith of all Christ did, and does.

We find 2 different ways of attaining the gift of salvation being taught today. Faith and faith plus works. Faith doctrine teaches attainment by being a simple recipient through believing with works accompanying afterwards. Then there is faith plus works. The difference is the state of which effort is exerted. Faith is simply accepting the gift and exploring the vastness of the gift. Faith-works is elated with the progress that is made and depression, if becoming conscious of losing ground.
I find only a single true way to God--through faith--and the works manifest but not effect union with Him.

God's blessings to your Family!
 
Hi DF - Thanks for your reply! Heb 4 concerns only the Christian (v 3) as shown by those who were unbelievers (v 2).


I would say Judaism mixed with faith "was", not "is" a way to God. Only through Christ can one now enter into union with God.


Good point and true it is that only Christians can participate in the faith of all Christ did, and does.


I find only a single true way to God--through faith--and the works manifest but not effect union with Him.

God's blessings to your Family!

hello netchaplian, dirtfarmer here

I believe that Hebrews was written by Paul to show the Jewish believers that Christ is superior to the law.
 
hello netchaplian, dirtfarmer here

I believe that Hebrews was written by Paul to show the Jewish believers that Christ is superior to the law.
Amen, I agree, and I believe it's one of the primary reasons why His excellency is shown throughout Scripture. Nice comment!
 
Hello Dear Brother Chaplain. Thank you for that informative thread. I especially liked....Ephesians 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God.

I see two important understandings of the words "by grace" and "through faith". The reason it says "by" grace and not "through" grace, is the BY indicates that grace cannot be my energy source, it has to be outside of me, it's Jesus' energy source.

On the other hand, "through faith" is a process that belongs to my system of confidence in the promises of God thru the Scriptures. So, thank you for your thread which really got me thinking and praising our Lord for His goodness.
 
Hello Dear Brother Chaplain. Thank you for that informative thread. I especially liked....Ephesians 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God.

I see two important understandings of the words "by grace" and "through faith". The reason it says "by" grace and not "through" grace, is the BY indicates that grace cannot be my energy source, it has to be outside of me, it's Jesus' energy source.

On the other hand, "through faith" is a process that belongs to my system of confidence in the promises of God thru the Scriptures. So, thank you for your thread which really got me thinking and praising our Lord for His goodness.
Hi dear Brother, and good comments in differentiating between "by" and "through," it makes the difference in being generally correct or specifically accurate, which are useful for the level of understanding things. I think it also note- worthy to realize that both grace and faith are required, and that they are both "gifts" and do not originate with man. If anyone has not these it's because they "ask amiss for them" (Jam 4:3); and if they ask amiss it's because God is not "working" in them to "desire" otherwise (Phil 2:13).

God bless us and God be blessed!
 
O my my. Dear Chaplain, You hit the nail perfectly. Both are gifts. Thanks for the reminder. That reminds me that I'm only a branch, and Jesus is the Vine and I get nothing that He does not offer.
 
O my my. Dear Chaplain, You hit the nail perfectly. Both are gifts. Thanks for the reminder. That reminds me that I'm only a branch, and Jesus is the Vine and I get nothing that He does not offer.
Yes, He produces (Vine), we "bare" (display) John 15:8.
 
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