we must tell or be told that most Christians have been or are on this road for the non repented unforgiveable sin of blasphemy against the H/S by claiming inspiration, guidance and indwelling and producing fruits of division, divergence, differences, disputes, confusion, chaos etc and much worse all attributed to the H/S - any comments - twinc
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The broad road......to hell !
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Nathan
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Everyone defines things different ways. I am going to be very blunt. Sometimes your posts cause division, divergence, differences, disputes, and confusion. *edit(sometimes most everyone here has posts like this)
The broad road means that its the 'easy' road to go down. For a number of reasons. Think about what broad roads vs narrow roads meant to them back in that day. A narrow road was difficult to maneuver, and seeming dangerous for a variety of reasons.
The broad road was easy and it was broad because more people went down it. Lots less 'danger' than the narrow road.
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Right. That's what I was addressing.
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Jesus is talking about himself as the only way to life, he is the gate, but many follow other things in the world. We find life and peace in Christ, the gate. Its just saying only few live in the joy, hope, and peace of the Truth.
"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."
"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."
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even a try to cover up just will not but only make it worse blasphemy and unforgiveable - so Jesus is responsible for division, divergence, differences, disputes, despair, confusion and chaos - not the inspiration, guidance or indwelling H/S - yours is the false prosperity gospel of love, joy, hope, peace, truth but it is by their fruits that we should know them - btw all you have done is shifted the blame and tried to create further blasphemy by pitting the H/S against Jesus - twinc
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"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."
"I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. They will come in and go out, and find pasture."
Some verses say door. Gate/Door same thing. What's the difference between a door and a gate.
"I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. They will come in and go out, and find pasture."
Some verses say door. Gate/Door same thing. What's the difference between a door and a gate.
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Twinc, what are you doing and why are you doing it. Nathan beat me to it but I fully agree with what he said. You are selling division and trying to bring brother against brother.
Speak of fruits and look at your own! Where is the message that brings out the better in men? Yes, broad is the road that leads to destruction. And those on it likely don't even know it. Otherwise they would step off of it. For your own well being take stalk of your own words to not cause division, disputes, and confusion. And instead look back to what the fruit of the Spirit is. Seek it out and learn to act in those ways instead of these.
If there is a fault about someone, what are you to do?! Proclaim it vaguely in a general way so everyone can see but no one know who or why you say it? What good does that do? Here is the test, but here also is a clue. Jesus already taught how to handle a brother or sister in faith who wrongs you. Seek his ways Twinc, and if you do not know the passage that I'm referring to, ask, and I'll let you know. It is better to come to the person first privitely and tell them their error, and if they see their wrong and change you've won them back. If they are not convinced and you still see them as doing wrong there are two more things you can do. Neither of which is what your doing now. But even if all things pan out that they are unchanged, what do you do then? Leave them, and teat them as you would a pagan.
It is clear that Jesus gives us permission to point out eachother's faults. But His instructions in doing so show the act of love to help them better themselves. Who has done this that you see? Who has claimed falsely that they hold the Holy Spirit in them? If you have an answer, then speak to them privitely about it. That way they can vindicate themselves without having a public tribunal, or they can correct themselves without public shame.
And for your own benifit please study on the fruits themselves and do your best to embody them so you do not cause more reason to quarrel among Christians.
Speak of fruits and look at your own! Where is the message that brings out the better in men? Yes, broad is the road that leads to destruction. And those on it likely don't even know it. Otherwise they would step off of it. For your own well being take stalk of your own words to not cause division, disputes, and confusion. And instead look back to what the fruit of the Spirit is. Seek it out and learn to act in those ways instead of these.
If there is a fault about someone, what are you to do?! Proclaim it vaguely in a general way so everyone can see but no one know who or why you say it? What good does that do? Here is the test, but here also is a clue. Jesus already taught how to handle a brother or sister in faith who wrongs you. Seek his ways Twinc, and if you do not know the passage that I'm referring to, ask, and I'll let you know. It is better to come to the person first privitely and tell them their error, and if they see their wrong and change you've won them back. If they are not convinced and you still see them as doing wrong there are two more things you can do. Neither of which is what your doing now. But even if all things pan out that they are unchanged, what do you do then? Leave them, and teat them as you would a pagan.
It is clear that Jesus gives us permission to point out eachother's faults. But His instructions in doing so show the act of love to help them better themselves. Who has done this that you see? Who has claimed falsely that they hold the Holy Spirit in them? If you have an answer, then speak to them privitely about it. That way they can vindicate themselves without having a public tribunal, or they can correct themselves without public shame.
And for your own benifit please study on the fruits themselves and do your best to embody them so you do not cause more reason to quarrel among Christians.
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The broad road was the main road into the city through one of the main gates. They had shopping malls and vendors. Often this road and gate was where they would have parades for cheering visitors.
Then there was the little night time gate for residents to come and go at night. Difficult to find and usually only used by residents who had intimate knowledge of the city. The marauding armies wouldn't know about it.
There was no fanfare for this gate...No vendors or well wishes.
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I can see that. I think beyond the entrance/exit points is where you see the example I was giving. But the one you give would be very good for the difficulty/easyness of going through the two gates.
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How do you repent of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit?
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I understand. Thanks.
What I have not come to understand yet is what you mean by the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.