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The Fatal Flaw!

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-----------------------------------------TEMPTING CHRIST!-------------------------------------------

THOSE WHO PRESUMPTUOUSLY TEMPT GOD BY CLAIMING ONE OR TWO VERSE PROMISES, EVEN FROM CHRIST'S VERY OWN WORD WITHOUT THE ETERNAL COVENANT CONDITIONS IS WHAT satan & his crew do!

Psalm 91 (satan himself, quotes almost for Word... to Christ the Word Himself , this Promise! And what is wrong with this promise??)
[8] Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
[9] Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;

(Surely so far, there is NO DOUBT that these rest or the verse can be claimed! But [FIRST] the CONDITION to the Promise must be that anyone claiming the Promise [must be as the above!] Rom. 8:1's [IN CHRIST TO HAVE NO CONDEMNATION]. And to claim any one or two verse promises or [ALL PROMISES] while not being [IN CHRIST] is Total Presumption! Psalms 19:13 which leads to the Great Transgression! And would one IN CHRIST do this very thing? Lets see???)

[10] There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.
[11] For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
[12] They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.
(Here above is the rest of Christ's Words of conditional promise, and here [ONLY] is what satan quotes + his [only] belivisms ones 'desire' and teach for truth as well! And ALL/MOST ALL the Rev. 17:1-5 'ABOMINATION OF THE EARTH' ones claim these beautiful Promises while yet OMITTING THE CONDITIONS to all Salvational Covenant Requirements, as do the NO Works OF OBEDIENCE & Teachers of ONLY BELIVISM DO! )
Matt.4 (on comes satan & his repeated crew! of Eccl.5:15!)
[1] Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
[2] And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.
[3] And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
[4] But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
(first we see that Christ states to the devil (and his 'desired' crew) the condition for His given or promised Word, that of using all 66 Books, never just one or two verses, but [ALL OF THE WORD OF GOD]!

[5] Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,
[6] And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.

(think of the millions of dollars the Rev. 17:1-5 & Jer. 17:5 + have made by doing & teaching this promise alone by only believism + NO Loving WORK OF OBEDIENCE! And Christ's next verse?? Who even reads His Complete REQUIRED BOOK to find where HE CHRIST GIVES THE CONDITION TO ALL OF HIS SAVATIONAL PROMISES FROM??? (but few!)

[7] Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

And where did Christ find the [Eternal Condition to His Salvational Covenant Promise?] Deut. 6:16! But seeing that that was the REQUIRED CONDITION, lets see the preceding REQUIRED TRUTH AS WELL! Deut 6..

[1] Now these are the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments, which the LORD your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess it:
(and Eccl. 3:15 'required' repeat finds some of us getting ready for our land of Canaan as well, huh? + the others of Rev. 17:5 as well!)
[2] That thou mightest fear the LORD thy God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son's son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged.
[3] Hear therefore, O Israel, and observe to do it; that it may be well with thee, and that ye may increase mightily, as the LORD God of thy fathers hath promised thee, in the land that floweth with milk and honey.
[4] Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
[5] And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
[6] And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
[7] And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
[8] And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.

And you all today ones thumb your nose at the Condition's of the Godhead, '.. and their backs toward the temple of the Lord, and their faces toward the east, and they worshiped the sun toward the east.' ... 'and, lo, they put the branch to the nose.' .. huh? Eze. 8:16-18

---Elijah
 
Christians aren't satan...we know what the Word tells us because we have it written on our hearts.
Those who put themselves under the law must obey in every point or be guilty of all.
James 2:10 said:
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
There is no more condemnation for believers...we have been washed in the blood.
John 5:24 said:
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Romans 5:16 said:
And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
[quote="Romans 8:1":2e5k3xla]There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
[/quote:2e5k3xla]
 
glorydaz said:
Christians aren't satan...we know what the Word tells us because we have it written on our hearts.
Those who put themselves under the law must obey in every point or be guilty of all.
James 2:10 said:
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
There is no more condemnation for believers...we have been washed in the blood.
Romans 5:16"]And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
[quote="Romans 8:1":aosoo2p7]There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
[/quote:aosoo2p7]


It seems that you proved the point! I agree with your posted verses! Rom. 8:1 sum's it up. Only God knows if one is IN CHRIST or not. Thanks!

--Elijah
 
Elijah674 said:
glorydaz said:
Christians aren't satan...we know what the Word tells us because we have it written on our hearts.
Those who put themselves under the law must obey in every point or be guilty of all.
James 2:10 said:
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
There is no more condemnation for believers...we have been washed in the blood.
Romans 5:16"]And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
[quote="Romans 8:1":pdcqr8c4]There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.


It seems that you proved the point! I agree with your posted verses! Rom. 8:1 sum's it up. Only God knows if one is IN CHRIST or not. Thanks!

--Elijah[/quote:pdcqr8c4]

Just God and the one who is filled with His Spirit. It's the blessed assurance we have as His children.
Hebrews 10:22 said:
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
 
It seems that you proved the point! I agree with your posted verses! Rom. 8:1 sum's it up. Only God knows if one is IN CHRIST or not. Thanks!

--Elijah[/quote]

Just God and the one who is filled with His Spirit. It's the blessed assurance we have as His children.
Hebrews 10:22 said:
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
[/quote]


This I do not agree with, other than by faith. --Elijah
 
Elijah674 said:
Just God and the one who is filled with His Spirit. It's the blessed assurance we have as His children.
Hebrews 10:22 said:
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.


This I do not agree with, other than by faith. --Elijah

Since we're saved by faith, it's a given.
I hope brother Vince doesn't mind if I quote him from another thread.
Vince wrote:
Can you KNOW that you are saved? Can you be sure that you weren't deluded into thinking that you were saved?

When I first accepted Christ, I KNEW that I was saved. My Catholic friends pointed out, correctly, that I couldn't go by feelings, but I explained that it wasn't a feeling. I KNEW that I was saved.

Later I found Romans 8:16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,

That's what I had.
:amen
 
Hebrews 10:22 said:
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
[/quote]


This I do not agree with, other than by faith. --Elijah[/quote]

Since we're saved by faith, it's a given.
I hope brother Vince doesn't mind if I quote him from another thread.
Vince wrote:
Can you KNOW that you are saved? Can you be sure that you weren't deluded into thinking that you were saved?

When I first accepted Christ, I KNEW that I was saved. My Catholic friends pointed out, correctly, that I couldn't go by feelings, but I explained that it wasn't a feeling. I KNEW that I was saved.

Later I found Romans 8:16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,

That's what I had.
:amen[/quote]

Hey, this is NOTHING personal, OK? I also know the POSITIVES of Heb. 6:1-5. I HAVE BEEN MADE A PARTAKER OF THE HOLY GHOST +! But I also read Heb. 6:6 & realize that God has [more required Truth] for me to accept or reject all the time! Hosea. 4:6 + Rom. 8:14... if I will? Will I??? 'LED', but not forced or driven. And the Ernest of the Holy Spirit is the Closing of ones life yet.

--Elijah
 
Elijah674 said:
Hey, this is NOTHING personal, OK? I also know the POSITIVES of Heb. 6:1-5. I HAVE BEEN MADE A PARTAKER OF THE HOLY GHOST +! But I also read Heb. 6:6 & realize that God has [more required Truth] for me to accept or reject all the time! Hosea. 4:6 + Rom. 8:14... if I will? Will I??? 'LED', but not forced or driven. And the Ernest of the Holy Spirit is the Closing of ones life yet.

--Elijah

I don't take it personally.
I understand where you're coming from, because I've been there.
I'm nearing my expiration date on this old earth, and can attest our Saviour has never once let me down. ;)

Does a shepherd allow his sheep to wander off?
No, he carries a staff to smack them when they head in the wrong direction.
He pulls them out a pit when they fall in.
He fights off the wolves and protects them from other predators that sneak in unawares.
Do the sheep make it to the sheepfold by their own efforts? No.
And the Good Shepherd will lose none the Father has given.

Those who have been born again have no end of life.
We merely discard our tent.
We have entered into eternity, already.

Hosea was speaking of the children of Israel...as Paul shows in Rom. 10.
Hosea 4:6 said:
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
Romans 10:1-3 said:
Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
 
Well we can dis/agree,huh? But not with God. :crying God Words SPEAKS to His CREATION not any particular 'hybrid' part! :screwloose Unless Abel & Cain were not included in saved or rejected Obedoence?? Gen. 4:7

And you must be one of the repeated 'in' John 10:16? ;) But why MUST they leave those church folds if Christ was in them?? Or Rev. 18:4's ones today.. or be lost??

--Elijah
 
Elijah674 said:
Well we can dis/agree,huh? But not with God. :crying God Words SPEAKS to His CREATION not any particular 'hybrid' part! :screwloose Unless Abel & Cain were not included in saved or rejected Obedoence?? Gen. 4:7

And you must be one of the repeated 'in' John 10:16? ;) But why MUST they leave those church folds if Christ was in them?? Or Rev. 18:4's ones today.. or be lost??

--Elijah

God chooses those who choose Him, and refuses those who refuse Him.
 
glorydaz said:
Elijah674 said:
Well we can dis/agree,huh? But not with God. :crying God Words SPEAKS to His CREATION not any particular 'hybrid' part! :screwloose Unless Abel & Cain were not included in saved or rejected Obedoence?? Gen. 4:7

And you must be one of the repeated 'in' John 10:16? ;) But why MUST they leave those church folds if Christ was in them?? Or Rev. 18:4's ones today.. or be lost??

--Elijah

God chooses those who choose Him, and refuses those who refuse Him.

I agree. And They knew in eternity the results, but we are now only making those decision's that They
for/knew. That we do by Obedient faith! ;) Phil. 4:13

--Elijah
 
Elijah674 said:
glorydaz said:
Elijah674 said:
Well we can dis/agree,huh? But not with God. :crying God Words SPEAKS to His CREATION not any particular 'hybrid' part! :screwloose Unless Abel & Cain were not included in saved or rejected Obedoence?? Gen. 4:7

And you must be one of the repeated 'in' John 10:16? ;) But why MUST they leave those church folds if Christ was in them?? Or Rev. 18:4's ones today.. or be lost??

--Elijah

God chooses those who choose Him, and refuses those who refuse Him.

I agree. And They knew in eternity the results, but we are now only making those decision's that They
for/knew. That we do by Obedient faith! ;) Phil. 4:13

--Elijah

And the Word and the Holy Spirit were given us so we would know, too.
Cool, huh? Once we're sealed with the HS, we can be assured of our salvation.
We can rest in Jesus and allow Him to work through us...He brought peace to our spirit...not as the world gives, else we would be walking by sight not by faith.
 
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