The King In Jerusalem!

[Elvispelvis]

Isa 9;6
For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.

This is the beginning of life for Yeshua, to say He was alive before this makes a mockery of His birth.

And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

These are the titles and more of the King of the earth, some hard to be understood.

7 Of the increase of his government and peace
there will be no end.

He was born to bring peace on earth and goodwill toward men.

He will reign on David's throne
and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.

The fact that Yeshua will rule from Jerusalem with the twelve apostles does not make sense to christians
because when they die are in heaven. They are in the rupture caught up in the air forever.

The zeal of the LORD Almighty
will accomplish it.
LORD is always YHWH in Hebrew so it is another case of the Father helping His son where YHWH is making
it happen is very clear when the bible says YHWH will accomplish it.

 

[Strangelove]

And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

These are the titles and more of the King of the earth, some hard to be understood.

Yet another thread trying to tell Christians that Christ is NOT God. Your really stepping up your Noahide efforts arn't you Pelvis?

But you've kinda tripped up at the first hurdle there havn't you? For us Christians its not hard to be understood at all! Jesus is described as GOD!

LOLZ!

Heres some more proof for ya:

Christ Deity as God is seen in scripture when we compare scripture with scripture, as eccles states in 12:

7Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

The Spirit of man [at death] returns unto God [elohim] who gave it ! Gen 1:1

Now compare that with stephens words at his death acts 7:

59And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.

60And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

Notice, that He specifically calls upon God and says, Lord Jesus receive my Spirit, this points to Jesus as being God, Elohim of ecc 12:7
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Jesus is God but part of the triune and sometimes it is hard to wrap our thoughts around the concept as it seems so complex .

Suffice to say when we go back to the Book of Genesis the three were present in creation .... God , Word ( Christ) Holy Spirit .

THe diety of Jesus Christ, or His God nature, is well established in the NT. Some of the facts are :

1--He is called God by the Apostle John ( Verse one.)
2--- He is called God by the Apostle Thomas--- John 20;26
3--He is called God by God the Father--- Heb. 1: 8
4--He claimed to be God in that He was with the Fater before creation John 17:5
5--- He claimed to be God in that He was before Abraham---John 8:51--59
6--He received worship, and only God is to be woeshipped -- Matt. 14:33 Angels refused worhip--Rev.22:,8,9 Man refused worship--- Act10:25,26
7--He forgives sin --- Mark 2:5---11
8 He is creator and maker of all things--- Col . 1:16
9--He is sustainer of all things-- Heb.1:3 -- Only God can control the universe.
10--- He claimoed to have " all power in heaven and in earth" ---Matt.28:18 Only God has all power.
11--He walked upon the blue waters of Galilee. The winds and the waves obeyed His command. He healed the sick and raised the dead. He gave sight to the blind and hearing to the deaf. He cast out demons and made the lame to walk. He turned water into wine, and fed five thousand with the lunch of a lad.

Getting back to topic , the Bible tells us that Jesus is the Alpha and Omega , the beginning and the End ( Rev 22:13) This means from the very beginning , Jesus was there . There was never a time when Jesus did not exist.

Before Jesus was born in Bethlehem , He existed as the Second Person of the Trinity (John 17: 5 ; 17:24 ) THese passages tell us that there was a relationship of love., fellowship and shared glory that the Father and the Son sahred in eternity past. THe name " Jesus' was not known as a name for the Second Person of the Tinity until the angel Gabriel announced it to Mary ( Luke 1:31) . But the eternal Son existed before He revealed Himself as " Jesus"

Before Bethlehem , Jesus was the creator of all things ( Colossians 1: 16-17 .... John 1:1 -3 ) .... " He was before all things . As he is the Creator of all things , so he is the Eternal , and no part of what was created . All being but God has been created . What ever has not been created is God . But Jesus is the Creator of all things ; therefore he is God ; for he cannot be a part of his own work ( Clarke)

In the OT , Jesus appeared as God made visable or " THe angel of the Lord " . There are many instances in the OT where individuals are shown to have a face to face encounter with the LORD ( note LORD is always in upper case ) ( Genesis 16:7- 13 ; Genesis 18, Genesis 32 :24-32 ; Joshua 5:13-15 ; Judges 6: 11 -24 ; Daniel 3)

In each situation , the Person is given different titles , but in all cases the person is plainly referred to as the LORD Hinself , but appearing in a human form.

Knowing that Jesus ' goings forth are from of old , from everlasting shows us some important things.

It shows us that the glory of Jesus , that He is far more than a man .
It shows us the love of Jesus , that He would leave the glory of heaven for us
It shows us the nature of Jesus , that He would add humanity to His deity .
It shows us the sympathy of Jesus , that He remains fully man and fully God .

Are you ready to do a Noahide Q&A thread Elvis?

 

[johnny botwright]

The King of Jerusalem, a title given to the King of Spain , by the Vatican, and their new medetrain allaince, 10 countries, who recently visited spanish peace keeping troops in the middle east, with instructions not to intervene if isreal is attacked?
many feel the pope, black pope jusuits, rothchilds, illuminati , want complete control of jerusalem, many believe many leaders in Israel, have been placed there in power and postion by these forces. ?
the pope wants Jersulem back, those standing in the way, to be removed. ?

who have no real regard for the Jewish people,and their saftey and well being, it is said , some zoinist collabrated with Hitlor, as with every race, secret societys, there are those who have accepted satans offer and openly serve lucifer, the anti christ some to believe will rule or have an embassy in Israel. so a very different agenda is a foot ?

johnny