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Acts 1;6
When they therefore were come together,they asked of him,saying,Lord,wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?



When do you believe the Lord will take the kingdom away from the beast which calls itself Israel and give it to Israel?
 
Upon the death of the Two Witnesses:
Ezekiel 9 (New International Version)

Idolaters Killed
1 Then I heard him call out in a loud voice, "Bring the guards of the city here, each with a weapon in his hand." 2 And I saw six men coming from the direction of the upper gate, which faces north, each with a deadly weapon in his hand. With them was a man clothed in linen who had a writing kit at his side. They came in and stood beside the bronze altar.
3 Now the glory of the God of Israel went up from above the cherubim, where it had been, and moved to the threshold of the temple. Then the LORD called to the man clothed in linen who had the writing kit at his side 4 and said to him, "Go throughout the city of Jerusalem and put a mark on the foreheads of those who grieve and lament over all the detestable things that are done in it."

5 As I listened, he said to the others, "Follow him through the city and kill, without showing pity or compassion. 6 Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children, but do not touch anyone who has the mark. Begin at my sanctuary." So they began with the elders who were in front of the temple.

7 Then he said to them, "Defile the temple and fill the courts with the slain. Go!" So they went out and began killing throughout the city. 8 While they were killing and I was left alone, I fell facedown, crying out, "Ah, Sovereign LORD! Are you going to destroy the entire remnant of Israel in this outpouring of your wrath on Jerusalem?"

9 He answered me, "The sin of the house of Israel and Judah is exceedingly great; the land is full of bloodshed and the city is full of injustice. They say, 'The LORD has forsaken the land; the LORD does not see.' 10 So I will not look on them with pity or spare them, but I will bring down on their own heads what they have done."

11 Then the man in linen with the writing kit at his side brought back word, saying, "I have done as you commanded."
 
Shilohsfoal said:
Acts 1;6
When they therefore were come together,they asked of him,saying,Lord,wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?



When do you believe the Lord will take the kingdom away from the beast which calls itself Israel and give it to Israel?
  • Act 1:7 - And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Meaning, of course, that if it is truly still in our future then YOU CAN'T KNOW! :halo
 
Our Lord Jesus often revealed more when asked a question like that. In the Acts 1 case, He revealed more for those who pay attention.

Acts 1:6-8
6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of Him, saying, Lord, wilt Thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
7 And He said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in His own power.
8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto Me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.(KJV)

The real... answer? The Holy Spirit would show them all things (1 Cor.2). At this point the outpouring of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost was not yet. This is why Apostle Paul later would tell the Thessalonians he had no need to teach them about the "times and the seasons", meaning they already knew.
 
veteran said:
Our Lord Jesus often revealed more when asked a question like that. In the Acts 1 case, He revealed more for those who pay attention.

Acts 1:6-8
6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of Him, saying, Lord, wilt Thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
7 And He said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in His own power.
8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto Me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.(KJV)

The real... answer? The Holy Spirit would show them all things (1 Cor.2). At this point the outpouring of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost was not yet. This is why Apostle Paul later would tell the Thessalonians he had no need to teach them about the "times and the seasons", meaning they already knew.
1 Corinthians Chapter 2 does not apply in this case.

  • 1Cr 2:12 - Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

    Act 1:7 - And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

The "But" of verse 8 implies 'it's not your place to worry about that because I have other things for you to do.' :approve
 
veteran said:
This is why Apostle Paul later would tell the Thessalonians he had no need to teach them about the "times and the seasons", meaning they already knew.
Actually...No!
In 1Th 5 Paul is saying that the Thessalonians know enough to always be prepared for the Lord's Coming.
If your eschatological view was correct along with your interpretation of 1Th 5, then why would they bother as the Second Coming would be at least two thousand years off. :biglaugh
 
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