The ressurection

[Shilohsfoal]

2 timothy 2;15-18
Study to show thyself approved unto God,a workman that needeth not to be ashamed,rightly deviding the word of truth.
But shun profane and vane bablings;for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
And thier word will eat as doth a canker;of whom is Hymeneus and Philetus;
Who cocerning the truth have erred,saying the ressurection is past already;and overthrow the faith of some.

Every now and then I see someome attempting to convice others that the ressurection is past already.
Be careful you dont err from the truth as they do.

 

[farouk]

2 timothy 2;15-18
Study to show thyself approved unto God,a workman that needeth not to be ashamed,rightly deviding the word of truth.
But shun profane and vane bablings;for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
And thier word will eat as doth a canker;of whom is Hymeneus and Philetus;
Who cocerning the truth have erred,saying the ressurection is past already;and overthrow the faith of some.

Every now and then I see someome attempting to convice others that the ressurection is past already.
Be careful you dont err from the truth as they do.

S:

There's a good passage that you quoted!

 

[Hitch]

Contra-Hymenæan Preterism and Orthodox Preterism

From the header;

Quoting Dee Dee Warren: There is a relatively recent wind of false doctrine that goes by the name of "full preterism" or attempts to co-opt the word "preterism" which teaches that ALL eschatological prophecy has come to pass, including the resurrection, the Great White Throne Judgment, the destruction of satan, and the Second Coming of Christ. This is outside the historic Christian faith, and in my view, is the making of another "Christian" cult (in the theological sense, not the brainwashing or sociological sense).

http://www.preteristsite.com/

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It is a dangerous heresy. The site linked is a fine resource.

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[Alabaster]

2 timothy 2;15-18
Study to show thyself approved unto God,a workman that needeth not to be ashamed,rightly deviding the word of truth.
But shun profane and vane bablings;for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
And thier word will eat as doth a canker;of whom is Hymeneus and Philetus;
Who cocerning the truth have erred,saying the ressurection is past already;and overthrow the faith of some.

Every now and then I see someome attempting to convice others that the ressurection is past already.
Be careful you dont err from the truth as they do.

 

[reba]

oh 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
Joh 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Contra-Hymenæan Preterism and Orthodox Preterism

From the header;

Quoting Dee Dee Warren: There is a relatively recent wind of false doctrine that goes by the name of "full preterism" or attempts to co-opt the word "preterism" which teaches that ALL eschatological prophecy has come to pass, including the resurrection, the Great White Throne Judgment, the destruction of satan, and the Second Coming of Christ. This is outside the historic Christian faith, and in my view, is the making of another "Christian" cult (in the theological sense, not the brainwashing or sociological sense).

http://www.preteristsite.com/

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It is a dangerous heresy. The site linked is a fine resource.

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Seems to be a dangerous heresy on this board concerning the ressurection.
And so it is that men can not endure sound doctrin.

Rev 20;4
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.


Rev 20;5
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.


What happens when people can not endure sound doctrin such as this?

 

[Hitch]

Seems to be a dangerous heresy on this board concerning the ressurection.
And so it is that men can not endure sound doctrin.

Rev 20;4
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.


Rev 20;5
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.



What happens when people can not endure sound doctrin such as this?

LOL. Is it true that Shilosfoal has yet to pass from death unto life ?
Sorry I finally get it. You have never sinned so you could never have been dead in sin right ?

 

[Shilohsfoal]

LOL. Is it true that Shilosfoal has yet to pass from death unto life ?
Sorry I finally get it. You have never sinned so you could never have been dead in sin right ?

Ive not died.
Rev 20;5
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.


Rev 20 is not about recieving the holy spirit.Its about those who are killed by the beast and then come back to life.Its called the ressurrection.Is not called a rejuvination or any other thing you would like to change it to.

Its the resurection.
Now for someone such as yourself who doesnt understand,you might attempt to change the prophecies that are written in revelation to fit your own twisted veiw.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Rev 13;15
And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.


Now if your going to claim those in rev 20 are not killed and not resurected like chapter 20 says then are you going to change Rev 13;15 so that no one will be killed for not worshiping the beast?
Also ,when will the new book of revelation with no ressurection of the just be printed?
Does anyone know?

 

[Hitch]

Ive not died.
Rev 20;5
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.


Rev 20 is not about recieving the holy spirit.Its about those who are killed by the beast and then come back to life.Its called the ressurrection.Is not called a rejuvination or any other thing you would like to change it to.

Its the resurection.
Now for someone such as yourself who doesnt understand,you might attempt to change the prophecies that are written in revelation to fit your own twisted veiw.

(KJV)
Eph 2:1
1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

 

[Hitch]

Rev 13;15
And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.


Now if your going to claim those in rev 20 are not killed and not resurected like chapter 20 says then are you going to change Rev 13;15 so that no one will be killed for not worshiping the beast?
Also ,when will the new book of revelation with no ressurection of the just be printed?
Does anyone know?

Doesnt matter John took care of that ;

Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.


I wonder if the guy who said that knew about your program ?? Ahh maybe he wasnt as annointed as you think thats it??

I know I know ,, the ''jus''t and the' 'good' are,,,, different, right? LOL

Keep trying Shiloh

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Doesnt mater John took care of that ;

Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.


I wonder if the guy who said that knew about your program ?? Ahh maybe he wasnt as annointed as you think thats it??

I know I know ,, the ''jus''t and the' 'good' are,,,, different, right? LOL

Keep trying Shiloh

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No Hitch the resurection hasnt not taken place.And those who will be killed for not worshipng the beast have not been resurected yet.They havnt even died yet.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Doesnt mater John took care of that ;

Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.


I wonder if the guy who said that knew about your program ?? Ahh maybe he wasnt as annointed as you think thats it??

I know I know ,, the ''jus''t and the' 'good' are,,,, different, right? LOL

Keep trying Shiloh

You know you quoted a verse that speaks of two resurections.
#1 the resurection of life
#2 the resurection of damnation.

I know your going to try to say they are the same but they are not.
And we already know your trying to say the first resurrectionis past already but its not.

 

[Alabaster]

You know you quoted a verse that speaks of two resurections.
#1 the resurection of life
#2 the resurection of damnation.

I know your going to try to say they are the same but they are not.
And we already know your trying to say the first resurrectionis past already but its not.

Exactly!

 

[Hitch]

You know you quoted a verse that speaks of two resurections.
#1 the resurection of life
#2 the resurection of damnation.

I know your going to try to say they are the same but they are not.
And we already know your trying to say the first resurrectionis past already but its not.

The 'all' in v28 is defined as both the good and the evil .

Perhaps you can explain why none of the Creeds call for multiplied resurrections?

 

[Hitch]

Exactly!

The 'all' in v28 is defined as both the good and the evil . And you have already admitted that both good and evil will be raised at the same time.

 

[Vic C.]

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No Hitch the resurection hasnt not taken place.And those who will be killed for not worshipng the beast have not been resurected yet.They havnt even died yet.

Comment edited out and just as I mentioned in another topic, these personal attacks must stop. If anyone cannot respond in a mature, Christ-like manner, I'd rather you not post at all.


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[Shilohsfoal]

The 'all' in v28 is defined as both the good and the evil .

Perhaps you can explain why none of the Creeds call for multiplied resurrections?

As Paul instructed ,Im shunning profane and vain bablings of Hitch who is trying to say the resurection is past already.If someone has a problem with Pauls instruction .please speak up against Paul.Otherwise let me do what Paul said.

I have the revelation of Jesus Christ which God gave to him to show his servants.
You have already tryed to change it to fit your twisted veiw.
Im not going for it.Your ownly leading to more ungodlyness.
I'll leave you and this board to its folly.

 

[Hitch]

I suggest the ignore feature, it can be quite a peace keeper.

I wont address your outrageous claims.


Shiloh posts;
I have the revelation of Jesus Christ which God gave to him to show his servants

Ok Im curious about this one . It could mean you have the Apocalpse, so does everybody else so what? I think you're claiming some special personal understanding/revelation here, is that correct?

 

[Alabaster]

The 'all' in v28 is defined as both the good and the evil . And you have already admitted that both good and evil will be raised at the same time.

No, all will not be raised at the same time.

The dead in Christ is raised first to receive their inheritance in Christ, the Bridegroom.

Then after 1000 years the wicked dead are raised to stand in Judgment.

Just because there is a summary saying all will be raised doesn't mean it is together! Everyone has their time. The righteous have their time first, and the wicked will remain in their graves until it is time for judgment at the Great White Throne.