[_ Old Earth _] Timeline - Evolution vs. Creationism

[ThinkerMan]

I posted this first to another topic areas but thought it belonged here.

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BTW -- there is no evidence for evolution. We have never observed one kind of animal change into another.

I wanted to address this oft-quoted point by anit-evolutionists.

You have to understand how short a time "we" have been around. Let's address the two theories.

1. Evolution. If you take the 4.5 billion year age and squeeze it into a 365 day year, then you get the following.

Midnight on January 1: Earth Forms
May 28: Life Emerges
December 11: Dinosaurs Emerge
December 25: Dinosaurs Die
December 31st at 8:11 PM: Homo Habilus emerges
December 31st at about 11:50 PM: Humans Emerge
December 31st at 11:59 and 46 seconds: Time of Jesus
1 Second before New Year: Darwin writes the "Origins of Man"

That means we have had roughly one observable second out of one year. Hardly a sweeping amount of time to make observations that show a large number of speciations.

Despite this small window into the life of the earth, there HAVE been new species found in recent years. Not on the order of the larger mammals that would be obvious, but various plants and bacteria speciation has been found.

But in short, we haven't been around looking for it long enough to for your "evidence" that you would consider incontrovertable. It tooks nearly 4 hours on this calender for "homo habilus"(or a cousin) to evolve into "homo sapiens. "

2. Using the Creationist theory, the last 4000 years, and squeezing it into one year.

Midnight on the January 1st: The Flood (~2000 BCE)
March: Genesis written (~1000 BCE)
Early July: The time of Jesus
November 6-November 24: Renaissance
December 19th: "The Origin of Man"

Recorded history starts in the world starts at least in January/February. Why are there no records (except for domesticated animals) of your widespread microevolution? Microevolution would have had to been EXTREMELY rapid for only a few days then decreased to a near halt (on this calender) because ancient descriptions of species are the same as those today (except, again, for domesticated animals, where natural selection has been removed).

You have had roughly the entire year to observe it and write it down. Evolutionists have only had a second!

 

[50]

I posted this first to another topic areas but thought it belonged here.

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BTW -- there is no evidence for evolution. We have never observed one kind of animal change into another.

Evolution is real but not like you guys are trying to say a snake does not turn in to a bird

it takes a long time but it does happin

just look at deer for one thing

deer in lower parts of the US are skinny and have long legs to let heat out
and deer higher up are more stocky in build to keep heat in

and theres alot more things i can say such as bacteria always uses evolution to overcome and outlast aother kind of bacteria

life always finds away to live where ever it has to

what your saying is that all animals were made all at the same time and have never changed

that the thing is is that some human dont want to realy have to admit that they are animals just like any other living thing on this earth

we had to fight to get this high and then we think we are just to good to be animals any more

well thats the cold hard truth of the human race that fact that we are just like apes and other animals

i am told that Evolution was made up because Evolutionists dont want to believe in god '

i think its that fact that others do not want to admit that we realy did come from animals

but that just what i think

 

[50]

I posted this first to another topic areas but thought it belonged here.

Quote:
BTW -- there is no evidence for evolution. We have never observed one kind of animal change into another.

I wanted to address this oft-quoted point by anit-evolutionists.

You have to understand how short a time "we" have been around. Let's address the two theories.

1. Evolution. If you take the 4.5 billion year age and squeeze it into a 365 day year, then you get the following.

Midnight on January 1: Earth Forms
May 28: Life Emerges
December 11: Dinosaurs Emerge
December 25: Dinosaurs Die
December 31st at 8:11 PM: Homo Habilus emerges
December 31st at about 11:50 PM: Humans Emerge
December 31st at 11:59 and 46 seconds: Time of Jesus
1 Second before New Year: Darwin writes the "Origins of Man"

That means we have had roughly one observable second out of one year. Hardly a sweeping amount of time to make observations that show a large number of speciations.

Despite this small window into the life of the earth, there HAVE been new species found in recent years. Not on the order of the larger mammals that would be obvious, but various plants and bacteria speciation has been found.

But in short, we haven't been around looking for it long enough to for your "evidence" that you would consider incontrovertable. It tooks nearly 4 hours on this calender for "homo habilus"(or a cousin) to evolve into "homo sapiens. "

2. Using the Creationist theory, the last 4000 years, and squeezing it into one year.

Midnight on the January 1st: The Flood (~2000 BCE)
March: Genesis written (~1000 BCE)
Early July: The time of Jesus
November 6-November 24: Renaissance
December 19th: "The Origin of Man"

Recorded history starts in the world starts at least in January/February. Why are there no records (except for domesticated animals) of your widespread microevolution? Microevolution would have had to been EXTREMELY rapid for only a few days then decreased to a near halt (on this calender) because ancient descriptions of species are the same as those today (except, again, for domesticated animals, where natural selection has been removed).

You have had roughly the entire year to observe it and write it down. Evolutionists have only had a second!

to look at it as one year is just a smart way of makeing it look like your in the right

it does not make any since

and how do you know how long the world was been around

 

[50]

now plz dont take those post the wroung i am a nice guy and i believe in free speach for all

i just didnt want that to go over wroung

because i have been banned on other forums for saying what i think but i dont cuss or bash ppl

 

[ThinkerMan]

to look at it as one year is just a smart way of makeing it look like your in the right

it does not make any since

and how do you know how long the world was been around

Condensing the two theories (6,000 years and 4.5 billion years) is an effective way of comparing the relative differences between the two. To answer your question about how I know how old the world has been around, I am simply using the number the vast majority of scientific commmunity supports.

It is an illustrative tool to show that 6,000 is but a blink in time, even relative to our own lifetimes and experiences.

And I agree, it does make my argument more effective....thank you for noticing.

 

[BenjaminTC]

that the thing is is that some human dont want to realy have to admit that they are animals just like any other living thing on this earth

we had to fight to get this high and then we think we are just to good to be animals any more

well thats the cold hard truth of the human race that fact that we are just like apes and other animals

I find it mildly amusing when Christians are offended by the idea that we have common ancestors with chimps and apes (we share a genetic similarity with chimps of about 99%, thats more than chimps have with gorillas) but when attending Ash Wednesday service they are reminded "Remember that you are dust, and to dust you shall return," they seem to have no problem. Does this make sense?

 

[50]

well said i am realy sorry for my messed up words when i posted that post i have been up for 61 hours with no sleep

but no use to post the real truth here man because they are all closeminded

but yes your very right

 

[Guest]

evidence of no evolution

:o No offense to anyone,but none of you make sense.
This does,however: http://evolution-facts.org/default.htm
http://www.douknow.net/ev_UnmaskingTheF ... lution.htm
http://www.evolutionfantasy.org
http://www.reachingforchrist.org/falsed ... /pagan.php

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/chr ... ence/75915

 

[cubedbee]

Thank you for digging up this month old thread and once again posting random links that don't address the topic.

 

[Guest]

Thank you for digging up this month old thread and once again posting random links that don't address the topic.

:B-fly: Did I do that? I didn't realize I did. Are you sure?

 

[Guest]

once again posting random links that don't address the topic.

8-) These are not random links at all,and if you read through the
material you'll see how everything coordinates and addresses the
topic at hand so well. Very well indeed.