what does the word prophet mean? what is the real true definition?

[thesaintman]

can you say me it =?

 

[Corn Pop]

A Prophet is someone who speaks truth through the Holy Spirit.

A false prophet is someone who thinks God is talking to them, but its only there deluded mind.

 

[Blake]

Yep. As a general rule it's probably best to stay away from people who announce themselves as prophets, because the role requires a certain level of societal alienation that you wouldn't typically see in people who love titles... prophet's don't need or even want to be known. There is a movement in some of the charismatic churches where self-proclaimed apostles and prophets are a dime a dozen and it has never sat well with me. Pride goes before a fall. We shouldn't fall in love with titles.

Prophets speak when prompted by the Holy Spirit. They can administer personal prophecy to an individual or corporate prophecy to a church, city, nation, or even the world. To prophesy is a gift of the Holy Spirit. One shouldn't think too highly of themselves to prophesy, we are merely little shop rags in the great mechanic's hands, and if we recall in scripture the story of Balaam, God can speak through any ol' ass. Paul said in his epistle to the Corinthians that to have the gift of prophecy and understand all wisdom but have no love is meaningless, and it is a far better gift to feed the poor and disadvantaged.

 

[Chopper]

Hello again thesaintman. My good friend Blake said it best. I'm being very careful right now to tell you how prophesy happens in my life, because my boast is in the Lord Who uses me for His glory. Usually, I'm busy doing some sort of ministry, studying the Scriptures, or having a good conversation with a Brother or Sister and the Lord will speak to my heart/mind with a message about someone. Perhaps someone He wants healed, warned, instructed, encouraged and so on.

Usually I will wait a while to see if the message grows more intense. I sometimes ask the Lord how He wants it done and how many others does He want involved. I try not to do any acts of healing alone because the gift of healing can pass thru someone the Holy Spirit chooses, that way the glory stays away from me.

Every message and act that has come to me from the Lord MUST COME TRUE! EVERY TIME!! If a prophet is truly from the Lord what he says or does must work, or he is a fake.

 

[IncredibleTransformation]

Hello again thesaintman. My good friend Blake said it best. I'm being very careful right now to tell you how prophesy happens in my life, because my boast is in the Lord Who uses me for His glory. Usually, I'm busy doing some sort of ministry, studying the Scriptures, or having a good conversation with a Brother or Sister and the Lord will speak to my heart/mind with a message about someone. Perhaps someone He wants healed, warned, instructed, encouraged and so on.

Usually I will wait a while to see if the message grows more intense. I sometimes ask the Lord how He wants it done and how many others does He want involved. I try not to do any acts of healing alone because the gift of healing can pass thru someone the Holy Spirit chooses, that way the glory stays away from me.

Every message and act that has come to me from the Lord MUST COME TRUE! EVERY TIME!! If a prophet is truly from the Lord what he says or does must work, or he is a fake.

Just being new here and this is my very first post, I would say that you have hit the nail on the head when it comes to the office of modern prophet. Thanks for your definition.

 

[Chopper]

Just being new here and this is my very first post, I would say that you have hit the nail on the head when it comes to the office of modern prophet. Thanks for your definition.

Why thank you my new friend IncredibleTransformation. I really like the name you have chosen. Wow!! Is our Almighty God amazing? I still can hardly believe that He would want the likes of me to be His child....I placed my faith and trust in Jesus Christ in November 1974, and today I love Him more and more each day. I would never want to undo that day so long ago.

I'm so glad that you find this life in Jesus "incredible".

 

[Brother Mike]

Hello again thesaintman. My good friend Blake said it best. I'm being very careful right now to tell you how prophesy happens in my life, because my boast is in the Lord Who uses me for His glory. Usually, I'm busy doing some sort of ministry, studying the Scriptures, or having a good conversation with a Brother or Sister and the Lord will speak to my heart/mind with a message about someone. Perhaps someone He wants healed, warned, instructed, encouraged and so on.

Usually I will wait a while to see if the message grows more intense. I sometimes ask the Lord how He wants it done and how many others does He want involved. I try not to do any acts of healing alone because the gift of healing can pass thru someone the Holy Spirit chooses, that way the glory stays away from me.

Every message and act that has come to me from the Lord MUST COME TRUE! EVERY TIME!! If a prophet is truly from the Lord what he says or does must work, or he is a fake.

I actually was used in that office while pastoring. You can feel the switch in anointing, and unlike a Pastor's office which has a constant tangible anointing to run the business side of thoings, and Prophet often is anointed to teach, and the prophet part of the persons calling comes on them.

I have already described the Prophets office in other threads, what it is, what it is not.

Does it have to be true every single time?
Let's get something straight. Every single believe better be hearing God, and getting direction for their life. This is a whole lot what a Prophet does, but for others in a minister setting, expecting that Prophet anointing to come when they step up to minister.

(Does it have to be true every single time?)
This is a very good question. A Prophets main job is to edify others and hear God on their behalf. I might say this will come to pass in your life, if you do this. If it's the Lord, and they follow the direction, it happens.

A whole lot of Thus Saith the Lord, does not come to pass. Even if the Lord said it.
Num_14:34 After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise.

Wherefore the LORD God of Israel saith, I said indeed that thy house, and the house of thy father, should walk before me for ever: but now the LORD saith, Be it far from me; for them that honour me I will honour, and they that despise me shall be lightly esteemed.
(1Sa 2:30)

We have many scripture examples of the Lord saying something, but it not happening. There is a big difference in the OT and NT More sure Word, than a personal Word prophets give from the Lord to people. All scripture is the more sure Word of Prophecy, as it's something God said, and had it written. Since there is no prophet today adding to the eternal Word of God, then anything they say from the Lord depends on it being followed. If followed, then results occur, unless it involves someone else, who disobeyed, which is a whole other teaching.

I have a whole lot of folks asking me for a Word from the Lord. I hear God, and hear him a lot. That is not a prophet ministry though, that is what every mature believer should be experiencing. If you read in the book of Acts, it will say "It seemed right to them" they all had the same witness. You should be able to get with any mature believer and ask what they are picking up from the Holy Spirit and compare notes.

enough of this.

Mike.

 

[eddif]

Galatians 3:13
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

I don't think we tote a sack of stones for sinners and prophets today. I do not promote false prophecy, but Jesus did not stone Peter when he messed up with his bad sayings ( he sure did let Peter know he messed up though).

eddif

 

[eddif]

I Corinthians 14:29
Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.
31 For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.
32 For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.

II Peter 3:15
And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, asthey do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

IMHO Paul's epistles were pretty much an ongoing prophecy. Peter has weighed his words and supported him.

Word of knowledge and word of wisdom (and other spiritual gifts) can all be prophetic (listen to some of our administrators at times).

This web site pretty much weighs the prophetic word. I sure hear weighing going on at times. Am I without sin? No.

eddif

 

[Chopper]

I actually was used in that office while pastoring. You can feel the switch in anointing, and unlike a Pastor's office which has a constant tangible anointing to run the business side of thoings, and Prophet often is anointed to teach, and the prophet part of the persons calling comes on them.

I have already described the Prophets office in other threads, what it is, what it is not.

Does it have to be true every single time?
Let's get something straight. Every single believe better be hearing God, and getting direction for their life. This is a whole lot what a Prophet does, but for others in a minister setting, expecting that Prophet anointing to come when they step up to minister.

(Does it have to be true every single time?)
This is a very good question. A Prophets main job is to edify others and hear God on their behalf. I might say this will come to pass in your life, if you do this. If it's the Lord, and they follow the direction, it happens.

A whole lot of Thus Saith the Lord, does not come to pass. Even if the Lord said it.
Num_14:34 After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise.

Wherefore the LORD God of Israel saith, I said indeed that thy house, and the house of thy father, should walk before me for ever: but now the LORD saith, Be it far from me; for them that honour me I will honour, and they that despise me shall be lightly esteemed.
(1Sa 2:30)

We have many scripture examples of the Lord saying something, but it not happening. There is a big difference in the OT and NT More sure Word, than a personal Word prophets give from the Lord to people. All scripture is the more sure Word of Prophecy, as it's something God said, and had it written. Since there is no prophet today adding to the eternal Word of God, then anything they say from the Lord depends on it being followed. If followed, then results occur, unless it involves someone else, who disobeyed, which is a whole other teaching.

I have a whole lot of folks asking me for a Word from the Lord. I hear God, and hear him a lot. That is not a prophet ministry though, that is what every mature believer should be experiencing. If you read in the book of Acts, it will say "It seemed right to them" they all had the same witness. You should be able to get with any mature believer and ask what they are picking up from the Holy Spirit and compare notes.

enough of this.

Mike.

Hi Brother Mike. You have presented a good evaluation of NT prophesy. I am concerned that this statement of yours, "A whole lot of Thus Saith the Lord, does not come to pass. Even if the Lord said it.
Num_14:34 After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise."
My concern is that someone who is not really grounded in the Scriptures might draw a wrong conclusion. I suggest the following. The Scripture, Num. 14:34b "Ye shall know my breach of promise" At first glance, it looks like the Lord said something would happen, and it didn't happen....Lets look a little closer at that. I believe that the Lord is saying, because you violated the Covenant that was between you and Me, and you broke your end of that Covenant, now My end has been voided by your disobedience.

Our God never breaks a promise. God never fails to live up to what He covenants with His people. The only thing that can withhold what God has said is the disobedience of the one to whom God directs covenant with.

 

[Sparkey]

We've been asked "What does the word, Prophet mean" and "What is the true definition?"

We might notice that there is a difference between the gift of Prophecy that Paul speaks of in 1 Cor 14 where we hear of Paul's desire and want, and how it was that ALL speak in tongues and even more, ALL prophesy. Because (as Paul explained) Prophecy (speaking out the Word of God) edifies. It, the word of God through the mouth of man, edifies and builds us up. That's because God allows us to participate in His ministry as we join into His Son. It's about the love that flows between GOD and us.

But we might also notice that this is not the same as saying, "I want you to demonstrate the Spirit of Elijah through you; BE THOU MINE PROPHET, for evermore." Not the same at all. Gifts are given without repentance. The Gift of Prophecy that Paul spoke of is not the same as the Old Testament Office of the Prophet. Not by a long shot. I've been used in the GoP (not the Grand O'l Party, either - we're not talkin politics even if it sometimes seems like every body argues over such things) and you may have too, even unawares, but what we are talking about is that Promise. The Promise of the Father that Jesus spoke about when He told others to tarry in Jerusalem, for, he said, "Ye shall receive power..." We are talking about the Promise that God gave to His Son, Jesus. The one that Jesus gives to us after He died and rose and ascended. Prophecy is one of the nine (9) gifts of the Holy Spirit that Paul also taught about. The gifts of the Holy Spirit are divided among us according to the Spirit whose job it is to rightly and jointly fit us together. That fitting needs OIL and the oil is what those 5 virgins were wise about. Their lamps did NOT go out. The had the Holy Spirit Oil of gladness and they did not let their little lamps go out, because it was all done by HIM and not of them. Virgin Oil is what we're talking here.

But that's different than the Office of Prophet. And that fine distinction is easy to get confused about.

Prophets speak when prompted by the Holy Spirit.

TRUE!

when it comes to the office of modern prophet. Thanks for your definition.

You're sweet, and so is our friend, Chopper. I know that he has been used in the GoP but I don't know (nor have I heard him claim) that he is used in the "modern day Office of Prophet". That's a rare thing. A very rare thing. I hope to see that Office restored soon. But note that this is just me talking here in The Lounge, and this is indeed casual conversation, my favorite kind.

I Corinthians 14:29
Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.
31 For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.
32 For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.

BANG! There's a Word of Truth as it echoes out of the heart it was written in. And it's the Word of God. We know this. Was it prophecy? I dunno. But if I asked eddif if he felt it bubbling up from his belly, like a river of water, so that he could barely contain it? That's what happens sometimes to me, when I'm anointed and given a word to speak, but that just is there because I read and love the Word of Truth and energetically chase spirituals [gifts] as commanded. Seems there are many of us gather here. Good. The dry bones need to hear the Word of God as we are prompted. We can speak secrets from the hearts of others too, so when they hear it, they exclaim, "It's like my very heart was taken out and he was dissecting me." I've had a friend at work complain to HR with those very words. But no, I'm not a prophet. Just a responder to the love of Jesus who likes it when the Holy Spirit gives me stuff for others. Just like you. No difference there. Flesh is flesh and we get to join to His Spirit. The Gift of the Holy Spirit is the Baptism. That's the Promise of the Father. The sacrifice of Jesus was needed to purify so that the Holy Spirit who is Holy, Holy, Holy and utterly apart from sin might be poured out on us (in measure). And each gift is given according to how the Holy Spirit chooses. We may ask. It is He who gives.

IMHO Paul's epistles were pretty much an ongoing prophecy.

The better Master to study (as Paul would readily agree) is that man, Jesus, upon whom the Holy Spirit was poured out infinitely and without measure. He operated the GoP all the time. He operated all nine (9) of the Gifts very frequently. But the disciples couldn't yet hear it because he had not yet departed. He had not yet paid the price prophesied about in the Book of Ruth, because Jesus knew he was a Spiritual Boaz and that our Father had given him something for reason. The spirit of the Prophets is subject to the prophet. But now we are talkign about the Office and not just speaking forth the true Word of God as given and undiluted as those rivers of living water bubble up out of you.
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You see, it was my best friend (IRL) that once said that he liked the thought about how the Word of God seemed to bubble up from our belly as a way to describe the GoP (The Gift of Prophecy). And he said that back when we were 17 years old. And I'm 62 now, so that means the revelation was given to him about 45 days (oops I meant years) ago. We were sitting at a Denny's Restaurant and having a cup o' java (coffee) then. And He stood up and demonstrated by speaking out boldly to all who would listen, the pure word of truth. And what did I do? I tucked my head a little (I wasn't embarrassed but instead I was kinda shy and thought, "Oh, my! Whatever will these strangers think?) but then, I thought about what he said. That word was held onto, it just stuck with me all these years, and just a moment ago, it was given me to say it.

And if he's right (his name is Conrad, by the way) but if he's right? Then it's very possible that you too have been used in Prophecy. But that doesn't mean you are a Prophet per se. There are a variety of warnings against false prophets in the New Testament (Matthew 7:15-19, 24:11,24; Mark 13:22; Luke 6:26; Acts 13:6; 2 Peter 2:1; 1 John 4:1; Revelation 16:13, 19:20, 20:10 and others). But there is no warning about believers speaking out the truth in kindness. That's prophecy too. The word of God can come through you. It's a gift that we are supposed to chase, to seek after. Paul didn't say it in English but he said in context that we are supposed to seek after, to chase, spirituals. That's the start of his lecture on the 9 gifts of the Holy Spirit. Memorize the nine (9) is what I'd say.

• 3 Gifts of Power == Faith, Miracles, Healings (plural)
• 3 Gifts of Utterance == Tongues, Interpretation of Tongues, Prophecy
• 3 Gifts of Revelation == Discernment of Spirits, Gift of Wisdom, and of Knowledge

So if you want a definition for the GoP? Go to the Teacher, the Comforter, the one who will teach and bring you into all truth. That's His Job. You have been given to Him and it is He, not me that will help. He is called The Helper for a reason. He is well suited for this particular job, but not like flesh for His is the title Ruach HaKodesh, and He is the Breath of God in your heart and the quiet whisper in your mind.

So I say, Listen to what the Spirit Holy says to you, then Repeat it to others. Know that prophecy, all prophecy, even as it comes through you must line up with our More Sure WORD of Prophecy, the Bible. There are many other things to learn, but no worries. He's is perfect for the task of guiding you in all things!

Oh, by the way. It should be said that we are not to follow prophets. We are to follow only as they follow Jesus. I have it on good authority that even Prophecy shall fail. But that's due to an abuse on our parts and God will perform His work, His strange work, suddenly and much to their (false prophets) chagrin.

 

[Brother Mike]

Hi Brother Mike. You have presented a good evaluation of NT prophesy. I am concerned that this statement of yours, "A whole lot of Thus Saith the Lord, does not come to pass. Even if the Lord said it.
Num_14:34 After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise."
My concern is that someone who is not really grounded in the Scriptures might draw a wrong conclusion. I suggest the following. The Scripture, Num. 14:34b "Ye shall know my breach of promise" At first glance, it looks like the Lord said something would happen, and it didn't happen....Lets look a little closer at that. I believe that the Lord is saying, because you violated the Covenant that was between you and Me, and you broke your end of that Covenant, now My end has been voided by your disobedience.

Our God never breaks a promise. God never fails to live up to what He covenants with His people. The only thing that can withhold what God has said is the disobedience of the one to whom God directs covenant with.

You said the same thing I said Chopper. God said the promise land is your, the land of milk and Honey. Guess what?

Psa_78:41 Yea, they turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One of Israel.

So the Lord did promise them something, and it did not come to pass. In this case, the Lord even told them He is breaking his promise.

Same with Eli, God promised him and His family to be the Family of priest forever. That would have continued until today through that line. Guess what?
God said far be it from me, for those that honor me, I shall honor.

A whole lot of what God said would happen, did not happen, and despite the younger in scripture might be confused about this, us older folks need to recognize this. Just because the Lord said, don't make it so.

When I hear something from God for someone, it almost always comes with a direction. I don't hear the Lord tell them, "Thus saith the Lord, tell them I'll make them rich."

The Lord would always speak like this, "Go to that school as I put in your heart, for you shall have great wealth."
This is normally how the Lord spoke to people in the OT, and how He speaks today. The condition is to wash in that river, go show yourself to the priest, go to that river, collect things to put oil in.

The Lord saying something will happen is normally the direction, before the come to pass part. As prophets today, all they can do is get direction for people, hear the Lord, and it should bare witness with that person.

Advanced I know, and it can get into a big thing about election, and this, or that, but we have tons of scriptures to show us how it all works.

OT TIME:
False prophets where around saying good things were coming to pass, without the obedience. Those things did not come to pass, they were just saying good things, and the Lord never said any of it.

False prophets today will say something, but without direction on getting there, then you know it's not the Lord.
Saying that America is going to be judged, thus saith the Lord. Well, the Lord never says such things, without the plan to avoid the judgement. Word's of knowledge and Wisdom work the same way.

And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe and to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that the LORD thy God will set thee on high above all nations of the earth:
(Deu 28:1)

Do you see how these prophecies work? Whats the condition here?

Peter said we have a more sure word of prophecy though. There are a few scriptures not dependent on us, Revelation full of them, and Peter. The earth will be melted, despite what we do.

Mike.

 

[Sparkey]

What's that you say? You want a short and to the point definition?
Oh, okay. Why didn't you say so? You did? Okay, yes. I see that too.

Trying to switch from verbose to taciturn is not easy. I'll try. No guarantees.

How about:
The gift of prophecy is to be found among the gifts of the Spirit mentioned in 1 Corinthians 12:10 and Romans 12:6. The Greek word used in both of those passages may rightly be translated into English as “prophesying” or "prophecy" and it properly means to "speak forth".

We are talking therefore about speaking. I think we are talking about speaking forth the Word of Truth in a very special way, specifically, speaking forth 'as given' [implied: by God directly into our spirit by His Spirit, or otherwise (by vision maybe?)] and for His purpose and not ours.

This is not to be confused with the Office of a Prophet. -AND- it's a good think that I said, no guarantees, right? I like disclaimers given in advance. :yes

 

[Sparkey]

Notice that Jesus often operated under the Office of OT Prophet. One of the things they did was pronounce (speak forth) both blessings and cursings under what might be called the Formulas of the Prophets.

IF it were to be a blessing? The recipient would hear the prefatory, "Blessed be," or "Blessings unto those who..."
AND IF it were to be a curse? The recipient would hear the prefatory, "Woe is...," a.k.a. the Prophet's woe formula.

I'm of a mind to think that the Sermon on the mount was Prophetic and was a series of prophetic blessings following the Blessed Be formula of the OT Prophet. But that is not to say that Jesus only operated the Prophetic Gift that way or manner. He is a NT Prophet too, our first. He leads as well as fulfills. He said that John was the greatest of the Old Covenant, meaning that He considered himself poured into a new wineskin and that's true. His body is the original new wineskin that we are becoming more and more a part of and rightly likened to. But it's the pouring out that we are interesting in, yet we can't pour out what is given with out first it being poured in. So there is much to consider here and there and in other places too. We can't give what we don't got. But back,for a bite, to the OT prophet formula.

Notice that, for instance, Isaiah uttered the famous "Woe" formula against himself. Woe is me! Or in familiar Yiddish, "Oy Vey ist mir" which could be or might be more familiar sounding but it still isn't ancient Hebrew so it isn't what was actually said. Woe unto me, for I am a man of unclean lips, from a people of unclean lips. But even there, I think much of what was actually said has been lost. Languages carry the flavor well. And it's what we got. So work with it, right? What else can we do?

Greek is much more precise than Hebrew because it is a modern language and it has many more tenses involved but then comes the fragment problem because we are working from copies of copies and not from full scrolls or other writings from modern printing machines like the Gutenberg Press which began printing the bible sometime around 1436 or so.

There is a need for prophecy as there is also a need for revelation and admonishment and exhortation and every good gift that proceedeth down from the Father of Lights. We need to speek it fortheth boldly and with confidence and not of ourselves which is idolatry. And yes, we are indeed instructed to compare to the More Sure Word of Prophecy but go to that text and see what Peter was actually talking about. It was a more sure word that was given directly from Heaven, while they stood on the Mountain and God gave the witness to His Only Begotten Son, but don't take my word for it, ask Mr. Google to help you search for the phrase, "More Sure Word of Prophecy," to find exactly what Peter meant. You will see (or hear, or read about) Peter also saying, in verse 20, that we should, "know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation…." So there is much to learn about and we Need the Holy Spirit to teach us because it's clear that they were not sitting around reading the Gutenberg Bible and they were not reading the KJV. Even that "More Sure Word" was an utterance. So speak it forth is what I like to say.

Prove it true. Speak it forth.

 

[Sparkey]

There I am in my kitchen and I'm thinking about the difficulty that I have communicating. And my mind is drawn to a recent (today) visit to the doctor and how the Physician's Assistant (not quite a doctor yet) checked my wound. She pokes and we're talking about I mentioned that I probably was a little early in putting some Vitamin E (liquid) on it and she says, "Yeah, I can see where it dissolved the derma-bond a little," and I asked, "Was that bad? And she hears me ask, like I was a little boy (I'm not, I'm more than twice her age), "Am I bad," or "was I bad for doing that?" so she said, again and again, "Everything looks great," and she began reassuring me, "That's okay. No, it's not bad."

Then she talked about how I'm an active guy and I shut my mouth because I was just getting off their restrictions for lifting and driving and I had just then fulfilled the 10 day count for no driving so in other words in the last week I have been more inactive than I could normally stand.

But then the idea comes to me and I go to Mr. Google and search stuff that she spoke to me. And here I am. Thinking about Prophecy. I had some idear that derma-bond was like super glue (it is similar) but it isn't supposed to stay wet. Showers are okay, keeping wet (like if I were inactive? And sweating where skin touches skin? Especially in the Summer? I'd put gauze on it to keep it dry from sitting all day... but enough about me, that's enough to give the analogy.

• I was following my best understanding of my given instructions (the word of the doctor to me).
• When I tried to articulate it, I had added stuff of my own invention (derma-bond is like super-glue)
• I have a more sure word (the word given from the final authority, the doctor) as given to me through her assistant the PA.
• It's very easy for that Physician's Assistant to speak to the doctor (who is even more busy) about multiple patients at a time, including me so it's easy for her to act like a go between (like the Prophets of OLD).

Now we can look at the OT Prophets. They were given to assist Moses. Just like the Judges were too. They were assigned by God as go-between, or bridges (to assist others crossing to Him, in a follow me and cross over here(!) way, but only as I follow Him, our true leader) if you'd rather; Moses needed them because he was not Jesus. He was just Moses.

So we have differing paths that lead to the same place and are similar in some, but not every way. But even way back then, when the law was being delivered as written on stone tablets? God initially sent the invitation to all of the Children of the one whose name was changed from The Grabber to God-Fighter or Prevailed with God. All the children of Israel were invited to come up to the Mountain (Sinai, the Trembling - seen in the book of Hebrews, chapter verse Heb 12:22 (maybe)) and that was the trembling mountain but we are not being invited there. That OT Prophet was changed too. We are called to a different mountain.

So it's needful to know that the NT Office of the Prophet is differnt just like the NT Office of Sent One (apostle) is also different. But neither are done away, but that doesn't mean that somebody who stands and declares themselves to be a modern day Apostle is really sent from God either. Just that we need to know that some things change, and they are changing back to what God intended at first. That's what I think is meant, "I have declared the end from the beginning," and He even explains that too, "so that you may know that I am God."

 

[IncredibleTransformation]

Yep. As a general rule it's probably best to stay away from people who announce themselves as prophets, because the role requires a certain level of societal alienation that you wouldn't typically see in people who love titles... prophet's don't need or even want to be known. There is a movement in some of the charismatic churches where self-proclaimed apostles and prophets are a dime a dozen and it has never sat well with me. Pride goes before a fall. We shouldn't fall in love with titles.

Prophets speak when prompted by the Holy Spirit. They can administer personal prophecy to an individual or corporate prophecy to a church, city, nation, or even the world. To prophesy is a gift of the Holy Spirit. One shouldn't think too highly of themselves to prophesy, we are merely little shop rags in the great mechanic's hands, and if we recall in scripture the story of Balaam, God can speak through any ol' ass. Paul said in his epistle to the Corinthians that to have the gift of prophecy and understand all wisdom but have no love is meaningless, and it is a far better gift to feed the poor and disadvantaged.

Yes I see all of this garbage. I'm the Most Blessed Highest Prophet of God _____. The names are getting longer and more audacious. When you are a prophet you don't need to announce yourself. Your gift will announce itself in due time.