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What Surname?

zadaqom

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Need advices,counsels and helps.

I was born when my mother and father are not married. Since from the beginning, even from when I started entering school, I use my father's surname. I really do not have a birth certificate until now, they just made it my surname without law's consent. I think,at that time when I was born, it's unlawful to use it because they are not married(I'm not sure if it is still even until now). I should use my mother's surname. But then, I think, my paternal family insisted to using their surname at that time just I was recently born. And I also discovered that my existing baptismal certificate that has their surname used, was tampered. My mother and my father are not anymore in relation now, but I'm still using my father's surname. I'm cared for by the side of my grandfather( mother's side). He is the one who cared for me and provided me for food,school,etc. I spent and was cared almost all the time of my life by/with him. He is the one who contributed great for me more than my father( I'm not living with my father,but sometimes I went to his house away from us to visit).

Now, my birth certificate is required of me. I do not know yet what's the judgment of law about my situation of what surname will I legally use. Thinking logically,in my opinion, it is right to use my mother's surname because my parents are not married and I was cared by my grandfather and grandmother which are from my mother's side. For now, I will leave the decision of what is proper in our law.

But what if in case I were to choose my own surname?

In this name I have ...known or is known by God....and unintentionally I have come across at this passage of the Bible---"17 Nevertheless, each one should retain the place in life that the Lord assigned to him and to which God has called him. This is the rule I lay down in all the churches. 18 Was a man already circumcised when he was called? He should not become uncircumcised. Was a man uncircumcised when he was called? He should not be circumcised. 19 Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing. Keeping God’s commands is what counts. 20 Each one should remain in the situation which he was in when God called him. 21 Were you a slave when you were called? Don’t let it trouble you—although if you can gain your freedom, do so. 22 For he who was a slave when he was called by the Lord is the Lord’s freedman; similarly, he who was a free man when he was called is Christ’s slave. 23 You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of men. 24 Brothers, each man, as responsible to God, should remain in the situation God called him to."-- I Corinthians 7:17-24.

I am hesitant of the meaning of this passage in connection to my problem. I am not sure if the surname is included in this what the Apostle Paul called 'situation' or 'state'. What do you think should be my choice if I were to choose my own surname? I know if that would be the case, the decision is left on me. But for now, I want to ask your opinions supported with reasons with or without resources from the Bible or from human law itself. By the way, just in case you will ask, I am living in the Philippines. And I am just a teenager,15 years old, not very intelligent(so I would ask not to make your responses not too hard to be understood). Hoping for responses.

May God bless you
 
It shouldn't make any difference.

Before I changed my name (although name changing is easy here in the uk)
UK Deed Poll Service (official website) How to change your legal name by Deed Poll (£40 sign a document job done.) it's different in the USA I know... They are all funny about it for some reason.

I had loads of middle names like 4.
I omitted them on documents and didn't know about most of them until I finally read what my dad put on my birth certificate. I didn't use them it's not a problem as long as you use the same name consistently and aren't using two names to juggle identities. I used to have different things on different documents but they all bear similarity to the original name and you testify that you are the same person.

you should use whatever name you like the most honestly.
 
Hi Pax,

The Scriptures you are looking at really don't have anything to do with a name change. If you want to change your surname to more accurately reflect who you are...go ahead.

Do whatever is legally required of you...it's not a spiritual matter.
 
Hi Pax,

The Scriptures you are looking at really don't have anything to do with a name change. If you want to change your surname to more accurately reflect who you are...go ahead.

Do whatever is legally required of you...it's not a spiritual matter.

I know that passage doesn't mention a surname. It might be because people in the times of Paul or the Apostles doesn't use surnames or they did not know what surnames are. I think, they only use to identify themselves the name of the tribe or place where they came from, or their father's name(e.g., Ben son of James, or Alpheus of Philippines).

I was more focused on the passage,"Brothers, each man, as responsible to God, should remain in the situation God called him to" or "Each one should remain in the situation which he was in when God called him." In another Bible version, this 'situation' Paul referring to is 'state' (NAB). And I was thinking of my surname as one of the 'situation' or 'state' Paul referring to.

But,well, now, I still depend on what the proper law's decision. But I was just thinking another way," What if I were to choose my own surname?":)

Thank You
 
What do you think should be my choice if I were to choose my own surname?
You do not have a choice, you have to use the name on your birth certificate. If you want to change it, then you need to go to court. Although they say that can be fairly easy to do.
 
You do not have a choice, you have to use the name on your birth certificate. If you want to change it, then you need to go to court. Although they say that can be fairly easy to do.
I had occasion to seek legal advice about the "state" of my children. It's rather personal but the woman to whom I was married and who became the mother of my two sons was actually married at the time that she and I got married. She was legally still married to her "ex-husband" and had not completed the divorce.

So I went to the lawyer and asked if my sons (in legal terms, the "issue" of the marriage) were considered legitimate if our "marriage" were annuled -- made to have not ocurred. The answer from the attorney is that they were not bastards, that paternity is established by the father's acknowledgement. We were told that the kids were legitimate and could (should) continue to bear my name.

In point of fact, it was also legal for her to continue to have our name. So my last name is rightfully hers and theirs. The way I understand it is that we each have the right to our own names. Except for the purpose of fraud we can be called by the name of our choice. We can spell our names any way we want. Most places are pretty amenable to this, but because of the threat of identity theft and fraud, many financial companies require documentation of your name or name change.

If you want to change your name (it seems to me that you don't and that the name on your birth certificate suites you) you will need to get a court order for your name change. Each state is different about what they require, so be sure to check your own state's laws on the topic.

Most states simply require you to file different forms in court. State government websites have forms online that you can print and use. The questions on the forms are very straightforward, and may include your old name, new name, social security number, reason for your name change, and a promise that you are not changing you name to commit fraud or to escape debt or criminal liability.
 
You do not have a choice, you have to use the name on your birth certificate.

it seems to me that you don't and that the name on your birth certificate suites you

Sorry if I have not written clearly what I really mean. Actually, I do not have a birth certificate until now. It may be questionable, but it's a long story. My birth certificate this time is just needed. As we have asked recently to the authority what to do with it, they say we should avail a "Late Registration"(this is the recommendation about my condition here in our place). That's why I ask opinions from here that if I were to choose my surname, what should I use? But just as I have said I would just leave the judgment to the law itself, not unless the law would say that it should depend on me(This is where I should make my decision:chin).
 
It's good that you're getting help in it. The problem (as far as I know) isn't really about the choice of what name. If your father doesn't deny that he's your dad the key to changing your name comes in remembering all the different forms and departments that need to be notified.

Of course, your bank but also the Social Security office (in the US) and the new drivers license -- we fill out W-2 forms so our employer can report earnings and we can pay tax <--- that needs to be changed, also your passport, the companies you do business with (utilities, phone etc.), Post Office and probably more that I can't think of right now (notifying schools? unsure but it wouldn't hurt).

As evidenced by someone like the rock star “Meatloaf,” what you choose to call yourself is really up to you. The courts generally approve a name as long as you pay the name change fee and fill out the forms correctly.

Read more: How to Legally Change a Surname | eHow.com --> ehow.com/how_6705980_legally-change-surname.html#ixzz1KGHKqxhE
 
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