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What's In A Name?

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Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who is victorious, I will give some of the hidden manna. I will also give that person a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to the one who receives it.

-Revelations 2:17 (NIV)

In the bible there are a few instances where a name means so much. A prophet naming his children in line with a prophesy. God changing a person name. Abram to Abraham, Jacob to Isreal, Simon to Peter, and Saul to Paul. And a hopeful future where we are named a name God gives us indivually.

Hopefully this makes you smile like it does to me.
 
So with that note. What's in your name?

For me my online name was made when I tried out this site on the foyer section. I wasn't sure about the site so my name reflected that. Hadn't joined yet but hopefully I would like the site and join soon. Then I just kept the name when
I joined.

My real name was from a character in a tv show. Someone my mom liked. Apparently, the meaning of my name is a type of plant, or a type of land, or people living in said type of land.
 
Jason, Jason of the Argonauts. greek it means healer.

That's awesome. Mind if I borrow that name for a story of mine? I'm having a hard time with creating one of the main characters, and healer fits the archetype of a good smarten too well. That's the type of character I was trying to build him after.
 
Peter = Petros = small stone or pebble. Some folks will tell you it is rock but Petra is rock and Jesus was Petra The Rock

peter
 
Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who is victorious, I will give some of the hidden manna. I will also give that person a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to the one who receives it.

-Revelations 2:17 (NIV)

In the bible there are a few instances where a name means so much. A prophet naming his children in line with a prophesy. God changing a person name. Abram to Abraham, Jacob to Isreal, Simon to Peter, and Saul to Paul. And a hopeful future where we are named a name God gives us indivually.

Hopefully this makes you smile like it does to me.

Name changes in the Bible are an amazing study in themselves.

And this primarily speaks to our promised change, noted here by Paul:

Philippians 3:21
Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

With these name changes it very much speaks to the above promise of the Gospel, and this is part of what is reflected in "name changes." The Gospel is "preached" in this matter, speaking of our hope and promise in Christ. We are first, a natural body, then afterwards, a Spiritual Body. This is the basic meaning of name changes in their allegorical conveyances.

So, a little name dancing allegory fun below.

Saul. O.T. first king of Israel. Stood head and shoulders above his fellow Israelites. (Picture, a big natural flesh man.) Who did God end up blessing? The SECOND king. David (beloved.)! Do you see the picture of the Gospel there? I certainly DO.

Move to Saul of the N.T. soon to be Paul. Saul/Paul was even of the TRIBE of Benjamin, the same tribe as SAUL. The meaning of Paul? small. The opposite picture of Saul, the first king. You think God in Christ wasn't speaking in this matter?

Jesus termed James and John as "sons of thunder" in another example of surnames from Mark 3:17.

On the other side of the ledgers, in name studies in the O.T. in observing the links to the Hebrew meanings of the names of adversaries to Israel there are totally fascinating meanings to the names of these various enemies. And this is also by Divine Intention. And all of these, names, places, everything, will show how our "adversaries" work in this world. It's completely fascinating.

IN the N.T. name, Herod, meaning, hero in outward appearance. Significant? Of course. That is the showing of a "flesh" leader. An "external" world leader. A picture of a natural flesh man who dominates by what? Survival of the fittest, the LAW of the FLESH.

Pontius Pilate? Meaning? Pontius: "of the sea." Pilate: "with spear in hand." Significant? Very. The whore of Babylon sits in "waters." When we read of "sea or waters" it is an associated term. What is the meaning of the waters where this whore sits? People. Waters in her case are PEOPLE, not waters. She allegorically SITS in the seas of HUMANITY. IN cases in the O.T. we can see that the great dragon, Satan, resides where? IN the sea. Isaiah 27:1. Meaning = "in the people." Acts 26:18 shows the SAME THING.

When we are 'fishers of men" we fish them from this SEA where SATAN sits. We are even shown in the O.T. that the "fishes of the sea" STICK to the scales of the great dragon (Ezekiel 29:3-5). This is MAN in captivity to SATAN in the "seas" of confusion. All conveyed allegorically, in the O.T. and brought to LIGHT in the N.T.

In addressing the churches in Rev. Jesus had hard things to say to every believer as we are advised to listen to ALL that the Spirit says to ALL the churches, not just the "good stuff." I've written out several long dissections of some of these allegorical study matters. Unfortunately these are often met with resistance.

Even in the term the "churches in Asia," Asia is, essentially "in or of the east." The direction of east in correlative meanings from the O.T. is the direction of EVIL. The message then is to the churches, which were then and are presently "in evil." If we read about all the dire things to said churches the works of Satan are addressed to these churches, and their members. So, yeah, evil. Not all is as it appears to be with surface glances. Every jot and tittle is critical information. This is also why I'm picky about "loose paraphrase" translations. Because internal information falls by the wayside when the "jots and tittles" are overly tampered with. The Word is meant to be studied through allegory, parable and similitude "rules." There are vast amounts of internal critical data embedded in names, places, nations, and even in studies of O.T. laws and rituals. For example, in 1 Cor. 9:9-10, Paul takes an obscure law out of the O.T. law of Moses and derives an entirely DIFFERENT meaning from that law than "how" it is actually written in the O.T. And further then claims his dissection is really "as it is written." I asked myself "how did he manage to DO THAT?!" I rolled up my scribe sleeves and figured it out. An "ox" is a puller of a plow. The "plow" divides the earth...a picture of the natural man. It is in "dividing" the natural man (of the earth) from his captor that the "seed" of the Gospel is planted, in HOPE. This is the "allegorical picture" of the OX and the PLOW. It is a PREACHER of the Gospel dividing a 'natural man" from his "enemy" in the earth and seeding the GOSPEL in that ground. Get it? It took me a good long while to see "how" Paul got there, but I eventually got it.

The studies of allegories, parables and similitude will "unfold" HOW Paul got there on these subjects. It is PAUL who opened up this "allegorical territory" for us to follow. It is deeply deeply fascinating.

In Jesus declarations for example that He is against the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, the meaning of that name is "destruction of the people." What is Jesus against? Destruction of the people. We don't have to try to unearth any history to get to the bottom line, as the "spiritual message" is right there in the name, to be had.

In our own names, places, etc. we will find God's Living Word, as Parables, even with us. We just didn't see it through the EYES of Spiritual Sights, which are allegorically based.

So, DIVE IN. The waters are deep enough for everyone to swim in. Ezekiel 45:7

This is one of the best/fast linked sites I've found. Have used it for a long time.
http://www.linkedword.com/gen/1/-1/0
 
Peter = Petros = small stone or pebble. Some folks will tell you it is rock but Petra is rock and Jesus was Petra The Rock

peter

Good to know. I had thought Peter was rock also. It's a good name either way.
 
what is the name of the Lord? is it more important to know that name or the nature of the person that acts with that name?
 
To the best of my knowledge there is not any Roro's in history so mine is kind of silly some might say
 
Name changes in the Bible are an amazing study in themselves.

And this primarily speaks to our promised change, noted here by Paul:

Philippians 3:21
Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

With these name changes it very much speaks to the above promise of the Gospel, and this is part of what is reflected in "name changes." The Gospel is "preached" in this matter, speaking of our hope and promise in Christ. We are first, a natural body, then afterwards, a Spiritual Body. This is the basic meaning of name changes in their allegorical conveyances.

So, a little name dancing allegory fun below.

Saul. O.T. first king of Israel. Stood head and shoulders above his fellow Israelites. (Picture, a big natural flesh man.) Who did God end up blessing? The SECOND king. David (beloved.)! Do you see the picture of the Gospel there? I certainly DO.

Move to Saul of the N.T. soon to be Paul. Saul/Paul was even of the TRIBE of Benjamin, the same tribe as SAUL. The meaning of Paul? small. The opposite picture of Saul, the first king. You think God in Christ wasn't speaking in this matter?

Jesus termed James and John as "sons of thunder" in another example of surnames from Mark 3:17.

On the other side of the ledgers, in name studies in the O.T. in observing the links to the Hebrew meanings of the names of adversaries to Israel there are totally fascinating meanings to the names of these various enemies. And this is also by Divine Intention. And all of these, names, places, everything, will show how our "adversaries" work in this world. It's completely fascinating.

IN the N.T. name, Herod, meaning, hero in outward appearance. Significant? Of course. That is the showing of a "flesh" leader. An "external" world leader. A picture of a natural flesh man who dominates by what? Survival of the fittest, the LAW of the FLESH.

Pontius Pilate? Meaning? Pontius: "of the sea." Pilate: "with spear in hand." Significant? Very. The whore of Babylon sits in "waters." When we read of "sea or waters" it is an associated term. What is the meaning of the waters where this whore sits? People. Waters in her case are PEOPLE, not waters. She allegorically SITS in the seas of HUMANITY. IN cases in the O.T. we can see that the great dragon, Satan, resides where? IN the sea. Isaiah 27:1. Meaning = "in the people." Acts 26:18 shows the SAME THING.

When we are 'fishers of men" we fish them from this SEA where SATAN sits. We are even shown in the O.T. that the "fishes of the sea" STICK to the scales of the great dragon (Ezekiel 29:3-5). This is MAN in captivity to SATAN in the "seas" of confusion. All conveyed allegorically, in the O.T. and brought to LIGHT in the N.T.

In addressing the churches in Rev. Jesus had hard things to say to every believer as we are advised to listen to ALL that the Spirit says to ALL the churches, not just the "good stuff." I've written out several long dissections of some of these allegorical study matters. Unfortunately these are often met with resistance.

Even in the term the "churches in Asia," Asia is, essentially "in or of the east." The direction of east in correlative meanings from the O.T. is the direction of EVIL. The message then is to the churches, which were then and are presently "in evil." If we read about all the dire things to said churches the works of Satan are addressed to these churches, and their members. So, yeah, evil. Not all is as it appears to be with surface glances. Every jot and tittle is critical information. This is also why I'm picky about "loose paraphrase" translations. Because internal information falls by the wayside when the "jots and tittles" are overly tampered with. The Word is meant to be studied through allegory, parable and similitude "rules." There are vast amounts of internal critical data embedded in names, places, nations, and even in studies of O.T. laws and rituals. For example, in 1 Cor. 9:9-10, Paul takes an obscure law out of the O.T. law of Moses and derives an entirely DIFFERENT meaning from that law than "how" it is actually written in the O.T. And further then claims his dissection is really "as it is written." I asked myself "how did he manage to DO THAT?!" I rolled up my scribe sleeves and figured it out. An "ox" is a puller of a plow. The "plow" divides the earth...a picture of the natural man. It is in "dividing" the natural man (of the earth) from his captor that the "seed" of the Gospel is planted, in HOPE. This is the "allegorical picture" of the OX and the PLOW. It is a PREACHER of the Gospel dividing a 'natural man" from his "enemy" in the earth and seeding the GOSPEL in that ground. Get it? It took me a good long while to see "how" Paul got there, but I eventually got it.

The studies of allegories, parables and similitude will "unfold" HOW Paul got there on these subjects. It is PAUL who opened up this "allegorical territory" for us to follow. It is deeply deeply fascinating.

In Jesus declarations for example that He is against the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, the meaning of that name is "destruction of the people." What is Jesus against? Destruction of the people. We don't have to try to unearth any history to get to the bottom line, as the "spiritual message" is right there in the name, to be had.

In our own names, places, etc. we will find God's Living Word, as Parables, even with us. We just didn't see it through the EYES of Spiritual Sights, which are allegorically based.

So, DIVE IN. The waters are deep enough for everyone to swim in. Ezekiel 45:7

This is one of the best/fast linked sites I've found. Have used it for a long time.
http://www.linkedword.com/gen/1/-1/0

Very interesting Smaller. There's always something cool about trying to deepen our understanding of the bible by looking at the details in a more in depth way.

Another kind of interesting thing is the order of names. In the lineage of Adam to Noah here are the names and their meanings as best I could look up.

Adam = Man
Seth = Appointed
Enosh = Mortal
Kenan = Sorrow;
Mahalalel = The Blessed God
Jared = Shall come down
Enoch = Teaching
Methuselah = His death shall bring
Lamech = The Despairing
Noah = Rest, or comfort.

A friend looked at this and thought to add some contextual words to try and make sense of it and came up with this:

Man (is) appointed mortal sorrow; (but) the Blessed God shall come down teaching (that) His death shall bring (the) despairing rest.

Those words added (is, but, that, the) may only help in the context of an English language. But on the other hand they also might take away meaning or add meaning when there wasn't meant to be any. The risk of learning more from in depth study can hold the risk of misunderstanding it or coming to the wrong conclusions. But no matter how you look at it it is very intresting to dive in to it all, and the more a person does with reliable sources the less likely a person will be wrong on their conclusions. The bible and the Holy Spirit being 2 reliable sources. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, just wanted to give my own and give a possible reason why you see resistance from conclusions with what you've found from your studies. The resistance isn't without merrit, but it might not be specifically because of what the ideas are about. Just good caution in general.
 
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