It is clear from OT prophesy that the Anointed One (Christ) would be born in 1st century Palestine, so all the statements amount the christ being born that some of you quoted above bear that out, BUT the issue is not was Jesus the christ, because he clearly was and is, but rather WHEN was Jesus anointed?
ps. We know his anointing was preordained, but WHEN did it actually occur?
My contention is that Jesus was anointed officially by The Father at his baptism.
That is right ToT.
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Like that "ToT"
There is proof of that in Daniel in the prophecy of the 70 weeks of years.
Jesus ministry became active at his baptism upon his anointing as the Christ and that was exactly at the end of the 69th week. His ministry lasted exactly the 3 and 1/2 years to the half way point of that 70 week just as it was showed that it would. Then at the end of that 70th week (another 3 and 1/2 years later) the New Covenant came into full force with the anointing of the holy spirit in the upper room there at Pentecost, also when the prophecy said it would occur.
Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Sorry, I was wrong about the phrase "even until the consummation". That is referencing the destruction of Jerusalem. But "he shall confirm the [old] covenant with many for one week" the half way point of which he caused sacrifice and offering to cease by his death, shows that at the end of that 70th week, a full seven years after his anointing, the New Covenant would come into force.
The point is the Messiah is not shown to appear in the prophecy until the date Jesus was baptized and the spirit anointed him which was at the end of the 69 weeks (7 weeks plus three score and two, or 7 + 60 + 2)
Another thing to remember as that at the time Jesus presented himself for baptism, Luke 3:15 "... the people were in expectation, and all men mused in their hearts of John, whether he were the Christ, or not"
They all knew the prophecy of Daniel had told he was due to arrive. Using the BCE dating system the 70 weeks of years is counted from the year 455 BCE.
70 times 7 = 490 So it was 483 years (the 69 weeks of years) after Nehemiah received permission from the Persian king
Artaxerxes (in the month Nisan - March-April) but did not give the command to rebuild until the month of Ab (July-August) to rebuild the walls of Jerusalem, that the Messiah arrived. 455 BCE minus 483 years ends up at 29 CE because using that method we have to add an extra year for the change-over from BCE to CE. It would have been in the Autumn of that year.