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When Did Jesus Become The Christ?

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We have become so comfortable saying "Jesus Christ" as if "Christ" was somehow Jesus' last name as opposed to a word that shows to Jesus of Nazareth is God's Anointed One.
Knowing that christ means anointed, my question to the board is when did Jesus get anointed and as a bonus, what was he anointed to be?
 
We have become so comfortable saying "Jesus Christ" as if "Christ" was somehow Jesus' last name as opposed to a word that shows to Jesus of Nazareth is God's Anointed One.
Knowing that christ means anointed, my question to the board is when did Jesus get anointed and as a bonus, what was he anointed to be?


MARK 8
29 And he saith unto them, But WHOM SAY YE that I am? And Peter answereth and saith unto him, Thou art the Christ.
LUKE 9
20 He said unto them, But WHOM SAY YE that I am? Peter answering said, The Christ of God.
 
Jesus has always been the Christ since before time began.
 
I believe that Jesus has always been the Christ.


According to the Scriptures, He was certainly the Christ at His birth:

Matthew 2:4 "Gathering together all the chief priests and scribes of the people, he inquired of them where the Christ was to be born."

Luke 2:11 "for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord."
 
It is clear from OT prophesy that the Anointed One (Christ) would be born in 1st century Palestine, so all the statements amount the christ being born that some of you quoted above bear that out, BUT the issue is not was Jesus the christ, because he clearly was and is, but rather WHEN was Jesus anointed?

ps. We know his anointing was preordained, but WHEN did it actually occur?

My contention is that Jesus was anointed officially by The Father at his baptism.
 
I disagree because the angel stated that the Savior who is (present tense active) the Christ was born...

So, when the angel proclaimed Jesus' birth, He was at that time the Christ...and going by your logic "Knowing that christ means anointed, my question to the board is when did Jesus get anointed"...He was anointed at His birth by the very least.

But, I believe that He always was/is/ever will be the Christ. I'll have to find some Scriptures to back that up though.
 
In some ways Messiah is an office rather than a state of being. An office may exist for a period of time and then whatever was required is accomplished . Dave was always Dave a man with godly heart. But he was king only a short time. Jesus is always Lord but the office of Messiah is historical, the work had to take place in time and on earth. It had a begining and an end. Just as there will come a time when we no longer require an Intercessor.

So directly , Id say the anointing at Jordan fits, but it might go back to the Immaculate Conception. Im with you though as far as it needs to be historical.
 
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It is clear from OT prophesy that the Anointed One (Christ) would be born in 1st century Palestine, so all the statements amount the christ being born that some of you quoted above bear that out, BUT the issue is not was Jesus the christ, because he clearly was and is, but rather WHEN was Jesus anointed?

ps. We know his anointing was preordained, but WHEN did it actually occur?

My contention is that Jesus was anointed officially by The Father at his baptism.

That is right ToT. :lol Like that "ToT" :lol

There is proof of that in Daniel in the prophecy of the 70 weeks of years.

Jesus ministry became active at his baptism upon his anointing as the Christ and that was exactly at the end of the 69th week. His ministry lasted exactly the 3 and 1/2 years to the half way point of that 70 week just as it was showed that it would. Then at the end of that 70th week (another 3 and 1/2 years later) the New Covenant came into full force with the anointing of the holy spirit in the upper room there at Pentecost, also when the prophecy said it would occur.

Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Sorry, I was wrong about the phrase "even until the consummation". That is referencing the destruction of Jerusalem. But "he shall confirm the [old] covenant with many for one week" the half way point of which he caused sacrifice and offering to cease by his death, shows that at the end of that 70th week, a full seven years after his anointing, the New Covenant would come into force.

The point is the Messiah is not shown to appear in the prophecy until the date Jesus was baptized and the spirit anointed him which was at the end of the 69 weeks (7 weeks plus three score and two, or 7 + 60 + 2)

Another thing to remember as that at the time Jesus presented himself for baptism, Luke 3:15 "... the people were in expectation, and all men mused in their hearts of John, whether he were the Christ, or not"

They all knew the prophecy of Daniel had told he was due to arrive. Using the BCE dating system the 70 weeks of years is counted from the year 455 BCE.

70 times 7 = 490 So it was 483 years (the 69 weeks of years) after Nehemiah received permission from the Persian king Artaxerxes (in the month Nisan - March-April) but did not give the command to rebuild until the month of Ab (July-August) to rebuild the walls of Jerusalem, that the Messiah arrived. 455 BCE minus 483 years ends up at 29 CE because using that method we have to add an extra year for the change-over from BCE to CE. It would have been in the Autumn of that year.
 
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It is clear from OT prophesy that the Anointed One (Christ) would be born in 1st century Palestine, so all the statements amount the christ being born that some of you quoted above bear that out, BUT the issue is not was Jesus the christ, because he clearly was and is, but rather WHEN was Jesus anointed?

ps. We know his anointing was preordained, but WHEN did it actually occur?

My contention is that Jesus was anointed officially by The Father at his baptism.

I do agree that at Jesus' baptism He received the Holy Spirit's anointing and commissioning into His ministry.
 
When was He not the Anointed One when was He not the Messiah? Our salvation was before the foundation of the world. To me He always was always will be




Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one. consumed.


Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not



I bet i am over simplifying :chin
 
When was He not the Anointed One when was He not the Messiah? Our salvation was before the foundation of the world. To me He always was always will be
Amen reba. That's seeing from beginning to the end!
 
When was He not the Anointed One when was He not the Messiah? Our salvation was before the foundation of the world. To me He always was always will be




Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one. consumed.


Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not



I bet i am over simplifying :chin

Well yes, it can be correctly viewed that way. Even his death was credited back to the beginning for the world that men of faith could be saved.

I guess what it comes down to is that once God has purposed something that is as good as it already being done because it is a certain thing to be.
 
We have become so comfortable saying "Jesus Christ" as if "Christ" was somehow Jesus' last name as opposed to a word that shows to Jesus of Nazareth is God's Anointed One.
Knowing that christ means anointed, my question to the board is when did Jesus get anointed and as a bonus, what was he anointed to be?

I believe that Jesus is God in the flesh. (God decided to come to earth in the form of a human being, so he did so as Jesus Christ.) Therefore, Jesus was God from the moment he was born.
 
I believe that Jesus is God in the flesh. (God decided to come to earth in the form of a human being, so he did so as Jesus Christ.) Therefore, Jesus was God from the moment he was born.
Conceived... John knew who Jesus was while both were still in the womb.
 
I believe that Jesus is God in the flesh. (God decided to come to earth in the form of a human being, so he did so as Jesus Christ.) Therefore, Jesus was God from the moment he was born.

Jesus was God and with God even before He became the begotten.
 
We have become so comfortable saying "Jesus Christ" as if "Christ" was somehow Jesus' last name as opposed to a word that shows to Jesus of Nazareth is God's Anointed One.
Knowing that christ means anointed, my question to the board is when did Jesus get anointed and as a bonus, what was he anointed to be?
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was with God in the beginning." John 1:1. The Word is Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ "the same yesterday and today and forever" (Hebrews). Christ always was Jesus Christ. He didn't become Christ. He always was and always is Jesus Christ. Before He was incarnate, He was in the beginning as the Word (John 1:1). In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington :)
 
Interesting and thought provoking question....But I think that "anointed" needs to be defined a bit.

Christ (Gr.) and Messiah (Heb.) both mean "the anointed one" and speak to both a position as well as the individual who would fill the position.

In one sense, Jesus has always been "the anointed one" from time immemorial, and in another sense He became "the anointed one" in the womb as "the word became flesh and dwelt among us".

Just my 2 pennies...:p
 
We have established that we understand (at least most of us) that the term "christ" simply means anointed. A study of the ancient scriptures will show us that God as had other "christs" in the past like King Saul, Cyrus, and Israel. The question I now pose is a WHAT question. What was Jesus anointed/christed by GOD to do or be?
 
Jehovah God, Holy Spirit (Ghost) God, Christ God, are All Eternally IMMORTAL.
Their [[[PLAN]]] had Christ God to become the [Son of God] at the Birth of Christ, as we call Him. The PLAN was consumated at His Birth as the Son. See Psalms 2:7 for when this was Prophesied & Heb. 1:5 as seen in past/tense.
 
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