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Who is Gog?

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No Bible scholar knows exactly the identification of this Gog , the leader of Russia in this end of age prophecy. Most scholars attempt to identify him as a human leader that will lead Russia into an attack on Israel at the end of time. However the most serious objection is found in revelations 20:7-8, where we see Gog appearing again , leading another nation or nations into battle one last time again after Jesus Millennial reign. If the original Gog of Ezekiel 38 is a human , how can he be seen again after the Millennial reign leading nations again? Turnto the book of Daniel chapter 10 . In this chapter , the prophet Daniel begins praying to God for more understanding aboutthe future prophetic history of his beloved nation , Israel. We see that God gives an angel the answer to Daniel prayer the very first day Daniel prayed. Yet he was prevented from reaching Daniel for three whole weeks ! What could have happened to keep a Godly angel from reaching earth for three weeks. We get the answer in verse 13; But the Prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days but lo Michael , one of the cheif princes, came to help me and I remained was not needed anymore there with the kings of Persia. This passage tells us that this Godly angel was attacked by a demonic being that was more powerful than the angel and kept him from reaching Daniel for three whole weeks. Furthermore we see that the only way this angel could get victory over this demonic being was to call for help from Michael, the guardian angel responsible for the defence of Israel. BUT then , this angel says something even more shocking In verse 20 , he says that once he returns he will have to join an ongoing fight between Godly angels and demonic beings for the PRINCE of Persia and the PRINCE of Greece. THE KINGDOM OF GREECE, at the time of this writing was not even in existance! Thus , we get an understanding that in the Heavenly sphere, both Godly angles and ungodly beings are fighting for nations long before the time is come for that nation to step on to the wold scene. Now notice that these demonic being are referred to as PRINCES in Daniel 10 OK lets read Ezekiel 38 Thus saith the Lord God, Behold I am against thee O Gog , the chief PRINCE of Meshech and Tubal. Thew true picture of what is being spoken of here is that both God and Satan have assigned their supernatural emissaries to stay close to the human leaders of individual nations throughout history The angel attemts to move the kings to make decisions that will implement Gods plan , while the demonic beings will attempt to influence the kings to make decisions that will serve Lucifers purposes. This picture shows Gog hovering close to the human leader of Russia ensuring that the decisions he makes and thoughts of his mind move the nation into Satans orbit.. God will ultimately destroy the armed forces Gog is bringing against Israel, even destroying the land of Gog Magog .....Russia herself. Gog will thus have led the human Russian leader directly into the greatest of national disasters, as God destroys the armed forces and the nation itself. It seems that Gog is out of a job RIGHT? And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prision , who does he bring back with himmmmmmmmmmmmm???????? You got it Prince GOG.....! Jesus bless Israel is Gods time clock
 
And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog. This is very interesting verse about where they will bury Gogs armie, the bible says in Israel but today the Hamongog valley is in Jordan! Did the Bible Make a mistake Or does something happen like the Borders of Israel will expand?.... very interesting?
 
No Bible scholar knows exactly the identification of this Gog , the leader of Russia in this end of age prophecy.
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That's because if they're looking in Russia, they're looking a couple thousand miles too far north!

One more thing: please make standard sentence and paragraph structure your friend.
 
Well my friend If you dont like the way I spell Dont come around! Thats Just A jAB AT mE AND i DONT lIKE IT >>>>>YOUR pROBBLEM pLEASE!!!!!!!!! There is no one forcing you to read my threads so lay OFF!
 
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Well my friend If you dont like the way I spell Dont come around! Thats Just A jAB AT mE AND i DONT lIKE IT >>>>>YOUR pROBBLEM pLEASE!!!!!!!!! There is no one forcing you to read my threads so lay OFF!

I never mentioned your spelling.

One more thing: please make standard sentence and paragraph structure your friend.

I only mentioned it because your OP was impossible to follow: no sentences, no paragraphs. It was a really bad copy-and-paste job.

For what it's worth. :shame
 
I never mentioned your spelling.



I only mentioned it because your OP was impossible to follow: no sentences, no paragraphs. It was a really bad copy-and-paste job.

For what it's worth. :shame
Fitting eh?
 
Who is Gog?

No Bible scholar knows exactly the identification of this Gog , the leader of Russia in this end of age prophecy. Most scholars attempt to identify him as a human leader that will lead Russia into an attack on Israel at the end of time.​
Im curious,is this an out and out fabrication or are you truely so poorly informed?

Do you have a list of the 'scholars' you're talking about?

Do you remember the source you took this from?
 
Im curious,is this an out and out fabrication or are you truely so poorly informed?

Do you have a list of the 'scholars' you're talking about?

Do you remember the source you took this from? >>>>>>>>>> I see your all over the place>>>>>>>>>>very interesting!... are you helping out Moe and JOE?
 
Im curious,is this an out and out fabrication or are you truely so poorly informed?

Do you have a list of the 'scholars' you're talking about?

Do you remember the source you took this from? >>>>>>>>>> I see your all over the place>>>>>>>>>>very interesting!... are you helping out Moe and JOE?
In case you forgot the questions;


Im curious,is this an out and out fabrication or are you truely so poorly informed?

Do you have a list of the 'scholars' you're talking about?

Do you remember the source you took this from?

( Much of your materiel appears to be copied without citation )


I'll take the pressure off, try and answer any ONE of the questions.
 
Rant:

I agree with you about the demonic entities behind human leaders 110%. The book of Daniel definitely clarified that. Your eschatology as to who Gog is (i.e. the nation involved, and the timing) also fits into what I know about eschatology.

Do you interpret Revelation 17:9-11 meaning that the beast that once was (before the Roman empire) and "is not" but will rise again as being one of the entities that will empower Antichrist? I heard it taught once that the Grecian Demon will be the one (one of the fallen, "is not" and will rise again). The reason for that one is because of the connection of the beast with the "King of the North" i.e. of the Seleucid portion of the Grecian Empire.

As for the heckling directed at you, I found the ignore feature is very helpful. From my end here you look like you're talking with yourself! :lol However, when I want to talk about serious prophecy, I found it's best to filter out the muck so that I can listen to and communicate with those who truly believe there's going to be an end time. It jumps me right to their post.
 
Rev-That was and will be. Its very interesting > Only the watchers that Have have the Ghost can truly understand prophocy >>>>>>>>> And I am not saying I am a prophet!.........the simple things in the bible and prophecy..... and people have it all worped>>>>>>>>>>>>no Ghost Understanding.... they will.... give me HEll for even calling it the Ghost... Their Bible Has No Ghost and Hell... Enjoy Israel is Gods Time Line>>>>>>>>>they dont understand Why I say this?
 
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Rev-That was and will be.
<B>Who is Gog?

No Bible scholar knows exactly the identification of this Gog , the leader of Russia in this end of age prophecy. Most scholars attempt to identify him as a human leader that will lead Russia into an attack on Israel at the end of time.
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In case you forgot the questions;


Im curious,is this an out and out fabrication or are you truely so poorly informed?

Do you have a list of the 'scholars' you're talking about?

Do you remember the source you took this from?

( Much of your materiel appears to be copied without citation )


I'll take the pressure off, try and answer any ONE of the questions.
 
Man H >>>>>>>>>>Just Get The Ghost and read the Bible! Not the church or anyone but only you can get the ghost seek and you will find ........ but not by man or church! Once was As today?
 
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Revelations 17>> the seven heads have drank verse 11>>>>>>>>>> It totally shifts Gears in into the future in verse 12!A lot of People can not see it >>no Ghost.
 
Man H >>>>>>>>>>Just Get The Ghost and read the Bible! Not the church or anyone but only you can get the ghost seek and you will find ........ but not by man or church! Once was As today?
The 'Ghost' told me to check your ethics, so far you're not doing very well:


In case you forgot the questions;


Im curious,is this an out and out fabrication or are you truely so poorly informed?

Do you have a list of the 'scholars' you're talking about?

Do you remember the source you took this from?

( Much of your materiel appears to be copied without citation )
 
Hitch Why are you on my back????????? did I say something to you that you seem so??????????? very interesting >>>>> Hay Hatch can You Guid Me to one of your Threads So I can Read IT!
 
Hitch Why are you on my back?????????
You made a bold assertion ;
Who is Gog?
No Bible scholar knows exactly the identification of this Gog , the leader of Russia in this end of age prophecy. Most scholars attempt to identify him as a human leader that will lead Russia into an attack on Israel at the end of time.
You have three times refused to name even one of these 'scholars' and three times you have refused to cite your source.
did I say something to you that you seem so???????????
see above
very interesting >>>>> Hay Hatch can You Guid Me to one of your Threads So I can Read IT!
I told you look up 'threads started by Hitch ' .
 
Revelation 20:8
" and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea."

It seems to me Gogs a referral of 2 of the four corners of the earth, or 1 of th 4 or 3 of the 4,

It could appear to be the top half of the worlds population, or the bottom half, or the left side or the right side of that population from the cap of the saints and the beloved city.

1 corner, 3 corners being 3/4's of the worlds population as in example of the half's given above.
 
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