Won't Support A Candidate Because He's...A Methodist?

[Mike S]

I guess it had to happen somewhere, sooner or later; you can't trust those Methodists.



http://texasimpact.org/content/statement-texas-religious-leaders-recent-anti-methodist-comments

In a Friday morning Fort Worth Star Telegram article by Bud Kennedy, we became aware that Tea Party leader Julie McCarty has opposed a local candidate for criminal court judge because “he is a Methodist…Methodists tend not to take a stand on issues – anything goes.” She explained why she is supporting another candidate in the race: “My preference is a straitlaced Baptist to an everything-goes Methodist.”


But, this isn't the first time Texas has reacted badly to Methodists.

We’ve been down this road before in Texas. Shortly before the Civil War, a Methodist minister was lynched in Ft. Worth, and two more whipped and run out of Dallas in what became known as “The Texas Troubles.” Their “crime” was being members of the faction of the Methodist Church that opposed slavery, as opposed to the faction that supported it.


Maybe I should stay clear of Texas.

Actually, I like what the Presbyterian minister said in A River Runs Through It; "A Methodist is a Baptist who can read."


What to do! I like Texas and I like Norman Maclean.

 

[Kathi]

I am not into denominations.I never have been.I prefer to be known as a Christian.

 

[evenifigoalone]

Heck, and here I'd vote for someone who wasn't even Christian if I thought he was a good choice. Guess I must be terribly backslidden.

My impression of Methodists is that they're not all that different from Southern baptists.

 

[Deborah13]

Mike S I'm glad we can finally agree on something about this world. I love the movie, A River Runs Through It, and the actor as well.

There's a little town in eastern Colorado, out on the plains, that you wouldn't like either. I wonder if both them and some in Texas have had their brains affected by all the wind.

 

[Mike S]

Mike S I'm glad we can finally agree on something about this world. I love the movie, A River Runs Through It, and the actor as well.

There's a little town in eastern Colorado, out on the plains, that you wouldn't like either. I wonder if both them and some in Texas have had their brains affected by all the wind.

I hope it's not La Junta, my uncle lived there his whole adult life, raised his family there.

 

[Deborah13]

I hope it's not La Junta, my uncle lived there his whole adult life, raised his family there.

No not La Junta. I'd have to ask my friend again. She was assigned at this town for a few months for business. She said she couldn't wait to get out of there, that the discrimination was open and threatening. No blacks lived there. This was about 15 yrs ago. I was thinking it was more recent than that but she's been retired now for several yrs. I remember it was a really tiny town and she witnessed a behavior by a store owner and heard things, Klan type talk, wherever it was. I think it was right on the eastern border.

 

[Mike S]

No not La Junta. I'd have to ask my friend again. She was assigned at this town for a few months for business. She said she couldn't wait to get out of there, that the discrimination was open and threatening. No blacks lived there. This was about 15 yrs ago. I was thinking it was more recent than that but she's been retired now for several yrs. I remember it was a really tiny town and she witnessed a behavior by a store owner and heard things, Klan type talk, wherever it was. I think it was right on the eastern border.

The unhappy truth is there are idiots everywhere. The happy truth is that there are more good people than bad.

I just posted this as a bit of humor anyway, I don't think anyone's offended over something this silly.

 

[Deborah13]

The unhappy truth is there are idiots everywhere. The happy truth is that there are more good people than bad.

I just posted this as a bit of humor anyway, I don't think anyone's offended over something this silly.

I don't think anyone would be offended in the way you presented.
And yes, I think there are more caring people in the world than we sometimes think.

 

[reba]

Any time you have people from 1 to a zillion you have 1 to a zillion headaches at one time or another... not one group of people are always with every thing right or wrong. Paul and Peter did not always agree...

 

[Mike S]

Any time you have people from 1 to a zillion you have 1 to a zillion headaches at one time or another... not one group of people are always with every thing right or wrong. Paul and Peter did not always agree...

My take on this, reba, is that people who speak a lot in public will sometimes say something silly, and immediately realize it. I'm pretty tolerant of that, I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often.

It happens at all levels with people of all ideologies. I remember a time several years ago when the town council was considering removing trees from town property and one of the council members said "Remember to save one as the hanging tree." This in a majority black town. There was a little shock at first, and then everyone began ribbing him about it, he took a lot of kidding. He's a white man, a long time resident who no one believes is racist. He just said something silly in an off-the-cuff comment and immediately knew it didn't come out the way he meant it.

Who among us has never said something foolish, and immediately regretted saying it? I think we need to lighten up on the outrage thing and understand we're all human.

 

[Sandy Zalecki]

No not La Junta. I'd have to ask my friend again. She was assigned at this town for a few months for business. She said she couldn't wait to get out of there, that the discrimination was open and threatening. No blacks lived there. This was about 15 yrs ago. I was thinking it was more recent than that but she's been retired now for several yrs. I remember it was a really tiny town and she witnessed a behavior by a store owner and heard things, Klan type talk, wherever it was. I think it was right on the eastern border.

I am from a little town in eastern Colorado called Wray. That could have been the town. There were no blacks there and they hated all the Mexican workers that used to come in to hoe the sugar beets. Now they no longer have sugar beets, the they are still very prejudiced. One of the people I know there gets a large amount of money from the government not to farm his land, but he doesn't like the fact that anyone of color will get something from the government. Very hypocritical I believe. I couldn't wait to get out of that town either. I left one month after I graduated.

 

[Deborah13]

I am from a little town in eastern Colorado called Wray. That could have been the town. There were no blacks there and they hated all the Mexican workers that used to come in to hoe the sugar beets. Now they no longer have sugar beets, the they are still very prejudiced. One of the people I know there gets a large amount of money from the government not to farm his land, but he doesn't like the fact that anyone of color will get something from the government. Very hypocritical I believe. I couldn't wait to get out of that town either. I left one month after I graduated.

I've seen the same things against Hispanics in my community. However, over the last 30 yrs things have gotten better, even to the point that one of the old ranch families daughters recently married a very nice Hispanic man. He works for the the forest service and his little boy is good friends with my grandson.
Also the grandson of another old family and his wife have adopted two Hispanic brothers and they have their own daughter, strawberry blonde with freckles. Moms a redhead, Dads sandy brown, they are a colorful family.
Things are better by far.

 

[reba]

Seeing the prejudices in Carmel-by-the-Sea California becoming aware such stuff even existed ( high school years) the sounds and pictures of MLK making his speech never left me... still racism was distant... years later our first grandchild was born at that very moment racism hit home. This baby would not be welcome in a number of places judged only on the color of his skin..

Prejudices are just plain ol dumb... they come in many ranges not just skin color, types of clothing, religion, denominations, where one was born, political views, accents, much i do believe is born out of fear of the unknown.

While being slightly lost in downtown San Francisco... i came to stop sign... in an area where no one was around...cept this one guy crossing the street in front of me... i quickly checked/clicked the lock button.... he heard it... sadly shook his head, it was then i noticed he was a black man.... I am sure he took my actions as prejudice

 

[reba]

This has gone off topic 2 so i will add another I love the movie Giant

 

[Sandy Zalecki]

Ye,s I now it well. My husband was married to a Hispanic woman and had a couple of cute girls. His dad owned a really nice ranch on a river. My husband was supposed to get that ranch but because he was married to a Hispanic woman he didn't get it. It was very sad because my husband worked really hard on that ranch and his parents went back on their promise. Don't know if things have gotten better in this community or not. I haven't lived there in 40 years and I never plan to either.

 

[Mike S]

This has gone off topic 2 so i will add another I love the movie Giant

Yes, it has gotten a little off topic, so let me too add another one, one that adds a little to the Methodist references.

One Foot in Heaven is a great moral movie. It recreates scenes from a Methodist minister's life in the early20th century, and ends with a gathering of the faithful at a Methodist church. It's one of the most moving final scenes I can remember.

 

[Kathi]

Seeing the prejudices in Carmel-by-the-Sea California becoming aware such stuff even existed ( high school years) the sounds and pictures of MLK making his speech never left me... still racism was distant... years later our first grandchild was born at that very moment racism hit home. This baby would not be welcome in a number of places judged only on the color of his skin..

Prejudices are just plain ol dumb... they come in many ranges not just skin color, types of clothing, religion, denominations, where one was born, political views, accents, much i do believe is born out of fear of the unknown.

While being slightly lost in downtown San Francisco... i came to stop sign... in an area where no one was around...cept this one guy crossing the street in front of me... i quickly checked/clicked the lock button.... he heard it... sadly shook his head, it was then i noticed he was a black man.... I am sure he took my actions as prejudice

God does not see color.

 

[reba]

You sure Kathi He did make the rainbow :tongue

 

[Kathi]

You sure Kathi He did make the rainbow :tongue

I mean in a negative way silly He loves us all yellow,black or white.

 

[reba]

LOL 60 years ago we sang that song quite often in Sunday School