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But a father cannot exclude him from being a son. No matter what that father does...........He is still a son. The father may make him least in the inheritance, but he is still a son.

Which is why I brought up omniscient, objective morality. Compared To a finite, subjective morality. It SEEMS barbaric from our vantage point(Subjective and finite). But perfectly moral from a sovereign, Just, righteous and all knowing vantage point. And if we base things off of Gods perfect...

Yes, He does. But it is based upon a omniscient, objective morality. Not a finite, subjective morality. God is Just and righteous in all His dealings with mankind. It might be immoral to the finite subjective mind to "kill the killer", But it is very moral to the omniscient, objective mind...

It absolutely does not. Unless, one wants to claim that there is immorality for those who live in Spirituality(Gods plan for their lives.)

gr8grace3 said: If we go back to Adam. And If Adam lived in Gods plan, remained in fellowship with the Lord and never ate that darn fruit.........There was no need for rules, regulations and perimeters(moral laws.) That was my point. Eating the fruit was a rule broken, thus breaking fellowship...

If we go back to Adam. And If Adam lived in Gods plan, remained in fellowship with the Lord and never ate that darn fruit.........There was no need for rules, regulations and perimeters(moral laws.) Living Spiritually(In Gods plan for our lives) naturally produces morality. And after the fall...

That is a well hidden fact in satans world.

Yes. No And theology comes from the bible. His written word to us. And the study of His written word to us. And you told me that the will of God doesn't come from study.........but listening. Studying is listening. So do you study and have a bible so we can discuss His mind? .

Do you have a bible and study the bible or do you get special revelation?

So their works don't matter at all right? It's about what one BELIEVES.

Grace and mercy and they(the fallen angels) rejected it......because that is what we(believing mankind) witness to them. His Grace and His Mercy. The fallen angels didn't accept it and we witness it to them.......to verify Gods righteous judgment.(by 2 or 3 witnesses/ the church is a witness)...

We can expound on this a bit. Jesus became a man, and died as a man for the sins of MANKIND not for demons and fallen angels. Notice that the demon said," have you come to torment us before the time." Denoting that the fallen angels are already judged. But the execution of that judgement has not...

Sorry, but that is just silly. If one is a Christian, they are in Christendom(If that is the phraseology you want to use.) We may be a babe, adolescent or mature in Christ..........but we are All in "Christendom" the moment we trust in Him.

Pretty much every religion on this planet pushes these principles. The mormons are good to go and have eternal life? They are the epitome of your list of fruits for eternal life. OR is there a way for Christians to produce these fruits that are DIVINE and mormons are just plumb full of HUMAN good?

Thanks.

You already posted some. I answered a lot of your questions, and your obviously struggling with these principles. So let me ask this. What do you disagree with in these principles? In order to walk in the works that God has prepared for us we MUST: Not be grieving the Spirit. Not be...

Exactly.

Semantics. Studying His word is listening to Him. John 1:1~~New American Standard Bible In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Heb 4:12~~New American Standard Bible For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and...

Nope. If a believer is not quenching or grieving the Spirit. Is filled with the Spirit and is walking by means of the Spirit and gives to the poor it is divine Good. If a believer is quenching or grieving the Spirit and is not filled and walking by means of the Spirit and gives to the poor. It's...

And the operative word is 'should.' Maybe we will, maybe we won't. We have to know His plan and how to operate in that plan before we can even think about doing divine good. It takes constant practice(study,study,study) to discern divine good and evil(human good.) Heb 5:14~~ New International...