Charismatics ARE Cessationists

[Hitch]

YES Hitch! There were DIRECT witnesses and people were even saved on the cancer healing.

Who? I'll bet there are 100 cancer patients in the same area who have died and I dont even know where you;re at

You don't have to believe me, I don't really care.

Thats good because I am under command not to take your word for it

I KNOW what happened and so do other people. It was a miracle from God. That person is alive and well today!

Ok any objective third party verification.? Remember Jesus sent the leaper to the priest to verify the healing

What are the gifts of the Holy Spirit? Why do you guys deny what the Bible says?

Why dont you prove your claim in honor to God?

How many cancer patients have you prayed for? I'll wager its far more than the one you lay claim to healing.

Jesus and the apostles healed many who had outwardly visible symptoms of their disease , whithered arm, leaporsy,that sort of thing,how about you?

 

[reba]

Whitiny I am also in north west USA . How about finding a way to get together. I would love to met these people you through the Lord have so blessed.


And so is hitch
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[whitney]

Who? I'll bet there are 100 cancer patients in the same area who have died and I dont even know where you;re at

Could be.

Ok any objective thrid party verification.? Remember Jesus sent the leaper to the priest to verify the healing

You wouldn't believe them either.

Why dont you prove your claim in honor to God?

You wouldn't believe that either.

 

[zone]

Old age? Who knows? Lack of faith is not a reason for illness.

please say what the reasons for illness are.
please prove by email, video, testimony, medical records ANYTHING: where a man born without sight was made to see, a lame for 30 some years picked up his mat and walked instantly AND leaped for joy.....ppl received healing by holding your hanky...ANYTHING.
PROVE IT. wouldn't you wish to, if you were so certain it was the work of God?

WE WANT TO SEE.

 

[zone]

I am obeying Jesus by not casting my pearls. It is applicable and a good decision in this case.

I am only a laughingstock to those who hate. I am pleased to be considered a fool for Christ.

your doctrine is false.
calling you on it doesn't make us haters.

 

[Sam21]

you had a personal visit from Jesus?
this is extremely imporant news.

please tell me exactly how He appeared to you, exactly what he said to you about what you were doing wrong, and what to do right. the church needs this information.

OK, I did not get to see Jesus. The experience went like this. I was very sick at about 2 in the morning and praying like I had a hundred times before saying,"with Jesus stripes I am healed" and like the hundred times before I was staying sick. Suddenly I just stopped and said,"this is not working". At that moment Jesus begin to speak to my mind,He said,"you have spoken the truth,it is not working and it is not working because you do not believe it". At that point I was a little upset(I was in pain)and I said back to the Lord,"what do you mean I do not believe it, if I did not believe it then why would I be saying this at two in the morning". the Lord answered back to me," you do believe it about 98%, it is that 2% that is keeping it from happening". When He said that to me He immediately put in my mind the scripture that says you can have what you want IF YOU DOUBT NOT. I realized that He was telling me that I had to be completely convinced. I said to the Lord,"no one can believe like that(100%)", the Lord said to me,"O yes you can". Anyway I believed what He told me and it felt like grabbing a bull by the horns and refusing to let go. The moment I begin to believe as Jesus had instructed me something hit my body with such power and I begin to heal. At one point I felt so strong that I said,"I can't be that strong", again the Lord spoke to me and said,"that is not your strength that is My strength". The moment He said that this verse was placed in my mind, I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. So I was healed. What I remember about it was the incredible power of Jesus Christ, and His incredible kindness in stepping in to help me.

 

[whitney]

Whitiny I am also in north west USA . How about finding a way to get together. I would love to met these people you through the Lord have so blessed.


And so is hitch

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[jasoncran]

I'm not sure what you are saying, can you rephrase this maybe?

timothy was a child of god and you claimed that all healing is in the past that we must claim it to have it(or something like). thus if that was so then why did it take another prayer and begging by paul a man of faith?

 

[Hitch]

Could be.

You wouldn't believe them either.

You wouldn't believe that either.

So is mind reading a gift of the Spirit now?

 

[zone]

It is God's will that we be well. That is the truth.

please document fully in Scipture all passages saying 'God's will is that we all be well' (by this i can only assume you mean physically fit and and always in prime health).

you may use James....please FULL DOCUMENTATION. i must insist, since you are adament, and you declare this to be Biblical TRUTH.

 

[Hitch]

your doctrine is false.
calling you on it doesn't make us haters.

Well pig haters,,or hated pigs??? Idunno

 

[zone]

OK, I did not get to see Jesus. The experience went like this. I was very sick at about 2 in the morning and praying like I had a hundred times before saying,"with Jesus stripes I am healed" and like the hundred times before I was staying sick. Suddenly I just stopped and said,"this is not working". At that moment Jesus begin to speak to my mind,He said,"you have spoken the truth,it is not working and it is not working because you do not believe it". At that point I was a little upset(I was in pain)and I said back to the Lord,"what do you mean I do not believe it, if I did not believe it then why would I be saying this at two in the morning". the Lord answered back to me," you do believe it about 98%, it is that 2% that is keeping it from happening". When He said that to me He immediately put in my mind the scripture that says you can have what you want IF YOU DOUBT NOT. I realized that He was telling me that I had to be completely convinced. I said to the Lord,"no one can believe like that(100%)", the Lord said to me,"O yes you can". Anyway I believed what He told me and it felt like grabbing a bull by the horns and refusing to let go. The moment I begin to believe as Jesus had instructed me something hit my body with such power and I begin to heal. At one point I felt so strong that I said,"I can't be that strong", again the Lord spoke to me and said,"that is not your strength that is My strength". The moment He said that this verse was placed in my mind, I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. So I was healed. What I remember about it was the incredible power of Jesus Christ, and His incredible kindness in stepping in to help me.

ok.
i have no comment.

 

[Hitch]

Ok

With every head closed

and every eye bowed

Im going to tell you...

Some bodys' got a headache

And I COMMAND headache begone by tomorrow

 

[zone]

Well pig haters,,or hated pigs??? Idunno

this charismania/WoF so embarassing for the Church. as another poster has said, i wish we would clean house.

 

[jasoncran]

i am charismatic and i am not one of these types in the wild claims. DO not lump us all together.

my pastor doesnt like creffo dollar,hinn or copeland and meyer.

 

[whitney]

i am charismatic and i am not one of these types in the wild claims. DO not lump us all together.

my pastor doesnt like creffo dollar,hinn or copeland and meyer.

I don't listen to them. I'm charismatic and don't speak in tongues, and you probably do jason, huh?

 

[whitney]

this charismania/WoF so embarassing for the Church. as another poster has said, i wish we would clean house.

yeah, of unbelief.

 

[jasoncran]

I don't listen to them. I'm charismatic and don't speak in tongues, and you probably do jason, huh?

ah that side of the house. christian and missionary alliance and one other group teaching healing promises.

yes i do. but not that often.

 

[zone]

i am charismatic and i am not one of these types in the wild claims. DO not lump us all together.

my pastor doesnt like creffo dollar,hinn or copeland and meyer.

i don't know what you claim as a 'charismatic'....so i don't know whether to lump you in with the heretics or not.

what do you believe...and 'do'?

what church do you affliliate with?

 

[Alabaster]

You referred to a member of the Body of Christ as a swine.

Never used the word... ;)