I don't know how you "know" all of this but you have made several large assumptions about what I believe. You really don't know what I believe.
I have made assumptions of "What" you believe and that leads to debating things we both agree on which does not make much progression.
Are you saying that I have said we are some sort of class of gods?
Exactly what I am saying. Because if monkey's offspring are Monkey's and Dog's offspring are puppies. What would God's offspring or children be? We are born by the Word of God and each seed produces after it's kind. You don't change spiritual Laws because it throws off what you think "god" means. The spiritual law that God set forth changes us, not the other way around. The problem you have is your concept of a god. The Bible clearly defines god as deity of uncertain affinity. Something immortal ................. Elyohiem is plural god-like goddess-works of god........... Whatever........ Can refer to God the Creator, God the Father in singular sense.
Theos which Jesus called us was in response to them accusing him as making himself out God because they understood if He claims to be the son of God then He himself must Also be God. Jesus literately called them gods in the sense they were also god. Otherwise he would have said something different in response to them going to stone him from being mad about him making himself out to be a God.
By definition, by class, by who our Father is, we are gods. We are not in any other class, or created in the servant class of the angels who also fit the definition. God had actual Children He made in his very image.
Let this mind be in you who was also in Christ Jesus. The mind that we are equal with God. That is only misunderstood if you have a wrong concept of what god is. Theos being a Male noun can have a title associated with it.
It's the same thing Jesus said to turn the other cheek, love your enemies that you be the children of God. That is what someone does who by nature is like the father and as a child of God. If you don't do that and make yourself lower putting others first thinking the same way God would or as the Greek put it think in equal terms as God does, let this mind be in us also that was in Christ Jesus.
So we go to psalm 82. Jesus quoted that.
So you are about to stone me for making myself out to be God. Guess what, your also gods as the scriptures says and the scripture cannot be broken. (In other words you can't change who you are)
Psa 82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.
Psa 82:4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.
Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust
Psa 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
Mat 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
I am not saying your some sort of class of gods.................... What am saying your just like your father in Heaven in class and expected to walk in the nature by which you are. That would be Like the Father God, Who is God the Father and your god his child.
It's only when we put a religious spin on what god means, we come up with strange understanding of who created us and in what image we were created. For theos "god" is just an immortal being of uncertain affinity unless defined. Jesus defined us as gods, just like the Father but by nature of the Father and not in power.
If we don't like the term god used to define the nature we are, then someone can take that up with Jesus or the Holy Spirit who gave the Word.
Mike.
