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can anyone show me once saved always saved, the book, the chapter ,the verse that says" once saved always saved",I marvel at how people will follow a doctrine that is not even in the Bible

I'm not speaking of anyone in particular,my real concern is that if you ever convince someone that if they do commit suicide they're OK and then going to heaven if you're wrong they go to hell

then you are saying that once we are saved we no longer have any way of not becoming unsaved.can you still commit the unforgivable sin once you are saved?do you still have the choice to reject your salvation once you are saved?

I agree with you to the point that God does the keeping,I really do not have the answer,but it seems to me when you take your own life you make yourself God and you take back the life you had given to him and you destroy the temple that you had promised to him,

No not universalism I personally don't believe in the phrase once saved always saved

me too I just don't like the phrase because it's not in the Bible

jesus said I never knew you therefore they could not have known him to be saved

the possibility does exist we can reject God as long as we live but why would we

I agree a friend of mine are going back and forth he is in the once saved always saved by grace camp

some say not me those people were not saved in the first place

the rebuttal to that not mine is that those people that Jesus were talking to you were not saved in the first place

if you are saved and commit suicide do you still go to heaven

okay that was simple

do you believe this