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Can we be liberal and Biblical? Are they oxymorons?
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I love your posts, handy. Very well said.handy said:Yes and no.
Yes, Christians can be liberal.
No, that's not an oxymoron.
I spend a lot of time on conservative forums. Often I want to shout, "Jesus is NOT a right-wing, American Republican!!!"
I also attend the very liberal ELCA and there I often want to shout, "Jesus it NOT a left-wing, American Democrat.
Liberal and Conservative are two words that have been hijacked here in American politics almost to the point where we are going to have to re-write dictionaries.
jeremiahj13 said:I say no. Christians can not be liberal.
i say amen to that, but much of liberal doctrine is also anti scriptural, that why i vote toward the other party even though they are heading that way as well.All Englands Skies said:jeremiahj13 said:I say no. Christians can not be liberal.
I agree.
But dare i say it?
I do not think Christians can be "conservative" neither.
they're both modern terms, applied to a set of ideals.
Now Christianity, has ideals in it, some that would fit into the modern "conservative" catogory and others that fit into the modern "liberal" catogory.
Thats why i stress the importence to be and act Christian, rather than to camp out in groups of "conservative Christians" and "liberal Christians"
US government and politics as a whole is anti scriptural thanks to the first amendment's purpose to give all religions an equal footing. Disobeying the first commandment.jasoncran said:i say amen to that, but much of liberal doctrine is also anti scriptural, that why i vote toward the other party even though they are heading that way as well.All Englands Skies said:jeremiahj13 said:I say no. Christians can not be liberal.
I agree.
But dare i say it?
I do not think Christians can be "conservative" neither.
they're both modern terms, applied to a set of ideals.
Now Christianity, has ideals in it, some that would fit into the modern "conservative" catogory and others that fit into the modern "liberal" catogory.
Thats why i stress the importence to be and act Christian, rather than to camp out in groups of "conservative Christians" and "liberal Christians"
jason
i agree on that statement, i know then line on that, but see the thread on is american a christian nation, oy vay on that oneLance_Iguana said:It was the Conservatives original point to keep the constitution as it is. Meaning that conservatives supported the first amendment. Meaning they were for putting all religion on an equal pedestal.
The conservatives are also pro gun ( I am to an extent), pro death penalty, and pro alcohol ( a more dangerous chemical then THC).
Both idealisms are not exactly buddy buddy with the teaching of Jesus and Paul.
jasoncran said:i say amen to that, but much of liberal doctrine is also anti scriptural, that why i vote toward the other party even though they are heading that way as well.
jason
All Englands Skies said:jeremiahj13 said:I say no. Christians can not be liberal.
I agree.
But dare i say it?
I do not think Christians can be "conservative" neither.
they're both modern terms, applied to a set of ideals.
Now Christianity, has ideals in it, some that would fit into the modern "conservative" catogory and others that fit into the modern "liberal" catogory.
Thats why i stress the importence to be and act Christian, rather than to camp out in groups of "conservative Christians" and "liberal Christians"
jeremiahj13 said:All Englands Skies said:jeremiahj13 said:I say no. Christians can not be liberal.
I agree.
But dare i say it?
I do not think Christians can be "conservative" neither.
they're both modern terms, applied to a set of ideals.
Now Christianity, has ideals in it, some that would fit into the modern "conservative" catogory and others that fit into the modern "liberal" catogory.
Thats why i stress the importence to be and act Christian, rather than to camp out in groups of "conservative Christians" and "liberal Christians"
You twisted my ideology to fit your agenda lol. I believe CHRISTIANS should be conservative. Its time to quit being such wimps and quit trying to stay neutral in the political war. I got news for you;
Liberal politics kicked God, prayer, and bible-reading out of school, its legalizing gay marriage in a growing number of states, in legalized murder of the unborn innocent, and its causing islam to take over the world.
Im a conservative Christian, and dam proud of it.