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Willie T said:
...who might be several feet apart.
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When I was in school, the students were not several feet apart in the hallways during class changes. If someone had stood at one end of the hallway and shot with an inaccurate bumpstock, he would have taken out dozens. It would have been almost impossible to miss, there were so many children in the corridor.

Again, I'm not saying that outlawing bumpstocks or AR-15s will solve this problem. Just that telling students to throw books at a shooter is not much of a plan. Maybe better than telling them to hide under a desk, but still not very effective. They need a better plan than that.
 
Did you know that a .45 caliber round is almost a half-inch in diameter.... while an AR-15 round is less than a quarter of an inch?
 
Michael74 said:
Oh, absolutely. Banning the AR-15 won't solve the problem. That was never my point. I was saying that throwing books at a shooter who knows what he is doing is not very effective. Nor is telling young girls to distract a shooter by trying to tackle him so that their classmates can get away. They need a better plan than that.
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OMG yes
 
Michael74 said:
When I was in school, the students were not several feet apart in the hallways during class changes. If someone had stood at one end of the hallway and shot with an inaccurate bumpstock, he would have taken out dozens. It would have been almost impossible to miss, there were so many children in the corridor.





To be honest I really don't know what would be more effective at this point. However, I am starting to agree with you on that one.

Again, I'm not saying that outlawing bumpstocks or AR-15s will solve this problem. Just that telling students to throw books at a shooter is not much of a plan. Maybe better than telling them to hide under a desk, but still not very effective. They need a better plan than that.
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Willie T said:
Squeeze your trigger finger as fast as you can..... counting how many times you squeeze it before 15 seconds have elapsed on a clock. Go ahead.... Now tell us how many times it was. That is how many times almost 90% of the rifles in the world can be fired in 15 seconds. A Semi-automatic weapon can kill far more people who might be several feet apart than a fully automatic weapon will....... because you can control it way better.
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67. I just used a timer. Holy cow! I'd need a drum ...
 
One of the reasons fully automatic rifles are not often used in combat is because of their ineffective inaccuracy. A fully automatic weapon "CLIMBS" consistently as it is fired. It truly is almost impossible to hold it at the level of people standing right in front of you if you do not let off the trigger and begin using it more like a semi-automatic. (fire in small bursts) You will consistently fire more rounds up toward the ceiling if you do not let off the trigger.
 
Willie T said:
Yes, they are more accurate at long distances. Classrooms are not in that range..... not by a long ways.
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And those guys were only firing very short bursts. Had they held the triggers back, they would soon be firing almost straight up in the air.
 
Willie T said:
Yes, they are more accurate at long distances. Classrooms are not in that range..... not by a long ways.
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That's not the only reason. The shape and velocity of military rounds makes them turn around inside enemy bodies, and often shatter into fragments. This irregular trajectory causes extensive tissue displacement. Much more than a straight path, in one side and out the other, does. There are many studies on this. Gel tests and field medic experiences confirm the efficacy of small, high velocity rounds.

Rifles are definitely more effective at long range than handguns, if that was your point.
 
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Stripper clips... Can be used to load a magazine or the weapon directly with the correct adapter

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Magazines... Can be loaded with stripper clips or by hand one round at a time...
 
HeIsRisen2018 said:
The first news story of the day is police in Marlboro Ohio (I have no idea where that is lol) are encouraging parents and grandparents that are gun owners to lock up their weapons and are handing out free gun locks to ensure that happens.
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When I was a kid, I knew where all my dad's guns were and which ones were loaded.
None of them were locked up and I could go and get one if I wanted to.
I never felt the need to shoot anyone.

And, just as a point, noting is "free". Somebody paid for those gun locks; the cost came out of taxes.

We don't have a gun problem.
We have a people problem.

Chicago is an example of a city with very tough gun laws.
In the first two months of this year, there have been 286 shooting incidents and 78 slayings. (That's down 22% from last year)
Chicago had 650 homicides in 2017 and 762 homicides in 2016.
In 2017, Baltimore had 343 homicides, Philadelphia 317, New York 290, and Los Angeles 286.
That's 1,886 murders which are primarily gang related.
That's a people problem.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-650-murders-grim-sign-improvement/994281001/
 
Welcome to another edition of today's news. And we start off today's news with the continuing story of the four year old little girl Aniya Day Garrett who was murdered by her mother and her mother's boyfriend. Protestors gathered together last night for a call to action and request for justice at her expense.


http://fox8.com/2018/04/09/protesters-of-aniya-day-garrett-case-gather-overnight-speak-out/



And police had a rather amusing response after somebody decided to TP the chief of police's truck. Here's more.



http://fox8.com/2018/04/09/police-have-amusing-response-after-someone-toilet-papers-chiefs-truck/



And jury selection began this morning for a man accused of murder, kidnapping, and the abuse of a corpse. Here's more on the story.

http://fox8.com/2018/04/09/jury-selection-begins-today-for-accused-ashland-serial-killer/



Also, a woman rescued from a burning apartment building is rushed to the hospital this morning.


http://fox8.com/2018/04/09/woman-pulled-from-apartment-following-fire-rushed-to-hospital/


And a missing Canton teenager has been indeed found and reunited with her mother. Here's more on the story.


http://fox8.com/2018/04/08/missing-canton-teen-found-in-lorain-county/



Also Jimmy Kimmel apologizes for remarks about the first lady regarding her accent.



http://fox8.com/2018/04/08/jimmy-kimmel-apologizes-for-remarks-about-first-lady/



And Ford recalls three hundred and fifty thousand trucks, and SUV'S due to a concern that they can roll away when parked.


http://fox8.com/2018/04/06/ford-recalls-350k-trucks-suvs-that-can-roll-when-parked/



And a Canadian town mourns the (updated) fifteen people that were killed in a bus crash last Friday. Here's more on the story.


http://fox8.com/2018/04/08/canadian-town-mourns-15-killed-when-truck-team-bus-collide/



And also although the coldest game in Progressive history, the Indians were hot yesterday in a 3-1 victory over the Gomes. ( :woot)


http://fox8.com/2018/04/08/cold-weather-hot-game-tribe-wins-on-walk-off-by-gomes/




Also Facebook is about to tell its users whether or not their data was shared with Cambridge Analytica.



http://fox8.com/2018/04/08/four-questions-congress-must-ask-zuckerberg/



And Akron police investigate three possible drug overdoses of the three women that were found dead in a home over the weekend.


http://fox8.com/2018/04/08/akron-police-investigate-possible-overdose-deaths-of-three-women/



And finally in today's news, the Alliance police department is handing out free stuffed animals to children who stop by and see them. (how sweet :))


http://fox8.com/2018/04/08/alliance-police-department-handing-out-free-stuffed-animals-to-children/




That's all for today's news and stay tuned for more news to come! :biggrin2
 
Well I really found the tribute to the hockey players touching, but although I really appreciate the medical team they don't work miracles. Jesus is the only one who works miracles. I hope these guys are all in a better place now. :halo
 
I'm sorry that I'm a little bit late with this today but I've been a bit busy. So anyways, welcome to another edition of today's news. In our first news story of the day, a man has been found guilty of murder in an argument over a stolen bike. Here's more.


http://fox8.com/2018/04/10/man-found-guilty-of-murder-in-fight-over-stolen-dirt-bike/



And the tables are turned as an officer from Avon Ohio finds himself under arrest after being accused of punching a security guard and looking up the skirt of a waitress.



http://fox8.com/2018/04/10/avon-off...o-look-up-waitress-skirt-at-cleveland-casino/




Also, the body of a missing ninety-eight year old Wadsworth woman has finally been discovered in the closet of her home. Here's more of the details.



http://fox8.com/2018/04/10/wadsworth-police-bci-at-home-of-missing-98-year-old-woman/



And it's a whole new level of stupid as people are accused of harassing and throwing carrots at an alligator in South Carolina.


http://fox8.com/2018/04/10/a-new-le...owing-carrots-at-alligator-in-south-carolina/



Also, a man is charged with arson in the case of two fires in Olmsted Township.



http://fox8.com/2018/04/10/man-charged-with-arson-in-two-olmsted-township-house-fires/



And speaking of fires, more than a dozen girls leapt off of their dance studio balcony to escape a fire that occurred last night.



http://fox8.com/2018/04/10/girls-jump-drop-from-balcony-to-escape-dance-studio-fire/



And a man is dead after his house caught fire this morning. (fires are happening all over the place! :shame)


http://fox8.com/2018/04/10/man-dies-in-akron-house-fire/


And also six people are dead after a small plane catches fire. Here's more.


http://fox8.com/2018/04/10/6-dead-after-small-plane-catches-fire-crashes-at-arizona-golf-course/


Also a teacher's rant goes viral after she posts about her disruptive students, rude parents, and measly salary.


http://fox8.com/2018/04/10/teachers...ts-rude-parents-and-measly-salary-goes-viral/



And a California family disappears after leaving on a spring break road trip.



http://fox8.com/2018/04/10/california-family-disappears-after-leaving-on-spring-break-road-trip/



And apparently a woman owes her life to wallet after it miraculously stops a bullet from hitting her and her husband. (she definitely had her guardian angel protecting her :halo)



http://fox8.com/2018/04/09/its-a-miracle-couple-unhurt-after-bullet-stopped-by-womans-wallet/



Also, a man who was wrongfully convicted and spent thirteen years behind bars has decided to serve his community himself.


http://fox8.com/2018/04/09/wrongful...serve-his-community-now-hes-a-police-officer/



And another win for the Cleveland Indians as they beat the Tigers 2-0. (way to go Klubber! :woot)


http://fox8.com/2018/04/09/kluber-strikes-out-13-pitches-indians-over-tigers-2-0/



And a previously reported eleven year old missing child has been found safe. Here's more of the details.


http://fox8.com/2018/04/09/cleveland-police-search-for-missing-11-year-old-boy/



Also, an Applebee's hostess is accused of stealing from the mother of a nine month old child during her birthday celebration.

http://fox8.com/2018/04/09/applebee...r-of-9-month-old-during-birthday-celebration/



And should smoking be banned in public parks? A new proposal is currently being discussed in Sandusky Ohio.


http://fox8.com/2018/04/09/ban-smoking-in-city-parks-proposal-being-discussed-in-sandusky/



Finally in today's news, here's how police managed to untangle a case of street justice. (I first reported this story a little while back)


http://fox8.com/2018/04/09/i-team-exclusive-video-how-police-untangled-a-case-of-street-justice/



That's all for today's news and I hope you all have a great rest of the day! :)
 
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