First of all you would have to know the man.You would have to know the circumstances regarding the situation.Why would a Christian couple get into that situation to begin with if they are both commited Christians?A Christian man and husband would go out for no reason and shoot a man in the back?Now you are getting into "Once Upon a Time".
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Is Divorce a Sin?
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Jasoncran has derailed a thread again.
jasonc
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if you live with them, do rapist just decide to do it? or there some warning signs before hand? remember that two sinners can be drunks and also heathens and criminals then one gets saved and them married and other remains in a criminal lifestyle and commits a heinous crime.
rapists and the causes I would have to read up on again. some of that is from them being a victim. its not like some would go and tell their loved ones, I was raped. they might hide it and the other never know. I came forward and told my wife all. better that she knew then to find out.
most rapists know their victims. the one whom raped my sister was drunk, and family friend. im not sure what made him do that, he had a gf at the time and daughter. two in fact and yet he raped a 12 year old? the other one whom did that to my sister was her bf.
LIke I said before a person really needs to know someone for quite sometime before they get married.In that amount of time there should be signs of that persons morals,values,character and intergriy.If you meet someone and decide to marry them 2 weeks later then that is risky.You would have to deal with the consequences.A person can know someone for awhile and let their heart rule their brain and that is not good.You have to be a good judge of character.
jasonc
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six months to a year. and not all of us are that wise. I marry my wife early because I thought I was going to war. again do you do background checks on suitors? if they don't tell you until you put on that ring and you state doesn't have the sexual predator laws as mine did about letting the public now. which I think that was changed a few years ago. I had a friend whom I confronted and said , I see you are on the sex offender list, what was the crime? she said, sex with a minor under that age of 18. she was a rapist.the web page didn't list the crime.
remember all manner of characters do attend church and get saved. some of them with sordid pasts. some of them might regress back to that past. getting to know them doesn't reduce the fact they may. it just makes you aware that have or haven't the propensity and go from there. the propensity to sin isn't negated by the blood, just covered, we still have the old man, we still have to fight that nature.
just as if I were to fall back into my old nature it would be a thief, occultist, fornicating, bisexual male.
I dated my second husband for 5 years.Yes,I said dated you know that ancient tradition of the man coming to the door and taking a woman on a date.There were signs that I ignored.I tried to break up with him a couple of times and could stand to see a grown can cry so I made a huge mistake in the end.
jasonc
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I know that, some do date for some times, its shorter as It was with me but others its years, again if,.. but reality is that many come to Christ and often fornicated and still think alone those lines and go find a man or woman and move to fast and then now are married and there they are.
All the things, all the stories, all the situations you present jasonc are why we should be teaching the Godly value of marriage... Thump it into the heads of the young... Teach them to look for Godly men and women...Marry with God first not lust...
IMO rape is adultery so kick the jerk to the curb
IMO rape is adultery so kick the jerk to the curb
jasonc
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lol.All the things, all the stories, all the situations you present jasonc are why we should be teaching the Godly value of marriage... Thump it into the heads of the young... Teach them to look for Godly men and women...Marry with God first not lust...
IMO rape is adultery so kick the jerk to the curb
Definately rape is adultery.But some women would wait for them.Would God kick him to the curb?All the things, all the stories, all the situations you present jasonc are why we should be teaching the Godly value of marriage... Thump it into the heads of the young... Teach them to look for Godly men and women...Marry with God first not lust...
IMO rape is adultery so kick the jerk to the curb
Deborah13
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jasonc
The psychology of the married serious abuser is pretty much the same as those who kidnap their victims. They torture and rape them to satisfy their sexual propensities.
It's all the better for them if the spouse is a Christian because they know that the spouse will do anything to make the marriage work. They can get away with their behaviors for many years. The Christian spouse is more trapped then the kidnapped one because the kidnapped one wants to get away and will if the opportunity arises.
The psychology of the married serious abuser is pretty much the same as those who kidnap their victims. They torture and rape them to satisfy their sexual propensities.
It's all the better for them if the spouse is a Christian because they know that the spouse will do anything to make the marriage work. They can get away with their behaviors for many years. The Christian spouse is more trapped then the kidnapped one because the kidnapped one wants to get away and will if the opportunity arises.
YUP minis this major part They torture and rape them to satisfy their sexual propensities. i have lived this for 50 years.
jasonc
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we would go off topic into that. I do disagree with that. case in point this case.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/elderly-woman-raped
You are right that would be a Biblical divorce but I am wondering what God would want.Forgivness or boot his behind out on the street.I think alot of factors would have to come into it.Well Kathi i am not God
Deborah13
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Not one of these cases is like what I pointed to.
We were talking about divorce and abuse came into that topic as should it be a reason for divorce. Most people who talk about physical spousal abuse don't really know the what that can and often does entail.
Definately.It is dangerous to marry someone who is not a Christian if you are.I have seen it done and it usually ends up in a disaster.Although I have seen the one unbelieving spouse come to Christ but not always.You never should go into a relationship or marriage thinking you are going to change someone.It rarely happens.
jasonc
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and there are married men whom did that? I know a man who was charged with child porn(possession of videos) and caught by his wife and she turned him in and divorced him. I don't know if he did time or not. if he did it wasn't long because I saw him a year later.
im versed into that. but my disagreement is not with the control issue. but rather that you implied all rapists simply rape because of sex. not so.
jasonc
Member
i should delinate rape.
1) this coercion of sex by force, manipulation and also by nonconsent. consent as defined by sobriety, age and lucidity, and permission. a married man may rape his wife.
in my town there is a mother charged and convicted for 30 years of the crime of sex with a 16 year old boy. she fled to Canada and will not face deportation. Canada is giving her asylum.
1) this coercion of sex by force, manipulation and also by nonconsent. consent as defined by sobriety, age and lucidity, and permission. a married man may rape his wife.
in my town there is a mother charged and convicted for 30 years of the crime of sex with a 16 year old boy. she fled to Canada and will not face deportation. Canada is giving her asylum.