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And then one day they no longer believe that Jesus is the Son of God and that He died for their sins and that He was resurrected from death.
I don't know who 'they' are, is the problem.

John 16:13-14 (LEB) But when he—the Spirit of truth—comes, he will guide you into all the truth. For he will not speak from himself, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will proclaim to you the things to come. He will glorify me, because he will take from what is mine and will proclaim it to you.

If the Holy Spirit is doing what Jesus said He would do for them, then 'they' who haved believed in Him [that is His being Christ (The Messiah, The Son of God and The Son of Man) yet died, was buried and raised] are being lead into all truth, not away from all truth.
John 16:27, 31, 33 (LEB) For the Father himself loves you, because you have loved me and have believed that I came from God.

Speaking of past/present/future:
The Father loves you (actively and presently) because you what???

Because you loved Christ and believed Him!
And yes, "have loved me" and "have believed" are perfectly tensed.
 
It is also interesting to note that those who twist and change the words of this prophecy, so that the meaning is diluted and changed to mean something else, are put in the same category as Christians who are liars.
It is interesting to note that you hear Rev 3:5 as a "warning" when the only "warning" mentioned in Revelation is to not add to the prophecy if Revelation.

Revelation 22:18 (LEB) I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues written in this book.
 
Those who are written in the book of Life; have eternal life.
Oh, I see. You think when Jesus said; "I will never erase his name from the book of ____ life"
He meant to say; 'I will never erase his name from the book of eternal life'.

Interesting.
 
Do you believe a person who is "in" the book of Life, then who's name is blotted out of the book of Life, or who is "taken away" from the book of Life, still somehow "has eternal life?
I believe all people that have conquered death by believing in Him have been given eternal life and will not die (be blotted out of the book of life) ever! You have to believe that, if you believe what Jesus says.
 
Oh, I see. You think when Jesus said; "I will never erase his name from the book of ____ life"
He meant to say; 'I will never erase his name from the book of eternal life'.

Interesting.


Yes, it is interesting that you would attempt to corrupt God's word, by "clouding" what the book of Life is.

It's not surprising though, since you have been "marked" as one who redefines the meaning of words and phrases in the scriptures.

Changing "the faith" in Jesus Christ, to "faith" in what God created, to avoid the plain meaning of the warning from the Holy Spirit.

Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, 3 forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; 5 for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
1 Timothy 4:1-5


18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. Revelation 22:18-19


The Book of Life is just that: The Book of eternal Life, as opposed to those who will suffer the second death, which is being cast into the lake of fire.


I delight in these things, because they stir up the fear of the Lord within me, which is a fountain of life.

The fear of the Lord, dwells within Me, and is an aspect of the Lord Jesus Christ.


The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life, to turn one away from the snares of death. Proverbs 14:27

and again


There shall come forth a Rod from the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots.
The Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon Him,
The Spirit of wisdom and understanding,
The Spirit of counsel and might,
The Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord.

His delight is in the fear of the Lord...
Isaiah 11:1-3



JLB
 
I believe all people that have conquered death by believing in Him have been given eternal life and will not die (be blotted out of the book of life) ever! You have to believe that, if you believe what Jesus says.


I believe that "if" people continue to believe, and continue in the faith, in the face of persecution and death, which is "testing", to the end of their life, [until death] then in the end, they will have eternal life.

10 Do not fear any of those things which you are about to suffer. Indeed, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and you will have tribulation ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.11 “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes shall not be hurt by the second death.”’ Revelation 2:10-11


and again

9 “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. 10 And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. 11 Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. 12 And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But he who endures to the end shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come. Matthew 24:9-13



JLB
 
Smaller,
§Saying my reading comprehension is off is a bit insulting, especially when directed at me. I happen to be extremely well-versed in the English language.

Scripture "always" reflects what is in our own hearts. Heb. 4:12.

In reflections we are all proven to have faults. I don't exempt myself either.
Believers will be judged by Jesus on their good works and go to eternal life.
Those who do not do good works will go to eternal punishment.
Mathew 25:46

We "all" have already been judged as 'sinners.' Romans 3:9, Gal. 3:22 etc.

The unfortunate part of discussions of judgment and sin among believers is an utter LACK of insight to the facts of scripture, that "SIN" is demonic. 1 John 3:8, Mark 4:15, 2 Cor. 12:7, etc.

But nary a reader can bring the "other party" to sin into judgment and instead land only on mankind. It's an unfortunate side effect of the REALITY of the "other parties."
So I'm not really worried if I'm first on line or not - it makes no difference.

According to who? Peter set the standard, that judgment begins with US. The fruitless quest to lay adverse judgment upon others is a distraction and a side show to the reality that JUDGMENT FALLS FIRST upon BELIEVERS.

Paul very much anticipated ditching his VILE BODY: Phil. 3:21
Paul very much anticipated being rid of indwelling sin and evil present with him. Romans 7:17-21.
Paul very much anticipated NOT having to deal with his own flesh which was contrary to and against the Spirit. Gal. 5:17.

That is the Christian Quest. And it begins with JUDGMENT.
What makes the difference is following Jesus' lead and trusting in Him since we are all sinners.

Following Jesus to what end and goal? Lip service? Positive affirmations only?

The world has issues. God Himself has promised to CHANGE IT and US. Romans 8:18-32
Your reply did not directly address my statement to you.
No one here is condemning anyone.

Let's not kid ourselves. Believers reek adverse judgments to one another. It's set in stone in most sects. It's so vile we're not even allowed to discuss it here for the most part.
 
Scripture "always" reflects what is in our own hearts. Heb. 4:12.

In reflections we are all proven to have faults. I don't exempt myself either.


We "all" have already been judged as 'sinners.' Romans 3:9, Gal. 3:22 etc.

The unfortunate part of discussions of judgment and sin among believers is an utter LACK of insight to the facts of scripture, that "SIN" is demonic. 1 John 3:8, Mark 4:15, 2 Cor. 12:7, etc.

But nary a reader can bring the "other party" to sin into judgment and instead land only on mankind. It's an unfortunate side effect of the REALITY of the "other parties."


According to who? Peter set the standard, that judgment begins with US. The fruitless quest to lay adverse judgment upon others is a distraction and a side show to the reality that JUDGMENT FALLS FIRST upon BELIEVERS.

Paul very much anticipated ditching his VILE BODY: Phil. 3:21
Paul very much anticipated being rid of indwelling sin and evil present with him. Romans 7:17-21.
Paul very much anticipated NOT having to deal with his own flesh which was contrary to and against the Spirit. Gal. 5:17.

That is the Christian Quest. And it begins with JUDGMENT.


Following Jesus to what end and goal? Lip service? Positive affirmations only?

The world has issues. God Himself has promised to CHANGE IT and US. Romans 8:18-32


Let's not kid ourselves. Believers reek adverse judgments to one another. It's set in stone in most sects. It's so vile we're not even allowed to discuss it here for the most part.


Please paste the post whereby one believer "Judged" another believer.


Posting what the bible teaches us is not "judging", but simply proclaiming the truth.

First to ourself, then to the others.


If you feel convicted, you might want to check your own heart.


Please paste the post whereby one believer "Judged" another believer.



JLB
 
Jesus taught perfect doctrine.

He taught His disciples perfect doctrine.

It's recorded for us in the New testament.

True! And, in those facts we are taught that we have FAULTS. WE. Romans 3:9, Romans 7:17-21, 2 Cor. 12:7.

People who direct adverse judgments away from our own sorry hides are wasting their time.

This is why those who teach "false doctrine" are condemned, because they lead the innocent into error, which is putting a stumbling block, before the babes in Christ.

ALL SIN and EVIL in whomever it is found is already judged and condemned. And ALL are in that seat.

Believers just LOVE to spread judgment unto others. But when that scriptural medicine gets directed to themselves they cry like little babies and run away from properly directing judgment to themselves as fast as they can possibly run.

1 Peter 4:17

For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

Micah 3:
5 Thus saith the Lord concerning the prophets that make my people err, that bite with their teeth, and cry, Peace; and he that putteth not into their mouths, they even prepare war against him.

6 Therefore night shall be unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you, that ye shall not divine; and the sun shall go down over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them.

7 Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God.

8 But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the Lord, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin.
9 Hear this, I pray you, ye heads of the house of Jacob, and princes of the house of Israel, that abhor judgment, and pervert all equity.

10 They build up Zion with blood, and Jerusalem with iniquity.

11 The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money: yet will they lean upon the Lord, and say, Is not the Lord among us? none evil can come upon us.

12 Therefore shall Zion for your sake be plowed as a field, and Jerusalem shall become heaps, and the mountain of the house as the high places of the forest.

Here is the mouth of TRUTH:

Romans 7:21
I find then a law, that, when I would do good,
evil is present with me.


Take that fact into your own temple and seek HIS JUDGMENT.
 
Please paste the post whereby one believer "Judged" another believer.

Every time you raise up a threat to burn other believers alive in fire forever for not believing like you that is casting believers aside like so much fire wood.

Try building up, the other direction. And use judgment properly, as it is meant to be deployed, AGAINST OUR OWN SIN AND EVIL PRESENT.

Where is your FERVOR for that? Non-existing I might observe.

This is what we wait for, right here:

Galatians 1:4
Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:

That evil is sitting smack dab in the midst of us, in our own hearts. Romans 7:21
 
Every time you raise up a threat to burn other believers alive in fire forever for not believing like you that is casting believers aside like so much fire wood.

Try building up, the other direction. And use judgment properly, as it is meant to be deployed, AGAINST OUR OWN SIN AND EVIL PRESENT.

Where is your FERVOR for that? Non-existing I might observe.

This is what we wait for, right here:

Galatians 1:4
Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:

That evil is sitting smack dab in the midst of us, in our own hearts. Romans 7:21


Please stop lying about me, as I have never "raised a threat" to burn other believers in the fires of hell.


You are marked as one who misquotes, and misrepresents others, as well as the word of God.




JLB
 
True! And, in those facts we are taught that we have FAULTS. WE. Romans 3:9, Romans 7:17-21, 2 Cor. 12:7.

People who direct adverse judgments away from our own sorry hides are wasting their time.



ALL SIN and EVIL in whomever it is found is already judged and condemned. And ALL are in that seat.

Believers just LOVE to spread judgment unto others. But when that scriptural medicine gets directed to themselves they cry like little babies and run away from properly directing judgment to themselves as fast as they can possibly run.

1 Peter 4:17

For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

Micah 3:
5 Thus saith the Lord concerning the prophets that make my people err, that bite with their teeth, and cry, Peace; and he that putteth not into their mouths, they even prepare war against him.

6 Therefore night shall be unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you, that ye shall not divine; and the sun shall go down over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them.

7 Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God.

8 But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the Lord, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin.
9 Hear this, I pray you, ye heads of the house of Jacob, and princes of the house of Israel, that abhor judgment, and pervert all equity.

10 They build up Zion with blood, and Jerusalem with iniquity.

11 The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money: yet will they lean upon the Lord, and say, Is not the Lord among us? none evil can come upon us.

12 Therefore shall Zion for your sake be plowed as a field, and Jerusalem shall become heaps, and the mountain of the house as the high places of the forest.

Here is the mouth of TRUTH:

Romans 7:21
I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

Take that fact into your own temple and seek HIS JUDGMENT.


Post the quotes from me or others whereby we have Judged other believers.


JLB
 
Post the quotes from me or others whereby we have Judged other believers.
JLB

Every time you sweep and take salvation away as a "possibility for BELIEVERS," which is the basis of this thread.

And that is exactly what your personal decipher has been here as long as I remember.

And, hand in hand with that is blatant and outright resistance to adverse scriptural judgment when it's turned in your direction.

Very typical amongst this crowd:

Luke 18:
11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
 
Every time you sweep and take salvation away as a "possibility for BELIEVERS," which is the basis of this thread.


So I'm "sweeping and taking away" Salvation, by posting what the scriptures say?

You sir are a "LIAR"!!!

Your doctrine is the doctrine of demons, which is designed to cause some to depart from the faith.

Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron... 1 Timothy 4:1-2




JLB
 
Every time you sweep and take salvation away as a "possibility for BELIEVERS," which is the basis of this thread.

And that is exactly what your personal decipher has been here as long as I remember.

And, hand in hand with that is blatant and outright resistance to adverse scriptural judgment when it's turned in your direction.

Very typical amongst this crowd:

Luke 18:
11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
Excuse me Smaller...

WHO is doing the judging??

It seems to me that it is YOU who are judging.
No one can take anyone's salvation away. The person gets to do that all by themselves by not reading and understanding the very simple word of God.

Some here understand scripture.
Some here refuse to because they like their own version better.

Study church history. YOU didn't invent the church. YOU, and those in YOUR crowd, didn't invent what Jesus meant.
JESUS said what he meant to say. He said if God did not spare Israel, how do we think He will spare us if we do not adhere to biblical teachings. The bible teaches that we are to live a certain way.

Jesus didn't waste His breath saying things He didn't mean. Those closest to Him were VERY WORRIED about loosing their salvation and preached continuance, not falling away, holding onto.

I'm going to paste the Didache here.
Read it and see if it sounds to you like one could never lose their salvation.
It was probably written in the late 90's - Do you trust them more, or YOUR OWN IDEAS???

Wondering
 
The Didache
The teachings of the 12 Apostles
Date of writing: Approx 96 AD


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The Lord's teaching to the heathen by the Twelve Apostles.

I
1. There are two Ways, one of Life and one of Death, and there is a great difference between the two Ways.
2. The way of life is this:" First, you shalt love the God who made thee, secondly, thy neighbor as thyself; and whatsoever thou wouldst not have done to thyself, do not thou to another."
3. Now, the teaching of these words is this: "Bless those that curse you, and pray for your enemies, and fast for those that persecute you. For what credit is it to you if you love those that love you? Do not even the heathen do the same?" But, for your part, "love those that hate you," and you will have no enemy.
4. "Abstain from carnal" and bodily "lusts." "If any man smite thee on the right cheek, turn to him the other cheek also," and thou wilt be perfect. "If any man impress thee to go with him one mile, go with him two. If any man take thy coat, give him thy shirt also. If any man will take from thee what is thine, refuse it not," not even if thou canst.
5. Give to everyone that asks thee, and do not refuse, for the Father's will is that we give to all from the gifts we have received. Blessed is he that gives according to the mandate; for he is innocent; but he who receives it without need shall be tried as to why he took and for what, and being in prison he shall be examined as to his deeds, and "he shall not come out thence until he pay the last farthing."
6. But concerning this it was also said, "Let thine alms sweat into thine hands until thou knowest to whom thou art giving."


II
1. But the second commandment of the teaching is this:
2. "Thou shalt do no murder; thou shalt not commit adultery"; thou shalt not commit sodomy; thou shalt not commit fornication; thou shalt not steal; thou shalt not use magic; thou shalt not use philtres; thou shalt not procure abortion, nor commit infanticide; "thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's goods";
3. Thou shalt not commit perjury, "thou shall not bear false witness"; thou shalt not speak evil; thou shalt not bear malice.
4. Thou shalt not be double-minded nor double-tongued, for to be double-tongued is the snare of death.
5. Thy speech shall not be false nor vain, but completed in action.
6. Thou shalt not be covetous nor extortionate, nor a hypocrite, nor malignant, nor proud, thou shalt make no evil plan against thy neighbor.
7. Thou shalt hate no man; but some thou shalt reprove, and for some shalt thou pray, and some thou shalt love more then thine own life.
III
1. My child, flee from every evil man and from all like him.
2. Be not proud, for pride leads to murder, nor jealous, nor contentious, nor passionate, for from all these murders are engendered.
3. My child, be not lustful, for lust leads to fornication, nor a speaker of base words, nor a lifter up of the eyes, for from all these is adultery engendered.
4. My child, regard not omens, for this leads to idolatry; neither be an enchanter, nor an astrologer, nor a magician, neither wish to see these things, for from them all is idolatry engendered.
5. My child, be not a liar, for lying leads to theft, nor a lover of money, nor vain-glorious, for from all these things are thefts engendered.
6. My child, be not a grumbler, for this leads to blasphemy, nor stubborn, nor a thinker of evil, for from all these are blasphemies engendered.
7. But be thou "meek, for the meek shall inherit the earth;"
8. Be thou long-suffering, and merciful and guileless, and quiet, and good, and ever fearing the words which thou hast heard.
9. Thou shalt not exalt thyself, nor let thy soul be presumptuous. Thy soul shall not consort with the lofty, but thou shalt walk with righteous and humble men.
10. Receive the accidents that befall to thee as good, knowing that nothing happens without God.
IV
1. My child, thou shalt remember, day and night, him who speaks the word of God to thee, and thou shalt honor him as the Lord, for where the Lord's nature is spoken of, there is he present.
2. And thou shalt seek daily the presence of the saints, that thou mayest find rest in their words.
3. Thou shalt not desire a schism, but shalt reconcile those that strive. Thou shalt give righteous judgement; thou shalt favor no mans person in reproving transgression.
4. Thou shalt not be of two minds whether it shall be or not.
5. Be not one who stretches out his hands to receive, but shuts them when it comes to giving.
6. Of whatsoever thou hast gained by thy hands thou shalt give a ransom for thy sins.
7. Thou shalt not hesitate to give, nor shalt thou grumble when thou givest, for thou shalt know who is the good Paymaster of the reward.
8. Thou shalt not turn away the needy, but shalt share everything with thy brother, and shalt not say it is thine own, for if you are sharers in the imperishable, how much more in the things which perish?
9. Thou shalt not withhold thine hand from thy son or from thy daughter, but thou shalt teach them the fear of God from their youth up.
10. Thou shalt not command in thy bitterness thy slave or thine handmaid, who hope in the same God, lest they cease to fear the God who is over you both; for he comes not to call men with respect of persons, but those whom the Spirit has prepared.
11. But do you who are slaves be subject to your master, as to God's representative, in reverence and fear.
12. Thou shalt hate all hypocrisy, and everything that is not pleasing to the Lord.
13. Thou shalt not forsake the commandments of the Lord, but thou shalt keep what thou didst receive, "Adding nothing to it and taking nothing away."
14. In the congregation thou shalt confess thy transgressions, and thou shalt not betake thyself to prayer with an evil conscience. This is the way of life.
V
1. But the Way of Death is this: First of all, it is wicked and full of cursing, murders, adulteries, lusts, fornications, thefts, idolatries, witchcrafts, charms, robberies, false witness, hypocrisies, a double heart, fraud, pride, malice, stubbornness, covetousness, foul speech, jealousy, impudence, haughtiness, boastfulness.
2. Persecutors of the good, haters of truth, lovers of lies, knowing not the reward of righteousness, not cleaving to the good nor to righteous judgment, spending wakeful nights not for good but for wickedness, from whom meekness and patience is far, lovers of vanity, following after reward, unmerciful to the poor, not working for him who is oppressed with toil, without knowledge of him who made them, murderers of children, corrupters of God's creatures, turning away the needy, oppressing the distressed, advocates of the rich, unjust judges of the poor, altogether sinful; may ye be delivered, my children, from all these.

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VI
1. See "that no one make thee to err" from this Way of the teaching, for he teaches thee without God.
2. For if thou canst bear the whole yoke of the Lord, thou wilt be perfect, but if thou canst not, do what thou canst.
3. And concerning food, bear what thou canst, but keep strictly from that which is offered to idols, for it is the worship of dead gods.
VII
1. Concerning baptism, baptise thus: Having first rehearsed all these things, "baptise, in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost," in running water;
2. But if thou hast no running water, baptise in other water, and if thou canst not in cold, then in warm.
3. But if thou hast neither, pour water three times on the head "in the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost."
4. And before the baptism let the baptiser and him who is to be baptised fast, and any others who are able. And thou shalt bid him who is to be baptised to fast one or two days before.
VIII
1. Let not your fasts be with the hypocrites, for they fast on Mondays and Thursdays, but do you fast on Wednesdays and Fridays.
2. And do not pray as the hypocrites, but as the Lord commanded in his Gospel, pray thus: "Our Father, who art in Heaven, hallowed be thy Name, thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, as in Heaven so also upon earth; give us today our daily bread, and forgive us our debt as we forgive our debtors, and lead us not into trial, but deliver us from the Evil One, for thine is the power and the glory for ever."
3. Pray thus three times a day.
IX
1. And concerning the Eucharist, hold Eucharist thus:
2. First concerning the Cup, "We give thanks to thee, our Father, for the Holy Vine of David thy child, which, thou didst make known to us through Jesus thy Child; to thee be glory for ever."
3. And concerning the broken Bread: "We give thee thanks, our Father, for the life and knowledge which thou didst make known to us through Jesus thy Child. To thee be glory for ever.
4. As this broken bread was scattered upon the mountains, but was brought together and became one, so let thy Church be gathered together from the ends of the earth into thy kingdom, for thine is the glory and the power through Jesus Christ for ever."
5. But let none eat or drink of your Eucharist except those who have been baptised in the Lord's Name. For concerning this also did the Lord say, "Give not that which is holy to the dogs."
X
1. But after you are satisfied with food, thus give thanks:
2. "We give thanks to thee, O Holy Father, for thy Holy Name which thou didst make to tabernacle in out hearts, and for the knowledge and faith and immortality which thou didst make known to us through Jesus thy Child. To thee be glory for ever.
3. Thou, Lord Almighty, didst create all things for thy Name's sake, and didst give food and drink to men for their enjoyment, that they might give thanks to thee, but us hast thou blessed with spiritual food and drink and eternal light through thy Child.
4. Above all we give thanks to thee for that thou art mighty. To thee be glory for ever.
5. Remember, Lord, thy Church, to deliver it from all evil and to make it perfect in thy love, and gather it together in its holiness from the four winds to thy kingdom which thou hast prepared for it. For thine is the power and the glory for ever.
6. Let grace come and let this world pass away. Hosannah to the God of David. If any man be holy, let him come! if any man be not, let him repent: Maranatha ("Our Lord! Come!"), Amen."
7. But suffer the prophets to hold Eucharist as they will.
XI
1. Whosoever then comes and teaches you all these things aforesaid, receive him.
2. But if the teacher himself be perverted and teach another doctrine to destroy these things, do not listen to him, but if his teaching be for the increase of righteousness and knowledge of the Lord, receive him as the Lord.
3. And concerning the Apostles and Prophets, act thus according to the ordinance of the Gospel.
4. Let every Apostle who comes to you be received as the Lord,
5. But let him not stay more than one day, or if need be a second as well; but if he stay three days, he is a false prophet.
6. And when an Apostle goes forth let him accept nothing but bread till he reach his night's lodging; but if he ask for money, he is a false prophet.
7. Do not test or examine any prophet who is speaking in a spirit, "for every sin shall be forgiven, but this sin shall not be forgiven."
8. But not everyone who speaks in a spirit is a prophet, except he have the behaviour of the Lord. From his behaviour, then, the false prophet and the true prophet shall be known.
9. And no prophet who orders a meal in a spirit shall eat of it: otherwise he is a false prophet.
10. And every prophet who teaches truth, if he do not what he teaches, is a false prophet.
11. But no prophet who has been tried and is genuine, though he enact a worldly mystery of the Church, if he teach not others to do what he does himself, shall be judged by you: for he has his judgment with God, for so also did the prophets of old.
12. But whosoever shall say in a spirit "Give me money, or something else," you shall not listen to him; but if he tell you to give on behalf of others in want, let none judge him.
XII
1. Let everyone who "comes in the Name of the Lord" be received; but when you have tested him you shall know him, for you shall have understanding of true and false.
2. If he who comes is a traveller, help him as much as you can, but he shall not remain with you more than two days, or, if need be, three.
3. And if he wishes to settle among you and has a craft, let him work for his bread.
4. But if he has no craft provide for him according to your understanding, so that no man shall live among you in idleness because he is a Christian.
5. But if he will not do so, he is making traffic of Christ; beware of such.
XIII
1. But every true prophet who wishes to settle among you is "worthy of his food."
2. Likewise a true teacher is himself worthy, like the workman, of his food.
3. Therefore thou shalt take the firstfruit of the produce of the winepress and of the threshingfloor and of oxen and sheep, and shalt give them as the firstfruits to the prophets, for they are your high priests.
4. But if you have not a prophet, give to the poor.
5. If thou makest bread, take the firstfruits, and give it according to the commandment.
6. Likewise when thou openest a jar of wine or oil, give the firstfruits to the prophets.
7. Of money also and clothes, and of all your possessions, take the firstfruits, as it seem best to you, and give according to the commandment.
XIV
1. On the Lord's Day of the Lord come together, break bread and hold Eucharist, after confessing your transgressions that your offering may be pure;
2. But let none who has a quarrel with his fellow join in your meeting until they be reconciled, that your sacrifice be not defiled.
3. For this is that which was spoken by the Lord, "In every place and time offer me a pure sacrifice, for I am a great king," saith the Lord, "and my name is wonderful among the heathen."
XV
1. Appoint therefore for yourselves bishops and deacons worthy of the Lord, meek men, and not lovers of money, and truthful and approved, for they also minister to you the ministry of the prophets and teachers.
2. Therefore do not despise them, for they are your honourable men together with the prophets and teachers.
3. And reprove one another not in wrath but in peace as you find in the Gospel, and let none speak with any who has done wrong to his neighbour, nor let him hear a word from you until he repents.
4. But your prayers and alms and all your acts perform as ye find in the Gospel of our Lord.
XVI
1. "Watch" over your life "let your lamps" be not quenched "and your loins" be not ungirded, but be "ready," for ye know not "the hour in which our Lord cometh."
2. But be frequently gathered together seeking the things which are profitable for your souls, for the whole time of your faith shall not profit you except ye be found perfect at the last time;
3. For in the last days the false prophets and the corruptors shall be multiplied, and the sheep shall be turned into wolves, and love shall change to hate;
4. For as lawlessness increaseth they shall hate one another and persecute and betray, and then shall appear the deceiver of the world as a Son of God, and shall do signs and wonders and the earth shall be given over into his hands and he shall commit iniquities which have never been since the world began.
5. Then shall the creation of mankind come to the fiery trial and "many shall be offended" and be lost, but "they who endure" in their faith "shall be saved" by the curse itself.
6. And "then shall appear the signs" of the truth. First the sign spread out in Heaven, then the sign of the sound of the trumpet, and thirdly the resurrection of the dead:
7. But not of all the dead, but as it was said, "The Lord shall come and all his saints with him."
8. Then shall the world "see the Lord coming on the clouds of Heaven."
 
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