First of all, I believe not accepting Christ as your savior is the only sin not forgiven. Israel saw the miracles, heard the living water (the word of God) preached to them, and said that what was preached, and what they saw was of Beelzebub, Matthew 12:24; they didn't drink, and that was blasphemy. Needless to say they didn't accept Jesus as their Messiah, and will have eternity to regret it.
Below we see the history of King Saul's taking of his own life, and these things were given us as examples to show us what God does in our lives also.
1 Samuel chapter 28. Saul is at war with the Philistines and God will not answer his prayer. He seeks a witch at En-dor in verse 7 & 11 to bring up the now deceased Samuel from the dead to answer his questions since God will not. In verse 19 Samuel tells Saul that tomorrow he and his sons will be with him. (In Abraham's bosom.)
Samuel was deceased and was in Abraham's bosom described in Luke chapter 16 where he states Saul will join him. In Hebrews 11:32 we see Samuel described as one of the righteous of old, and so we must realize that Saul was also there also. Abraham's bosom was the resting place of the righteous dead, or also known as paradise in the center of the earth until Jesus died and took paradise to heaven. Now if we die as believers our spirit goes immediately to heaven to be with the Lord. The spirits of the unrighteous dead went to lower hell, and still do until the day of judgment.
Saul fell on his own sword to kill himself in 1 Chronicles 10:4. Then said Saul to his armourbearer, Draw thy sword, and thrust me through therewith; lest these uncircumcised come and abuse me. But his armourbearer would not; for he was sore afraid. So Saul took a sword, and fell upon it. 5 And when his armourbearer saw that Saul was dead, he fell likewise on the sword, and died. 6 So Saul died, and his three sons, and all his house died together.
Our salvation does not depend on what we do, but what God did and our accepting of the sacrifice He made for us. I've read many responses stating how certain things send us to hell, while others do not. One states that not repenting before we die condemns us, and some say that we can jump out of God's hand. If you haven't guessed, I believe in “Once Saved, Always Saved.” My faith is not based on "DO", but "DONE". Repentance or confession after we're saved brings us back into fellowship with God, and cleanses our conscience to continue our walk with Him. There are different rewards for us depending on what we allow God to accomplish in our lives, and greater punishment was promised those who committed certain sins such as murder, suicide, and homosexuality but they were not the worse; turning away from the message given such as those cities that didn't receive the disciples sent to them draws greater punishment than Sodom and Gomorra, and I imagine than all other sin.
Oh no some may say, king Saul disobeyed God and his kingdom was taken away and given to David. That is true, but here is what David said concerning Saul when after being pursued, then have opportunity to kill him; 1 Samuel 24:10 said, Behold, this day thine eyes have seen how that the LORD had delivered thee to day into mine hand in the cave: and some bade me kill thee: but mine eye spared thee; and I said, I will not put forth mine hand against my lord; for he is the LORD'S anointed, and this was after his kingdom was given to David.
When Jesus sent the twelve out doing miracles and preaching He said in Mark 6:11, And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom in the day of judgment, than for that city. Certain sin will be judged more severely than other sin at the great white throne Judgment for the unbeliever, but as God's anointed Jesus took our judgment for us. We as believers do miss the opportunity to have God's best when separated by sin from fellowship with God much like the prodigal son in Luke 15:11-32.
Talking of heaven Revelation 21:27 says; and there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life. Revelation 22:15. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. This is talking about any that are not written in the Lamb's book of life. In Christ you are seen as the New Creation, you have His righteousness, and have been given eternal life; not conditional life.
Dear saints of God, believe what you will, but I have no doubt where Saul is because of what God had Samuel tell him.
Do notice the difference in the suicide of Judas and Saul. Saul was God's anointed and Judas was the son of perdition; John 17:12. None of them is lost, but the son of perdition (Judas); that the scripture might be fulfilled. That man of sin (The antichrist) will also be revealed, the son of perdition; a son of the lake of fire or given over to eternal misery in hell.
Depression from pain and suicidal thoughts are not uncommon among the elect.
Job 3:3 Let the day perish wherein I was born, and the night in which it was said, There is a man child conceived.
Jeremiah 20:14 Cursed be the day wherein I was born: let not the day wherein my mother bare me be blessed.
1 Kings 19:10 And he (Elijah) said, I have been very jealous for the LORD God of hosts: for the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away.
1 Samuel chapter 28. Saul is at war with the Philistines and God will not answer his prayer. He seeks a witch at En-dor in verse 7 & 11 to bring up the now deceased Samuel from the dead to answer his questions since God will not. In verse 19 Samuel tells Saul that tomorrow he and his sons will be with him. (In Abraham's bosom - the abode of the righteous dead before Christ died.) Saul committed suicide.
Below we see the history of King Saul's taking of his own life, and these things were given us as examples to show us what God does in our lives also.
1 Samuel chapter 28. Saul is at war with the Philistines and God will not answer his prayer. He seeks a witch at En-dor in verse 7 & 11 to bring up the now deceased Samuel from the dead to answer his questions since God will not. In verse 19 Samuel tells Saul that tomorrow he and his sons will be with him. (In Abraham's bosom.)
Samuel was deceased and was in Abraham's bosom described in Luke chapter 16 where he states Saul will join him. In Hebrews 11:32 we see Samuel described as one of the righteous of old, and so we must realize that Saul was also there also. Abraham's bosom was the resting place of the righteous dead, or also known as paradise in the center of the earth until Jesus died and took paradise to heaven. Now if we die as believers our spirit goes immediately to heaven to be with the Lord. The spirits of the unrighteous dead went to lower hell, and still do until the day of judgment.
Saul fell on his own sword to kill himself in 1 Chronicles 10:4. Then said Saul to his armourbearer, Draw thy sword, and thrust me through therewith; lest these uncircumcised come and abuse me. But his armourbearer would not; for he was sore afraid. So Saul took a sword, and fell upon it. 5 And when his armourbearer saw that Saul was dead, he fell likewise on the sword, and died. 6 So Saul died, and his three sons, and all his house died together.
Our salvation does not depend on what we do, but what God did and our accepting of the sacrifice He made for us. I've read many responses stating how certain things send us to hell, while others do not. One states that not repenting before we die condemns us, and some say that we can jump out of God's hand. If you haven't guessed, I believe in “Once Saved, Always Saved.” My faith is not based on "DO", but "DONE". Repentance or confession after we're saved brings us back into fellowship with God, and cleanses our conscience to continue our walk with Him. There are different rewards for us depending on what we allow God to accomplish in our lives, and greater punishment was promised those who committed certain sins such as murder, suicide, and homosexuality but they were not the worse; turning away from the message given such as those cities that didn't receive the disciples sent to them draws greater punishment than Sodom and Gomorra, and I imagine than all other sin.
Oh no some may say, king Saul disobeyed God and his kingdom was taken away and given to David. That is true, but here is what David said concerning Saul when after being pursued, then have opportunity to kill him; 1 Samuel 24:10 said, Behold, this day thine eyes have seen how that the LORD had delivered thee to day into mine hand in the cave: and some bade me kill thee: but mine eye spared thee; and I said, I will not put forth mine hand against my lord; for he is the LORD'S anointed, and this was after his kingdom was given to David.
When Jesus sent the twelve out doing miracles and preaching He said in Mark 6:11, And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom in the day of judgment, than for that city. Certain sin will be judged more severely than other sin at the great white throne Judgment for the unbeliever, but as God's anointed Jesus took our judgment for us. We as believers do miss the opportunity to have God's best when separated by sin from fellowship with God much like the prodigal son in Luke 15:11-32.
Talking of heaven Revelation 21:27 says; and there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life. Revelation 22:15. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. This is talking about any that are not written in the Lamb's book of life. In Christ you are seen as the New Creation, you have His righteousness, and have been given eternal life; not conditional life.
Dear saints of God, believe what you will, but I have no doubt where Saul is because of what God had Samuel tell him.
Do notice the difference in the suicide of Judas and Saul. Saul was God's anointed and Judas was the son of perdition; John 17:12. None of them is lost, but the son of perdition (Judas); that the scripture might be fulfilled. That man of sin (The antichrist) will also be revealed, the son of perdition; a son of the lake of fire or given over to eternal misery in hell.
Depression from pain and suicidal thoughts are not uncommon among the elect.
Job 3:3 Let the day perish wherein I was born, and the night in which it was said, There is a man child conceived.
Jeremiah 20:14 Cursed be the day wherein I was born: let not the day wherein my mother bare me be blessed.
1 Kings 19:10 And he (Elijah) said, I have been very jealous for the LORD God of hosts: for the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away.
1 Samuel chapter 28. Saul is at war with the Philistines and God will not answer his prayer. He seeks a witch at En-dor in verse 7 & 11 to bring up the now deceased Samuel from the dead to answer his questions since God will not. In verse 19 Samuel tells Saul that tomorrow he and his sons will be with him. (In Abraham's bosom - the abode of the righteous dead before Christ died.) Saul committed suicide.
