JLB said:
43 "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' = Law of Moses
JLB said:
StoveBolts said:
Jesus is not giving a new commandment, he is giving the proper interpretation of a passage in Torah.
Ok, could you please list the chapter and verse of the passage in the Torah that Jesus is giving the proper interpretation of.
I hope by the above quotes that the discussion becomes clear. You stated that the Law of Moses aka Torah, which represents the first five books of the Bible (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy) has within it instructions to love your neighbor and hate your enemy. While we could find much to support the "Love you neighbor", you would be hard pressed to find "hate your enemy" clearly printed out in any portion of the Torah. Now then, you maintain that "Hate your enemy" is part of the "Law of Moses". As such, you should be able to produce "Chapter and Verse". As such, the burdon of proof is on you. However, it appears you cannot find such a verse... so why do you say it is part of the Law?
This brings us to the "You have heard it said" and it seems your having a hard time grasping this part. I will maintain that within Torah, there is discussion that leads to Jesus claim to which Jesus says, "You have heard it said". Is Jesus lying to the crowd? Is he making this up? Who is it that says you must hate your enemy and what is their basis?
The basis is found in a discussion of Leviticus 19:18 by the school of Shammia and can also be found within the dead sea scrolls. Thus, Jesus gives us the correct interpretation of Levitucus 19:18 which follows suit with the school of Hillel.
This is history JLB and it is well documented. So unless you agree with the teachings of Shammia on Leviticus 19:18, you really have no basis to say that "Hate your enemy" is part of the Law of Moses.
I do hope that you will read over this post a few times so that you might digest what I am saying.
As far as the Law, let us be open to what Scripture has to say:
Jeremiah 31:33“This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time,†declares the Lord. “I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.
Romans 2:12 All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. 13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. 14 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.)
Romans 3:27 Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. Because of what law? The law that requires works? No, because of the law that requires faith. 28 For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law. 29 Or is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, 30 since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. 31 Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.
So we see that through faith, the Law is upheld.
Please excuse me now from this discussion. I am out of town and have minimal internet access.