The Mystery of Lawlessness.

[Chopper]

We are built upon the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets, Jesus Christ being the Chief Cornerstone.


JLB

Well, I guess the Christ can't be the foundation if He's the Cornerstone.

 

[jasoncran]

the idea of the house is not as some think, in jewish thought. when noah believed he also taught his sons and wife and their wives the means of pleasing the lord. that is what "house" meant. its whom ever was from your loins, slaves and their kin and family.

 

[reba]

Yup family not a man made building...

 

[Chopper]

the idea of the house is not as some think, in jewish thought. when noah believed he also taught his sons and wife and their wives the means of pleasing the lord. that is what "house" meant. its whom ever was from your loins, slaves and their kin and family.

OK, that makes sense.

 

[jasoncran]

Well, I guess the Christ can't be the foundation if He's the Cornerstone.

you will find in the book of revalation that one cant do that.its a metaphor as well.

 

[reba]

The cornerstone (or foundation stone) concept is derived from the first stone set in the construction of a masonry foundation, important since all other stones will be set in reference to this stone, thus determining the position of the entire structure.

 

[Chopper]

Yup family not a man made building...

Good to hear from you Reba, Family, not a building, strange but true....Thank you.

 

[jasoncran]

the reason I believe that it works is that jews then and today are very communal, this is why they tend to like Marxism. the building of the temple took a lot of work. does it not with our families? we have people we go to help us be the godly parent, and also others we help.

 

[Chopper]

you will find in the book of revalation that one cant do that.its a metaphor as well.

OK, got it.

 

[jasoncran]

especially with the image of God on the throne and jesus as whatever metaphor he is shown as.

 

[Chopper]

The cornerstone (or foundation stone) concept is derived from the first stone set in the construction of a masonry foundation, important since all other stones will be set in reference to this stone, thus determining the position of the entire structure.

 

[reba]

You didn't really think the Carpenter went to build us a house?

Joh 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
Joh 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

 

[Chopper]

Christ is the Shepard
Christ is the Lamb
He is the Cornerstone
The lily of the Valley
The Bright and Morning Star
the Root
The Living Water
The Rock

ETC

In other words, He's everything good.

 

[reba]

chapter and verse for that corner stone is google and wikki

 

[jasoncran]

there is something in jewish thought about that cornerstone. I just cant remember it.

 

[Chopper]

You didn't really think the Carpenter went to build us a house?

Joh 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
Joh 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

Wow Reba, thank you, actually this is the first time I actually tied those verses into the new Jerusalem. Good one!

 

[Chopper]

there is something in jewish thought about that cornerstone. I just cant remember it.

I can wait.

 

[reba]

In other words, He's everything good.

And we can be

the city
His bride
His body
His disciples
the multitudes
The holy nation
the royal priesthood

 

[jasoncran]

I can wait.

its not an easy explanation. I do remember that sometimes jews cant take something literaly and go into some depths with that. that is why the parables have such simplicity and truth and are deep.

 

[jasoncran]

rashi gets it wrong.