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Can geothermal energy potential save us before it's too late-?

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Geothermal energy potential

There is one place we haven’t taped yet that could power our electrical need for all time to come. Below are the facts and now all we must do is find a way to tap this limitless source of energy. I hope some here find the time to explore this and add new ideas on it’s potential to power our never ending need for more and more energy.

The cold seawater is heated by hot magma and reemerges to form the vents. Seawater in hydrothermal vents may reach temperatures of over 700° Fahrenheit.
https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/vents.html

The deep ocean is made up of horizontal layers of equal density. Much of this deep ocean water is between 0-3 degrees Celsius (32-37.5 degrees Fahrenheit)! It's really, really cold down there! There is a neat program that is measuring the temperature and salinity of ocean surface waters around the world
https://www.windows2universe.org/earth/Water/temp.html

A hydrothermal vent 2,500 meters deep experiences 250 atmospheres, or 3,672.5 pounds per square inch.
https://divediscover.whoi.edu/hydrothermal-vents/vent-boiling-points/

There is seawater at temperatures over 700° Fahrenheit right next to seawater at 32-37.5 degrees Fahrenheit under a pressure of 3,672 pounds per square inch.

Clearly there is potential energy here to be tapped as well as mineral deposits that are rich in iron, copper, zinc, and other metals.

What are we waiting for, let’s tap this energy source which will power our energy needs for all time to come?
 

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Geothermal energy will not be for all time and this is why.

Rev 8:12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise. 13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!

During the first six trumpets, God’s wrath is poured out into the world as chastisements for disobedience, but also a warning that man needs to repent and turn back to God before the door of salvation is closed forever when Christ returns.

Hail and fire can be likened unto meteors that fall from the sky. A third of the trees and all the green grass are burned up which makes a third part of the world with a shortage of oxygen in the air that is created from the carbon dioxide from the trees and living plants. Seeing that this is Global the intense fire and smoke from all the trees and grass burning can travel for miles causing much more damage throughout the nations. The trees that produce various healthy foods for our wellbeing will become scarce. The green grasses that would probably include crops of wheat, barley, corn and so forth will be destroyed causing a shortage in food. The animals we depend on as a food source will also die as they are left without vegetation they need to live on.

This great mountain burning with fire could be another meteor or even a series of meteors sent down from heaven at one time, but on an extremely larger scale as the third part of the sea is destroyed along with sea life and the third part of the ships that sit in it. The third part of the sea turned to blood by reason of all the animal life that is killed and those men, women and children who are on these ships that are destroyed. Take into consideration the disease that would spread from all the rotted sea life that is rotting away washing up on the shore and the flesh of those who were burned along with the ships.

These ships will more than likely be types of fuel tankers, merchant, fishing and luxury cruises ships traveling the waters. With the third of these ships being destroyed means a third part of the world’s fuel and food supply would be destroyed. There is only one ocean, but divided by four regions as being the Pacific Ocean, Atlantic Ocean, Arctic Ocean, and the Indian Ocean. This would be like the four corners of the earth as being North, South, East and West. The only difference between the ocean and the sea is that the ocean is much larger and feeds into the 108 seas around the world that also flow into our lakes and streams that provide us with fresh drinking water and other sources of food.

With the third part of the sun, moon and stars being darkened this will affect mans source of electricity and heat that is vital to keep a certain degree of the earth warm, and generated power in homes, hospitals and manufacturing plants including nuclear reactors.

Agriculture and navigation would be hard pressed as it takes the solar power from the sun to run the solar cells that produces the energy needed to run farming machinery and trucks to take the produce to manufacturing plants where the produce is then distributed to market.

Vehicles such as cars, ambulances, planes, trains and the list goes on need an energy source from the sun in order to run their engines. The darkness of the third part of the day would be roughly around eight hours of daylight being lost and total darkness of night as the moon and stars are illuminated by the sun at night. A flashlight would be useless to see in the dark as it needs energy from the sun to run the battery that turns the light on.
 

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How is environmentalism gonna save the human race when God himself is gonna destroy the earth and recreate it?
 

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Then there is the regular problems of dealing with the hydrochloric acid that heating seawater creates.
Then there are the problems of working at the depths and pressure that this sort of thing exists at.
Live steam is very dangerous to begin with...then the added issues of pressure and depths under water...

This program smells just like "The Big Dig" in Boston.
Something that we need to avoid.
 

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Then there is the regular problems of dealing with the hydrochloric acid that heating seawater creates.
Then there are the problems of working at the depths and pressure that this sort of thing exists at.
Live steam is very dangerous to begin with...then the added issues of pressure and depths under water...

This program smells just like "The Big Dig" in Boston.
Something that we need to avoid.
I was going to go into how pipes need to be repaired, kinda hard at the depths.
 

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I was going to go into how pipes need to be repaired, kinda hard at the depths.
Especially if there is hydrochloric acid heated to 700° F....you ain't gonna have a pipe...
 

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How is environmentalism gonna save the human race when God himself is gonna destroy the earth and recreate it?
Try reading Revelation 11:18

It's saying something different than you are.
 

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Try reading Revelation 11:18

It's saying something different than you are.
We must not ignore that in peters epistle
Its says the earth and sun are destroyed,nor ignore to even create disney.Miami ,where I Iive,swamps were drained ,trees cuts,and species wipers out.100 years ago ,simply waking the coast line on,the shore ,one could be attacked by a bear,bobcat,panther and gator.

So we can't destroy what is natural to build.no,such thing as pollution free.
 

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The area where I attend church is on the higher point,the Spanish called it tortoise hills.as in logger head turtles my fil ate those ,which is illegal now .
 

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We must not ignore that in peters epistle
Its says the earth and sun are destroyed,nor ignore to even create disney.Miami ,where I Iive,swamps were drained ,trees cuts,and species wipers out.100 years ago ,simply waking the coast line on,the shore ,one could be attacked by a bear,bobcat,panther and gator.

So we can't destroy what is natural to build.no,such thing as pollution free.
Man is definitely supposed to subdue the Earth by gardening, farming, and building. We have a symbiotic relationship with the Earth.
Man with woman and mankind with Earth. We all need each other to live.
Of course that sometimes means draining swamps, pumping water for drinking and irrigation. That's much different than destroying it to where it kills everyone and everything...which is what Revelation 11:18 is saying.
 

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Man is definitely supposed to subdue the Earth by gardening, farming, and building. We have a symbiotic relationship with the Earth.
Man with woman and mankind with Earth. We all need each other to live.
Of course that sometimes means draining swamps, pumping water for drinking and irrigation. That's much different than destroying it to where it kills everyone and everything...which is what Revelation 11:18 is saying.
You might want to read what modern environmentalism is.man second and earth first.

Its pagan in origins . also in the clearing of swamps ,etc ,what i call artificial paradise was made .fake beauty .the fact is I could nearky drive a semi on the beach because the sand was compact enough to handle it .the reefs ,mostly gone now ,we're protecting the shore .we in florida were much like Australia .most lived on the coast ,center was inhabitable.

Symbiotic isnt quite the word I would choose.
 

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We honor God by honoring the things He gave us. He gave us 5 talents, and likewise He gave us the earth. We need to treat it well, so that Jesus comes back and says, "Good! Here's 5 more talents." Is man doing that? Nope. I don't want to have to say that we took His gift and smashed it, trashed it, and destroyed it. The simple, mere fact of mankind coming together and solving a common problem: the earth--instead of fighting each other is inline with Jesus' teachings.

If geothermal energy is your passion, then have at it. Personally I like wind's potential, because of all the energy stored in a hurricane--especially offshore. The technical problem is in the efficiency rating: no one's figured out how to get good efficiency at all wind speeds. If the wind is blowing at 75kph, we would like to get at least 4x the power than if it's blowing at 15kph. But still max out at 15kph if we can. Now Kathy's got me thinking: what if the solenoid coil was superconducting? The fast-rotating magnetic field would induce an electric current that would not dissipate, because there's zero resistance. Then the wind speed efficiency would be limited only by the kinetic inertia of the electrons themselves. I need to look into that.
 

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We honor God by honoring the things He gave us. He gave us 5 talents, and likewise He gave us the earth. We need to treat it well, so that Jesus comes back and says, "Good! Here's 5 more talents." Is man doing that? Nope. I don't want to have to say that we took His gift and smashed it, trashed it, and destroyed it. The simple, mere fact of mankind coming together and solving a common problem: the earth--instead of fighting each other is inline with Jesus' teachings.

If geothermal energy is your passion, then have at it. Personally I like wind's potential, because of all the energy stored in a hurricane--especially offshore. The technical problem is in the efficiency rating: no one's figured out how to get good efficiency at all wind speeds. If the wind is blowing at 75kph, we would like to get at least 4x the power than if it's blowing at 15kph. But still max out at 15kph if we can. Now Kathy's got me thinking: what if the solenoid coil was superconducting? The fast-rotating magnetic field would induce an electric current that would not dissipate, because there's zero resistance. Then the wind speed efficiency would be limited only by the kinetic inertia of the electrons themselves. I need to look into that.
No metal or substance will have zero resistance .
 

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Niobium has zero resistance when cooled below 4 degrees Kelvin.

Looks like superconducting wind turbines are already happening in Denmark. Fascinating stuff, as recent as November 2019:

We're talking economically viable, out on the North Sea where there are high winds, no eyesore because they're out on the water, no dead birds because it's out on the shelf (and less dead birds on land, too, because the rotors are 3 times smaller).

Anyway, to tie back into End Times: if mankind would simply unify and do this stuff, no Tribulation. Mankind brings it on themselves by refusing to turn from their ways and insisting on fighting each other instead. We COULD do it. We just won't.
 

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Niobium has zero resistance when cooled below 4 degrees Kelvin.

Looks like superconducting wind turbines are already happening in Denmark. Fascinating stuff, as recent as November 2019:

We're talking economically viable, out on the North Sea where there are high winds, no eyesore because they're out on the water, no dead birds because it's out on the shelf (and less dead birds on land, too, because the rotors are 3 times smaller).

Anyway, to tie back into End Times: if mankind would simply unify and do this stuff, no Tribulation. Mankind brings it on themselves by refusing to turn from their ways and insisting on fighting each other instead. We COULD do it. We just won't.
Which takes energy to create that and that is affected by entropy,how many,Kelvin.?
 

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In the article, Denmark is using high temperature superconductors. Those drop to zero resistance at closer to liquid nitrogen temperatures (77 degrees Kelvin), but they are much more complicated copper-based compounds. The magnetic field attached to the rotor can penetrate the vacuum thermal insulator at a perfect magnetic permeability constant of 0.4pi uH/m, so the cryogenics can remain thermally insulated.

The superconductors help solve the reliability problem by improving energy efficiency at a wider range of wind speeds. This is in addition to energy storage and simply having a lot of windmills in different places (it averages out). The guy who won the Nobel in Chemistry this year invented the lithium ion battery, and he recently came up with a better battery which uses the sodium from sea salt instead of lithium. Thus our energy storage is getting better and more economically viable.
 

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In the article, Denmark is using high temperature superconductors. Those drop to zero resistance at closer to liquid nitrogen temperatures (77 degrees Kelvin), but they are much more complicated copper-based compounds. The magnetic field attached to the rotor can penetrate the vacuum thermal insulator at a perfect magnetic permeability constant of 0.4pi uH/m, so the cryogenics can remain thermally insulated.

The superconductors help solve the reliability problem by improving energy efficiency at a wider range of wind speeds. This is in addition to energy storage and simply having a lot of windmills in different places (it averages out). The guy who won the Nobel in Chemistry this year invented the lithium ion battery, and he recently came up with a better battery which uses the sodium from sea salt instead of lithium. Thus our energy storage is getting better and more economically viable.
Lithium,is limited in,very limited in,avibilty.can't just mine it ,you,must sift it out from the,land .

Can't just store power and think,it,will,meet demand if its not,recharged or at peak .
 

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Lithium,is limited in,very limited in,avibilty.can't just mine it ,you,must sift it out from the,land .
Sodium is not. You extract it from seawater. Which is the reason why the Nobel Laureate came up with it.

Can't just store power and think,it,will,meet demand if its not,recharged or at peak .
If we could store the wind power in a hurricane, we could meet North American demand for a year or longer.


However, your website is interesting, and it leads back to End Times: what is your motivation for naysaying everything? Clearly, your website states that you are out to destroy wind power. Meaning you have some motive, and flowing out from that is every argument against it you can think of.

Why? What's the real reason? Because you want the end to come sooner so you can see Jesus?
 

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