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Jacob62

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Avoid subverting this thread by lapsing into comments such as:

"The more we know about God through His Word the better we can love and obey Him!"

"When we read about Jesus we can become more like Him!"

"God's Word brings goodness, faith, and joy!"

The facts are that Scripture is immensely complex, no scholar understands it, obedience to the commands of Jesus are entirely hit and miss, and Jesus repeatedly stated all of His True Followers would be persecuted, harmed, ravaged, and killed as was He. Additionally, no person can actually have the Mind of Christ as He was, only slight bits of His Mind. Paul speaks of literally comprehending the "breadth, length, depth, and height" of Christ's Love, yet of all people I have asked for either a demonstration of just that or a description of it, none have had an answer. Not one.

Scholars and Pulpit Jockeys all work very diligently to keep the essential Gospel out of the reach of regular people. That is why they like to publish and place into curriculums never ending explanations, and like to pontificate never ending sermons using motivational language. All to "teach" us about being saved for Heaven.

Think. Picture Third World Christians living in utter poverty, having no personal Bibles, maybe illiterate, not in much of a functioning church, maybe with an untrained Pastor, ignorant of all the knowledge we take for granted, surviving meal to meal, sad and drained every day with life, persecuted and killed by Muslims, maybe not knowing Jesus said He was with them. Will they still go to Heaven and be rewarded for the shreds of their faith even if they are unable to exegete Biblical Text and expound upon it? Yes, Indeed they will go to Heaven.

What then is the point of any intricate Theological and Doctrinal discussion, Textual exegesis, and deeper discernment? Is any of that necessary?

Here is the answer. The extensive western religious training which God provides to us rich people is a preparation for our horrific judgement just around the corner for being the kind of Believers we are. We are rich people trying to go through the Eye of a Needle. And, Yes, "Eye of a Needle" refers to a very small door impassable to fat people and loaded camels.

Knowledge of Scripture is not an issue of understanding how we are saved, but is all about knowing how as fat, rich people we are to survive tribulation for faith and go through death without renouncing Christ. Skinny people in persecution and poverty have nothing to lose, because they are already as good as dead. Fat, rich people are full of self confidence and their "rights."
 
Jacob62
Hello and welcome. Boy, ain’t you a ray of sunshine!

ive read this post twice now and I’m still a bit confused on exactly what your point is.

can you dumb it down just a bit for me please?

Much thanks in advance.
 
I may be on the hefty side, but I sure am not rich as we live from paycheck to paycheck trying to make ends meet.

Why do we discuss the word of God is because we want to learn more about Him and His love for us as we develop our personal relationship with Him for He is our faith where lays our hope and trust in all things that are possible. The Bible is the teaching of God's redeeming power that whosoever believes in Him and His Son Christ Jesus will have eternal life with Him.

The word of God is easy to understand, but when it becomes indoctrinated with all the various doctrines and theories of what man teaches then it makes it all confusing. That is why we pray and ask the Holy Spirit teach us.

My question to you is why call yourself a Christian and come to a Christian forum if it is not to share and have fellowship with other Christians. I have been watching your comments and the foolish questions you have been asking. I'm beginning to think you joined today as a troll just looking to have yourself a little fun at the expense of others. Please tell me this is not so.
 
Jacob62
Hello and welcome. Boy, ain’t you a ray of sunshine!

ive read this post twice now and I’m still a bit confused on exactly what your point is.

can you dumb it down just a bit for me please?

Much thanks in advance.
Speak to the topic of the Thread, not to me.

Christendom's collective determinations upon Scripture and The Disclosure of Divine imperatives are not unlimited. They are largely now complete. Hence, the Church and world are entering The End Times beyond speculative talk.
 
Such as "I think you are a control freak?"?
You might have some useful insights. I don't know. But your way of going about it is trollish and arrogant. The times I've posted like you, I've regretted it.
None of us fully understand what Jesus meant. That I agree. We are all in this together is my view.i don't think the Bible has all the answers but I certainly admit it has important value.
Read Luke 4:16-30 about what you think is trolling.
 
Jacob62
Hello and welcome. Boy, ain’t you a ray of sunshine!

ive read this post twice now and I’m still a bit confused on exactly what your point is.

can you dumb it down just a bit for me please?

Much thanks in advance.
Godly Leadership looks for joy and gratitude unto The Lord in all matters. All else is mere chaff.
 
Jacob62
Hello and welcome. Boy, ain’t you a ray of sunshine!

ive read this post twice now and I’m still a bit confused on exactly what your point is.

can you dumb it down just a bit for me please?

Much thanks in advance.
Godly Leadership looks for joy and gratitude unto The Lord in all matters. All else is mere chaf
I see. Well I didn't mean to say I so often. I will try in future to eliminate I. I don't want to upset ewe or eye.
Thanks so much for heart felt thoughts.
 
What then is the point of any intricate Theological and Doctrinal discussion, Textual exegesis, and deeper discernment? Is any of that necessary?
It really is only for the Spirit of God to prevail, that it is necessary, and just as Jesus said that "by my word you have been made clean", it is just as vital (if not more), that the Word of God is studied continually as the known best example of Holy Spirit in this day, because it gives insight through conviction as to how we can be improved.

If you think that the whole purpose of Christianity is to save the souls of humans from going to hell when they die, you missed the part of redeeming the creation from sin's assault.

The world that God made was good. It made His heart joyful, and what the world does now is a continual grief to Him. Jesus said that He would give the keys of the kingdom to His disciple who was devout to God, and what of it? "That the gates of hell shall never prevail against you". But while the men were sleeping the enemy crept in and sowed evil seeds among the field. So now we are subjected to futility while waiting for the sons of God to be revealed, and on that day there will be the fulfilment of His purpose in giving up His only-begotten: "that the creation itself will be set free from it's bondage to decay".

But how will he achieve that if everybody is illiterate or ignorant of the scriptures, or possibly even worse, having become stale and full of old wine?
 
It really is only for the Spirit of God to prevail, that it is necessary, and just as Jesus said that "by my word you have been made clean", it is just as vital (if not more), that the Word of God is studied continually as the known best example of Holy Spirit in this day, because it gives insight through conviction as to how we can be improved.

If you think that the whole purpose of Christianity is to save the souls of humans from going to hell when they die, you missed the part of redeeming the creation from sin's assault.

The world that God made was good. It made His heart joyful, and what the world does now is a continual grief to Him. Jesus said that He would give the keys of the kingdom to His disciple who was devout to God, and what of it? "That the gates of hell shall never prevail against you". But while the men were sleeping the enemy crept in and sowed evil seeds among the field. So now we are subjected to futility while waiting for the sons of God to be revealed, and on that day there will be the fulfilment of His purpose in giving up His only-begotten: "that the creation itself will be set free from it's bondage to decay".

But how will he achieve that if everybody is illiterate or ignorant of the scriptures, or possibly even worse, having become stale and full of old wine?
How would this be communicated to a refugee living in the cold and dirt with no hope?
 
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