Is the Mark of the Beast Forgivable?

[precepts]

The question is, is the mark of the Beast forgivable, and if not, does that make it the unpardonable sin against the holy spirit?

 

[guysmith]

Precepts,

You stated: The question is, is the mark of the Beast forgivable, and if not, does that make it the unpardonable sin against the holy spirit?

Revelation 13: 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

My response: I am not sure, however.....

Matthew 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

Guy

 

[precepts]

Atleast we can agree that there's olny one unforgivable sin which is the sin against the holy spirit!

 

[Elijah674]

NO. See Gen. 6:3. Most are already sealing their fate as it is the 'documented' ones of Rev. 17:1-5 who already are mostly being found unmoveable by His trying to LEAD THEM!

It is these Powerless Christ/less ones who will use Caesar's power which is already set up with the 6 of rome, + the two non/Christians on the USA Supreme Court to force mother romes mark of sun worship. And as we see ALL of satan's hell breaking loose and excellerating all over the earth... these professed Christian one's will do anything to STOP THE JUDGEMENTS OF GOD as they are thought to be. (except repent) And their unity is only on one false teaching of rome, yet, fully antichrist! Matt. 6:24. And that is that of sun worship! Eze. 8:15-17 + James 2:8-12.

--Elijah

 

[turnorburn]

There is much to be aired here on that mark, the answer is no. When its issued you won't be able to buy, sell, work, no place to call home.. making it much to be desired, like sin if you will..

turnorburn

 

[precepts]

NO. See Gen. 6:3. Most are already sealing their fate as it is the 'documented' ones of Rev. 17:1-5 who already are mostly being found unmoveable by His trying to LEAD THEM!

It is these Powerless Christ/less ones who will use Caesar's power which is already set up with the 6 of rome, + the two non/Christians on the USA Supreme Court to force mother romes mark of sun worship. And as we see ALL of satan's hell breaking loose and excellerating all over the earth... these professed Christian one's will do anything to STOP THE JUDGEMENTS OF GOD as they are thought to be. (except repent) And their unity is only on one false teaching of rome, yet, fully antichrist! Matt. 6:24. And that is that of sun worship! Eze. 8:15-17 + James 2:8-12.

--Elijah

You're missing the point, there's only one unforgivable sin!

 

[precepts]

There is much to be aired here on that mark, the answer is no. When its issued you won't be able to buy, sell, work, no place to call home.. making it much to be desired, like sin if you will..

turnorburn

There's only one unforgivable sin!

 

[theLords]

The only unforgivable sin (Blasphemy against the Spirit) is for all generations for all times.

The Mark of the Beast is for a specific generation.

It's two different issues. Once the Mark of the Beast is "issued" (or whatever) the world passes from life unto death. There is no repenting or accepting Christ once one is dead. Accepting the Mark of the Beast is the same thing. Those who have it are the living dead. Their fates are sealed and they will not be able to repent or accept Christ once they receive that Mark.

 

[precepts]

The only unforgivable sin (Blasphemy against the Spirit) is for all generations for all times.


The Mark of the Beast is for a specific generation.

You should of been, or maybe you are, a politician. Is the mark of the Beast forgivable?

It's two different issues. Once the Mark of the Beast is "issued" (or whatever) the world passes from life unto death.

Where did you get this information about the world passing on after the mark?

There is no repenting or accepting Christ once one is dead. Accepting the Mark of the Beast is the same thing. Those who have it are the living dead. Their fates are sealed and they will not be able to repent or accept Christ once they receive that Mark.

Good answer.

 

[jasoncran]

because all the vial judments are against those that have the mark alone and no one else.


the demon locuts attack those with the mark of the beast and the book of revalation says in revalation 7 that theses are they that stayed faithful and true during great tribulation and didnt RECIEVE the mark of the beast and washed their robes white with the blood of the lamb

these were seen before the throne.

 

[Elijah674]

The only unforgivable sin (Blasphemy against the Spirit) is for all generations for all times.

The Mark of the Beast is for a specific generation.

It's two different issues. Once the Mark of the Beast is "issued" (or whatever) the world passes from life unto death. There is no repenting or accepting Christ once one is dead. Accepting the Mark of the Beast is the same thing. Those who have it are the living dead. Their fates are sealed and they will not be able to repent or accept Christ once they receive that Mark.

It seems to me that it will be the last MATURE Testing of mankind. Rev. 14:6-10 is to be a worldwide message. Matt. 24:14 is to be this Everlasting Gospel (of Rev. 14:6-10) for perhaps a one year worldwide Satellite UN trial? (USA pushed.. from lamb to dragon/like)

With most of the world making claim to be God servers, this test will be the deciding test as God closes it all down. As the Door of the Ark Closed ending the worlds probation, so this test that has been preached for long past the 120 years in Gen. 6:3 with the Holy Spirit attending the message, has also gone even past that length of time. And the ones of Rev. 17:1-5 will be made known for what they are, without a shadow of a doubt when they & Caesar unite to form the forced mark. God uses NO FORCE for one to worship Him, only satan needs Caesar in a 'c'hristless church. And the USA Supreme court is already set up for this.

And, physical Life or Death? which will one CHOOSE will be the Test? Dan. 3:17-18. And at this present time we are seeing both the Holy Spirits rejection (satans wrath) and the ones who have had no opportunity to know Truth, He is again being showered on. Acts 3:19 finds the 'time of REFRESHING'. See Eccl. 3:15. And Amos 9:13 is already locating these ones from all walks of life!
One might even recall Christ calling James & John, 'The (ex) Sons of Thunder'?

--Elijah

 

[theLords]

You should of been, or maybe you are, a politician. Is the mark of the Beast forgivable?

Your sarcasm is unbecoming of you. :

Were the people of Noah's time forgiven once the door to the ark was shut? Was Noah's generation forgivable?

Where did you get this information about the world passing on after the mark?

It's called an "allegory." Once the door was shut on the people who rejected God's grace during the time of Noah they could no longer repent. They were the "living dead."

Definitions of allegory on the Web:

• fable: a short moral story (often with animal characters)
• emblem: a visible symbol representing an abstract idea
• an expressive style that uses fictional characters and events to describe some subject by suggestive resemblances; an extended metaphor
  wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Once the 3.5 years of peace is up and the Antichrist violates the peace treaty, as Elijah stated above, it will be the time where God is "closing it all down."

 

[theLords]

Obviously, the Mark of the Beast is not forgivable.

Revelation 14:9-12 (KJV)

And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

 

[Nathan]

I think the point, and the truth, is this;

The "mark of the beast" is inseparable from the blasphemy of the Spirit.

Therefore, although they may not seem to be the "same", they are connected to each other and cannot be separated.

What we have done is drawn our conclusions of what the "mark" is going to be.

By taking the "mark", what ever it is, the ones that do will be doing so in FULL KNOWLEDGE that it is against everything the Spirit of God wants.

Its not a little 'slip' up. Its not a 'moment' of sin. It is a issue of the heart, and therefore will demand a choice of one's free will.

That is the issue with the 'unforgivable sin'. The 'unforgivable sin', as we call it, is simply the choice to not want the Spirit of God in one's life. By taking the 'mark' it is the same as not wanting the Spirit of God in your life.

 

[Nathan]

It might help if we keep things in context;

Rev 14:9-13 And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, "If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name."

Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus. And I heard a voice from heaven saying, "Write this: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on." "Blessed indeed," says the Spirit, "that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow them!"

I am not sure, but this is literally in blue and white here. The 'receiving' of the mark is directly associated with torment for EVER and EVER. And if that is not enough, the statement that follows it would hopefully keep things in context.

"Here is a call for the endurance of the saints...Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on"...

So there is a warning, and then there is an admonishment. One to those who would choose disobedience and those who would choose obedience. If you choose to disobey, and take the mark, then you in effect 'seal' the deal. If you choose NOT to take the mark, but rather die (because you will not be able to do much at all without it), then you will be blessed.

Now, if you can point me in the direction where it speaks towards those who have received the mark receiving forgiveness I would be more than happy to discuss it. But I highly doubt the Revelation is going to contradict Himself.

 

[Nathan]

Obviously, the Mark of the Beast is not forgivable.

Revelation 14:9-12 (KJV)

And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

You beat me too it . I was busy writing my own response when you posted yours.

 

[Elijah674]

You're missing the point, there's only one unforgivable sin!

No, to missing the point! and yes to ones full cup of the sin against the Holy Ghost.

When the Latter Rain (Showers of Refreshings Acts 3:19) are again rejected, He (the Holy Ghost) can do no more with any person. His STRIVING IS PAST & He is QUENCHED & GRIEVED AWAY. And these ones are unreachable! They are the ones of Rev. 17:1-5 who will force romes day of the sun for worship, which they mostly all agree on anyway.

The Mark of the Church/Caesar Forced Worship will be made in the Latter Rain time which is at present starting, as satan wrath is also. Joel 2's prophecy & Acts prophecy is again repeated just before Christ return's again to wrape it all up! No spiritual games will be accepted! Acts 5's husband + wife.

And the test Will be the forth 7th Day Sabbath Commandment & death, or sun worship as most already agree with, and the SECOND DEATH assured.
Exod. 16:4 & verse 28 just before entrance of the Land of Canaan. verse 35.

Tested on just the one 7th Day Sabbath to find out if they ALL would be Broken! James 2:8-12 Nahum 1:9

--Elijah

 

[Jake]

The question is, is the mark of the Beast forgivable, and if not, does that make it the unpardonable sin against the holy spirit?

The mark of the beast is the worldly man, the unsaved. They are the ones found outside of Christ, an enemy of God and who have the spirit of the anti-christ.

 

[Ashua]

No, accepting the mark of the beast is as good as signing your own second-death warrant. It is a covenant with the anti-christ.

 

[precepts]

I wonder why everyone seems to be dodging the question. The closest we've come to the truth is that the mark and blaspheme against the spirit is the same. The question remains as to what is blasphemy against the spirit?