The Truth About Mel Gibson's The Passion Of The Christ

[bibleberean]

Mel Gibson portrayed Satan very well?

Have you seen Satan?

Have you heard his voice?

Can you give me a bible version where Satan tempted Christ in Gethsemane?

How do you know the actor did a marvelous job playing Jesus Christ?

You have seen Jesus?

1 Peter 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:

1 Peter 1:8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:

Have you ever heard Christ's voice?

John 7:45 Then came the officers to the chief priests and Pharisees; and they said unto them, Why have ye not brought him?

John 7:46 The officers answered, Never man spake like this man.

If your Catholic friends are going to be with you in heaven why are they in a church that teaches salvation is by faith and works?

Why are they in a church which condemns true Christians to hell?

 

[Refuge]

I believe that the issue is between you and your former church.

I have stated my opinion, as you have, concerning the movie.

 

[bibleberean]

I believe that the issue is between you and your former church.

I have stated my opinion, as you have, concerning the movie.

Not much of an answer, but if that is the best you can do...

 

[Refuge]

Talk about baiting a debate! And, I believe that was a bit condescending of you.

Brother, you have an issue with this movie because you have come out of the Catholic church. I understand.

I honestly do not have the time to debate on this forum.

I have shared my view of the movie. You have your opinion and I have mine. I honor your perspective and I ask that you honor mine.

 

[Refuge]

Mel Gibson portrayed Satan very well? Yes, he did! The personification of evil was well done, indeed!

Have you seen Satan? not exactly! but, some of his friends.....

Have you heard his voice? not exactly, but some of his friends....

Can you give me a bible version where Satan tempted Christ in Gethsemane? You want to bait me into the KJV Only Debate. I know the info and I don't condemn others for their version choice. However, back to the point. There is no scripture reference that satan 'tempted' Jesus in the Gethsemane. So.....

How do you know the actor did a marvelous job playing Jesus Christ? My opinion! My perspective!

You have seen Jesus? No

1 Peter 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:

1 Peter 1:8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:

Have you ever heard Christ's voice? Yes. 'My sheep hear My Voice.......'

John 7:45 Then came the officers to the chief priests and Pharisees; and they said unto them, Why have ye not brought him?

John 7:46 The officers answered, Never man spake like this man.

If your Catholic friends are going to be with you in heaven why are they in a church that teaches salvation is by faith and works? They may have family that they attend with. Many Catholics are Italian, Hispanic etc and it is a part of their culture and heritage. I have met several Catholics that have accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. I married one!

Why are they in a church which condemns true Christians to hell?

Do you condemn Catholics?

 

[bibleberean]

You have not heard the audible voice of Jesus.

You have never seen him that is my point.

I don't condemn Catholics.

I agree with Charles Spurgeon.

It is the bounden duty of every Christian to pray against Antichrist, and as to what Antichrist is no sane man ought to raise a question. If it be not the Popery in the Church of Rome there is nothing in the world that can be called by that name. It wounds Christ, robs Christ of His glory, puts sacramental efficacy in the place of His atonement, and lifts a piece of bread in the place of the Saviour....If we pray against it, because it is against Him, we shall love the persons though we hate their errors; we shall love their souls, though we loathe and detest their dogmas...."
C. H Spurgeon (All Roads Lead To Rome, Dorcheste House, 1991, pg. 183).

The movie followed the unbiblical stations of the cross.

Terry Watkins "Poison in the Passion"

Here are the 14 Catholic “Stations of the Crossâ€Â. Notice “stations†3, 4, 6, 7, and 9 are not in the Bible. All 14 are unmistakably in Gibson’s The Passion.
Jesus is condemned Luke 23:24
Jesus carries his cross John 19:17

Jesus falls the first time NOT IN THE BIBLE

Jesus meets his mother NOT IN THE BIBLE

Simon of Cyrene helps carry the cross Matthew 27:32

Veronica wipes Jesus’ face NOT IN THE BIBLE

Jesus falls a second time NOT IN THE BIBLE

Jesus meets the women of Jerusalem Luke 23:27-31

Jesus falls the third time NOT IN THE BIBLE

Jesus is stripped of his garments John 19:23

Jesus is nailed to the cross Mark 15:24

Jesus dies on the cross Mark 15:37

His body is taken down from the cross Luke 23:53

His body is laid in the tomb Matthew 27:60

Unbiblical things in the movie:

Satan is shown talking to Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane.

Satan is a beautiful woman.

Jesus stomps a snake in the Garden that slithers from Satan’s cloke.

In the Garden of Gethsemene, a guard punches, kicks and slaps Jesus.

After Judas betrays Jesus, Judas is attacked by children whose faces morph into demons.

The demon-children bite Judas.

After viewing Jesus’s bloody body, Pilate asks the Sanhedrin if they always beat prisoners prior to trial.

Pilate discusses with his wife his relationship with Tiberius Ceasar, emphasizing orders Ceasar gave him to avoid uprisings in Judea. No such discussion is found in the Gospels.

Jesus falls three times while carrying the cross

Once when Jesus falls, Mary runs to Him, and He says, "See, mother, I make all things new."

Mary later asks Jesus, "When, how, where, will you choose to be delivered from this?"

Pilate’s wife brings linens to Jesus’ mother and Mary Magdalene so that they can wipe up his blood

A woman who is the Catholic Saint Veronica gives Jesus a cloth to wipe his face

Jesus’ cross levitates.

(The Passion of the Christ, Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, and other sources)
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Passion_of_the_Christ#Details_in_the_film_not_present_in_the_Gospels>

 

[willow the wip]

satan was never dipicted as a female.

and to thing you will have the catholic church teach you the bible you might as well pray to mary.

 

[Refuge]

It's still a great movie!

 

[willow the wip]

some say that was the exosist, the best film they had ever seen so what.

even hellraser to others.

 

[bibleberean]

It's still a great movie!

Not according to God and His word.

 

[Refuge]

Brother,

You may need to consider how you treat people.............

 

[willow the wip]

im just making a point that you cant base fact on hollywood nothing that you see on the cinima is fit for any christian you tell me one film that is fit for a christian 98% of films relessed on the cinema is unsuitable..

If you want to follow a false Gospil thats your choice, not myne.

 

[Refuge]

I simply watched the movie and enjoyed it! Now, I am 'following a false Gospel'? You aren't going to put that on me!

Your reasoning skills on this matter may need an adjustment.

 

[bibleberean]

The bible never gives a single description of what Jesus Christ looked like.

A movie could not accurately portray the suffering Christ endured for us.

Looking at a picture of the face of the actor who people mistakenly believe did a great job of playing Christ is easily recognizable. When the actor is pretending to die on the cross you know exactly who he is. His face is not disfigured.

Compare that with the bibles description.

Isaiah 52:14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men:

Placing a false image of Christ into our minds and hearts is forbidden by God.

A false image is another Jesus.

Placing words in the mouth of our Lord that He never spoke is the one of the worst sins a person can commit.

2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

2 Corinthians 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

Evil, evil, evil.

The movie promotes Roman Catholic fables.

2 Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

These imposters are wiping up the blood of Gibson's false Christ.

This scene is not in the bible. It is the vision from Roman Catholic nun Anne Catherine Emmerich.

Quote:

When Jesus fell down at the foot of the pillar, after the flagellation, I saw Claudia Procles, the wife of Pilate, send some large pieces of linen to the Mother of God. I know not whether she thought that Jesus would be set free, and that his Mother would then require linen to dress his wounds, or whether this compassionate lady was aware of the use which would be made of her present. … I soon after saw Mary and Magdalen approach the pillar where Jesus had been scourged; … they knelt down on the ground near the pillar, and wiped up the sacred blood with the linen which Claudia Procles had sent.
(Emmerich, Anne Catherine. The Dolorous Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ. North Bay Books:El Sobrante, 2003 pp. 137-138)

http://www.av1611.org/Passion/passion.html

 

[Refuge]

I suspect that I am speaking to Borg :robot:

 

[willow the wip]

I did not imply that you are following a false gospile I said that is Your choice if you want to fallow a false gosple I personally would never say that the film teaches a true Biblical prospective.

I personally would never recomend the X-rated film to any one I would not even show children as some has aready exposed them to this violence.

 

[bibleberean]

http://www.av1611.org/Passion/passion.html

The man who made the movie. Mel Gibson has another Jesus and another way of salvation.

There is no question that The Passion is an openly Catholic originated, inspired and produced movie. Mel Gibson has held back nothing, confessing his complete devotion to his Catholic faith. In an interview with the Australian paper, The Herald Sun, Mel proudly admits "There is no salvation for those outside the [Catholic] Church.

"There is no salvation for those outside the Church, I believe it."
Mel Gibson, The Herald Sun
Gibson goes on to calmly condemn his own wife to hell. Mel readily admits that she "believes in God" and "she knows Jesus" – but that is not enough. According to Gibson’s own words, "knowing Jesus" will not save a person. Mel Gibson clearly believes "There is no salvation for those outside the Catholic Church."

"Put it this way. My wife is a saint. She’s a much better person than I am. Honestly, She’s, like, Episcopalian, Church of England. She prays, she believes in God, she knows Jesus, she believes in that stuff. And it’s just not fair if she doesn’t make it, she’s better than I am. But that is a pronouncement from the chair. I go with it."Mel Gibson, The Herald Sun


The "pronouncement from the chair" Gibson is referring to is the pronouncement by the Pope, which to Catholics, is literally the voice of God and infallible. The "chair" has more authority than the Bible.

 

[Refuge]

:robot: resistance is futile :robot:

 

[willow the wip]

bibleberean i like your articles their real good.

 

[bibleberean]

bibleberean i like your articles their real good.

Thank you.